Welcome to the DBD, a W4C community board where one can talk about pretty much anything… like, vents, dust, a kick-ass taco, New Years Eve, frogs, and the last time you danced when not at home.
There's this blueberry bread I found once back when I was a drinker that was delicious...it almost had a frosting on the crust....damn, forget the name, or where I got it...it was in North County San Diego, though!
it's 29 degrees and a very fun thing i discovered getting back to reno was that my furnace's inducer motor is shot and so i am layered in my house until i can get someone out to fix it
Oski came up to me as the band was playing at the Axe rally two days after the Big Game and stated dancing. I had no choice but to dance with him. Lot of eyes were on me. Weird, but fun.
I also ate tacos with W4C. I realized that afternoon that I had read 100 books in 2022, so I debated whether to read another one, since I had time, or keep the nice round number. My friends convinced me to read another one, but I didn't finish it until 12:30, so it was my bridge to 2023.
The book was Paris Daillencourt is About to Crumble by Alexis Hall. It's set in a GBBO-like baking competition, and is a follow-up to Rosaline Palmer Takes the Cake. I enjoyed the first one more, but both were fun.
No 1 gave me a book by Hua Hsu called Stay True. I haven't read it yet but he said that it's a memoir and the kid goes to Cal and mentions lots of Berkeley things. We were driving somewhere in Berkeley and he and his GF happened to see a restaurant that was mentioned in the book. I think it was a chinese Restaurant on Shattuck when we were on our way to Top Dog at midnight after I picked them up from the airport.
TBB you might not have noticed that I wondered elsewhere if you've read Foul Lady Fortune or other books by Chloe Gong? Seem to have a lot of Taiwan/Chinese politics.
Not sure yet. My cousin gave one to me by mistake, intending to give me a Celeste Ng novel. Foul Lady Fortune is supposedly a romance novel in 1920s China, with major elements of spies for the Koumintang. I'm about 100 pages in and have encountered violence but not romance.
i failed my reading challenge of 24 books. i think i got to 15 in a generally down year for reading. but one of my excuses is that i started and did not finish multiple long books ...
Was in bed by 10...awakened at midnight to fireworks and the 2 year old Brittany barking, as the Westside in Santa Barbara LOVES their damn fireworks... 4th of July, Cinco de Mayo, and New Year's Eve and the surrounding days...like clockwork. Dogs hate them.
I went to the one off Pacific Beach about 5 years ago. Was amazingly good. Bought 3 or 4 and sat on the beach eating them during the sunset. Closed my eyes for a few seconds and woke up to a seagull trying to take the bag with my last one.
Also have been to The Taco Stand in La Jolla and Blue Water. When I have a business trip to SD I try to have fish tacos every night.
The Taco Stand is also very good, I usually go to the one in La Jolla. I think Oscars is a bit better in terms of tacos and other menu item offerings. I take all my Cal friends to Oscars when they are in town and they all love it
Otavio brought Nick, Amber and myself to Tacos Y Birria La Unica in LA when we were down there for the USC game/Disneyland trip and it was the best taco I've eaten.
Dia de Pesca in San Jose for excellent fish tacos. Used to just be a taco truck with seats outside, but it's grown a bit and offers lots of great Mexican seafood dishes, but the tacos are really first rate.
Your favorite film of 2022? My top ten: 1) Aftersun 2) Babylon 3) Eo 4) Decision to Leave 5) Tar 6) Banshees of Inisherin 7) Petite Maman 8) Emily the Criminal 9 All Quiet on the Western Front 10) The Eternal Daughter
OOOooOOOooo - no internet or working Cable, we watched the first 2 episodes of Friday Night Lights - such a great show, had never ever watched since it aired on TV (2006 I think)
Also: we are kinda weird, we have TONS of DVD's or Blu-Rays of various TV shows and have maybe watched 5-10% max. Weird.
One of the best TV shows I've seen. Up there with The Wire.
I'd highly recommend watching the entire series. One of the seasons, either 2 or 3, isn't as good but power through it. The remaining seasons make it worth it.
Oh...i misread that you said you hadn't watched it since it aired. Thought you said you hadn't watched it. The Matt Saracen Everybody Leaves Me scene in Season 2 was one of the best.
