For me, the PAC 12 Network was fantastic for watching baseball. I was able to follow closely this year’s Cal surge late in the season, ushered collectively by commentators Bernstein, Darby and Ross. I will never forget Roxy’s call of a Smaldino homer, Darby’s inside scoop on Cal’s pitchers’ development and the multiple walk-off victories that brought the Bears to the point of deserving inclusion in this year’s NCAA Tournament. Aside from the horrible rift with AT&T, I thought access to the network was fine. I never had any difficulty getting PAC 12 Network games via Sling. I don’t expect to receive anything like the Bay Area flavor of PAC 12 Network Bay Area ever again during the ACC stint. As far as I know, ACCN will not have a Bay Area dedicated channel like I’ve enjoyed for the past twelve years; instead I’ll forage for games on ACCN+/ESPN+ and old reruns on YouTube. But the network of the Atlantic Coast is just that. Also, no longer will I hear the uplifting voice of Yogi Roth on all things west coast football. That makes me sad. Goodbye to all the hardworking team of P12N. I will miss your product dearly.
Too much to say, too much to say, too much to say. I will only actually say that including SMU in this same breath as Cal and Stanford with anything resembling the phrase of "world class institutions" is deeply wrong.
I've moved off of cable and on to streaming TV, but I wonder if those in the Bay Area still using cable are able to get ACC Network on the standard tier now? Or maybe it will have to wait until August?
I think there is a fairly midrange plan on most cable providers that includes it. The problem is many of Cal’s games (especially outside of football) I’m anticipating will be limited to ESPN+ or ACCN+, and those don’t come without an additional cost. ESPN basically has us by the …..
1. If you are already paying for ACC Network (through any provider), then you have access to ACC Network Extra when you log in to the ESPN app/site. You don't have to separately purchase ESPN+.
2. If we're talking about football, I don't think many games will be on ACCNx. The UC Davis game, sure. MAYBE one other, but most likely they are all on regular ACC Network, at minimum. ESPN has a lot of networks and a lot of time slots to fill with college football. During the regular season when we're not playing patsies they'll likely have a place for our game. Historically, ACC teams have rarely had more than one football game pushed to streaming-only.
For other sports, sure. Though if we're talking about men's basketball then again most likely only the early season games against mid-majors will be stuck on ACCNx. Once the conference season starts the games all tend to be picked up by the linear channels.
The original Pacific Coast Conference represented a time when college athletics grew out of class competitions. At Cal, the Associated Students assumed control of student activities, and until 1960, athletics at the Berkeley campus was managed by the ASUC. At that time, the campus negotiated to assume control of athletics in the belief that the complexity of television was beyond the abilities of students to address. In the exchange, the students relinquished Memorial Stadium, Edwards Track, Clint Evans Diamond, the student portion of Harmon Gym, Stephen's Union and the original Eshleman Hall [Now Moses Hall] in exchange for permission to build on Union Field and land acquired through eminent domain where MLK, Jr. Union and Caesar Chavez now occupy for the construction of a new student union complex, including Zellerbach and the Playhouse. Since that deal was struck, Cal has not been to the Rose Bowl, the national basketball championship, or the national baseball title. We can only hope that becoming part of a distant conference but retaining our connection to Stanford, will begin a new and better era.
Thanks for the informative history. BTW, Moses Hall (where I spent much time in the eighties, as a philosophy major) is now called Philosophy Hall, as Bernard Moses was found to have been a racist.
Performance is tied directly to who is coaching. Pete Newell would be leading the Bears to the Final Four consistently in 2024ff. Pete Elliott would have the Bears in the CFP year after year. Any college team loses with the wrong coaches, wins with the best ones.
Overcome, adapt and improvise. The best coaches win in any circumstances, using whatever resources they have.
Pete Newell was Athleic Director from 1961 to 1968, and hired all our coaches. He was a great coach, but apparently not as effective as an administrator. Cal only went to the Rose Bowl in 1959 because of suspensions against three other conference teams, where Iowa and Bob Jeter crushed us. The students fired Elliott.
I'm looking forward to Coach K commenting on Cal basketball during a telecast. I'm especially grateful that our athletes will get to show their stuff against the ACC schools. I think the ACC showed how advanced they are by taking along furd, sort of like helping a helpless & infirm charity case.
The ACC is demonstrating to the yahoo's in the SEC how to increase the average GPA of the conference in one fell swoop. (On the other hand, attending classes has never been something SEC schools have bothered with, so there's that.)
Losing the Pac-12 is another reminder that you can't take anything for granted, but I guess I've already moved on. Silver lining in all of this is that it may have woken up our administration and the Regents, which doubtfully would have happened without the humiliation of our 100-year old conference crumbling and our need to beg for a life raft.
Entering the ACC will be an incredibly positive change for the University and for Cal athletics. For forty years I’ve seen the demonization of our school and, with rare exceptions, a major sports program that in no way reflects the standards of Berkeley. The national exposure of this great school is just what it needs. It will be great for our image and for our athletics.
Agreed. While it is sad and unnecessary that the Pac 12 is no more this will be a breath of fresh air. The opportunity is there to make a national statement to the East coast media which really has never given Cal the time of day.
I'm feeling: resigned.still working on acceptance.
I’m feeling angst and optimism, at the sane time.
For me, the PAC 12 Network was fantastic for watching baseball. I was able to follow closely this year’s Cal surge late in the season, ushered collectively by commentators Bernstein, Darby and Ross. I will never forget Roxy’s call of a Smaldino homer, Darby’s inside scoop on Cal’s pitchers’ development and the multiple walk-off victories that brought the Bears to the point of deserving inclusion in this year’s NCAA Tournament. Aside from the horrible rift with AT&T, I thought access to the network was fine. I never had any difficulty getting PAC 12 Network games via Sling. I don’t expect to receive anything like the Bay Area flavor of PAC 12 Network Bay Area ever again during the ACC stint. As far as I know, ACCN will not have a Bay Area dedicated channel like I’ve enjoyed for the past twelve years; instead I’ll forage for games on ACCN+/ESPN+ and old reruns on YouTube. But the network of the Atlantic Coast is just that. Also, no longer will I hear the uplifting voice of Yogi Roth on all things west coast football. That makes me sad. Goodbye to all the hardworking team of P12N. I will miss your product dearly.
Too much to say, too much to say, too much to say. I will only actually say that including SMU in this same breath as Cal and Stanford with anything resembling the phrase of "world class institutions" is deeply wrong.
I've moved off of cable and on to streaming TV, but I wonder if those in the Bay Area still using cable are able to get ACC Network on the standard tier now? Or maybe it will have to wait until August?
I think there is a fairly midrange plan on most cable providers that includes it. The problem is many of Cal’s games (especially outside of football) I’m anticipating will be limited to ESPN+ or ACCN+, and those don’t come without an additional cost. ESPN basically has us by the …..
That's not really true.
1. If you are already paying for ACC Network (through any provider), then you have access to ACC Network Extra when you log in to the ESPN app/site. You don't have to separately purchase ESPN+.
2. If we're talking about football, I don't think many games will be on ACCNx. The UC Davis game, sure. MAYBE one other, but most likely they are all on regular ACC Network, at minimum. ESPN has a lot of networks and a lot of time slots to fill with college football. During the regular season when we're not playing patsies they'll likely have a place for our game. Historically, ACC teams have rarely had more than one football game pushed to streaming-only.
For other sports, sure. Though if we're talking about men's basketball then again most likely only the early season games against mid-majors will be stuck on ACCNx. Once the conference season starts the games all tend to be picked up by the linear channels.
F-ing UCLA/USC…..
The original Pacific Coast Conference represented a time when college athletics grew out of class competitions. At Cal, the Associated Students assumed control of student activities, and until 1960, athletics at the Berkeley campus was managed by the ASUC. At that time, the campus negotiated to assume control of athletics in the belief that the complexity of television was beyond the abilities of students to address. In the exchange, the students relinquished Memorial Stadium, Edwards Track, Clint Evans Diamond, the student portion of Harmon Gym, Stephen's Union and the original Eshleman Hall [Now Moses Hall] in exchange for permission to build on Union Field and land acquired through eminent domain where MLK, Jr. Union and Caesar Chavez now occupy for the construction of a new student union complex, including Zellerbach and the Playhouse. Since that deal was struck, Cal has not been to the Rose Bowl, the national basketball championship, or the national baseball title. We can only hope that becoming part of a distant conference but retaining our connection to Stanford, will begin a new and better era.
Thanks for the informative history. BTW, Moses Hall (where I spent much time in the eighties, as a philosophy major) is now called Philosophy Hall, as Bernard Moses was found to have been a racist.
For me, judging the past by the present is ahistorical. still Moses Hall to me. Thanks for your comment.
Performance is tied directly to who is coaching. Pete Newell would be leading the Bears to the Final Four consistently in 2024ff. Pete Elliott would have the Bears in the CFP year after year. Any college team loses with the wrong coaches, wins with the best ones.
Overcome, adapt and improvise. The best coaches win in any circumstances, using whatever resources they have.
Pete Newell was Athleic Director from 1961 to 1968, and hired all our coaches. He was a great coach, but apparently not as effective as an administrator. Cal only went to the Rose Bowl in 1959 because of suspensions against three other conference teams, where Iowa and Bob Jeter crushed us. The students fired Elliott.
I'm looking forward to Coach K commenting on Cal basketball during a telecast. I'm especially grateful that our athletes will get to show their stuff against the ACC schools. I think the ACC showed how advanced they are by taking along furd, sort of like helping a helpless & infirm charity case.
The ACC is demonstrating to the yahoo's in the SEC how to increase the average GPA of the conference in one fell swoop. (On the other hand, attending classes has never been something SEC schools have bothered with, so there's that.)
So I sought tech support via the PAC 12 app:
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Clifford Fewel, Jul 1, 2024, 9:37 AM PDT:
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Yeah, uh, my Pac-12 Conference seems to have been deleted. Can you please restore?
Thanks,
Cliff
Great to compete in the East (exposure) but looking forward to the new new realignment on the West Coast within the next five years.
The Pac is dead. Long live the Ack. 😁
Thanks Carol, thanks Jim
I see what you did there.
Good-bye Carol, good-bye Jim. Hello Rich Lyons!!!!
Losing the Pac-12 is another reminder that you can't take anything for granted, but I guess I've already moved on. Silver lining in all of this is that it may have woken up our administration and the Regents, which doubtfully would have happened without the humiliation of our 100-year old conference crumbling and our need to beg for a life raft.
Yeah, and apparently it’s awakened them to the urgent need to install a “B” as the university’s new logo.
No point feeling depressed for something done and dusted. Need to keep our eyes forward and chains moving as the landscape changes before us.
Entering the ACC will be an incredibly positive change for the University and for Cal athletics. For forty years I’ve seen the demonization of our school and, with rare exceptions, a major sports program that in no way reflects the standards of Berkeley. The national exposure of this great school is just what it needs. It will be great for our image and for our athletics.
Agreed. While it is sad and unnecessary that the Pac 12 is no more this will be a breath of fresh air. The opportunity is there to make a national statement to the East coast media which really has never given Cal the time of day.
"Resigned to fate" is how I'm feeling. But we're surviving and maybe even doing a little thriving. The only direction that matters is forward.
Yup. It sucks that the Pac-12 fell apart. But the ACC seems like the best outcome out of several bad ones (for now).