House Speakership vote is today. McCarthy doesn't seem to have enough votes as the so-called Freedom Caucus opposes him. The House will vote repeatedly until they have a winner, but they can adopt a vote to change the voting rules to elect via plurality or ranked choice.
Of the 19 GOPers who voted for someone other than McCarthy on the first ballot, at least 18 have now voted for Jim Jordan. Jordan himself voted for McCarthy. I seem to have missed the vote of Andy Ogles (TN-5); it may have been McCarthy or it was not announced.
It appears that McCarthy's opposition has coalesced around Jim Jordan. Matt Gaetz suggests that the right person for the job maybe someone who doesn't want it badly (contrast with McCarthy), implying Jim Jordan is the GOP alternate.
Nineteen GOP members voted for someone other than McCarthy, as per WaPo. Which means McCarthy had 203 votes, 15 short of majority. No wonder Hakeem Jeffries won the plurality. I'm sure he got 212.
The vote for Speaker is a roll call vote. And, as you've probably noticed, in alphabetical order. I'm not 100% sure, but it seems to me that at least 10 GOP voted for someone other than McCarthy. If so, that means he's 6 short of majority (he has no more than 212, he needs 218). It was reported that Hakeem Jeffries got a plurality on the first ballot, but not a majority.
They could adopt a rule change to declare a winner by plurality. It would be to the Democrats' advantage to vote against such a rule change, though. This is the GOP's leadership problem, not the Democrats'. Let the GOP solve their own problems.
Which means that it puts passage of such a proposal back in the GOP caucus, thus making it a point of negotiation (or not) between the Freedom Caucus and the rest of the GOP.
not that this is a new development .. but W's have best home record and WORST road record of any team in the league. the road record is even worse than the the worst teams in the league which is sort of amazing that they are in line to make the playoffs ..
They decided not to play defense in the 3rd. Battled back to win the game. DDV with the game tying 3 with no time left in regulation. :18 on the video.
Buffalo/Cincy game suspended after Bill rookie Damar Hamlin suffered cardiac arrest on the field. It was a chilling scene. Dead silent with players gathered around him while medics performed CPR on Hamlin for 9 minutes in the middle of the field.
The response to Hamlin being down was sometimes shocking. TV broadcaster were saying that the NFL sideline crew told the teams they had 5 minutes to warm up before starting up the game again. The Coaches met with officials and mutually/correctly agreed to suspend the game. Then the NFL goes into crisis mode denying they ever would suggest such a thing. And there were a few sports commentators who were wondering why the game shouldn't go on. And then there were an upsetting amount of people on social media out there who somehow linked vaccines and Biden to the event.
SGBear, you are sadly accurate in your observations.
Here's one of the nicer comments on Buffalorumblings:
"I'm a Bengals fan, section 146 row 2 seats 7 and 8, I was there, Stadium was silent, after Damar left in the ambulance the Bills went back out on defense and stood there waiting to resume play, the Bengals offense refused to go out on the field, watched the game once I got home because I taped them all and watch them afterwards, I was surprised not to see this in the taping and more surprised nothing was mentioned about it, anyway their refusal to play made me even more proud of my team. I will end this by saying there were 4 Bills fans in the row directly behind me from West Virginia. During the time the game was suspended until postponed me, my son and 3 other Bengals fans from our row held hands with those 4 Bills fans and prayed for Hamlin"
This is a thing where I'm waiting for more information to come out before rendering judgment. It could be that the officials on the field were just trying to follow normal procedure for an injury (even a major one where someone needs to be taken off on a stretcher) and didn't entirely know what was going on. It doesn't seem like anybody fought very hard to restart the game once the coaches/players came together and asked to postpone.
It could also be a prime example of the NFL being a callous and cruel organization! I just can't be sure yet.
Unless they have been or are in the middle of an evolving incident, it can be hard to appreciate how chaotic information flow can be. Everyone is either fully engrossed in dealing with it, or on the perimeter trying to contribute to or manage the event. Communications should be better (though that often contributes to the infuriating delays), but decades of experience has reinforced the point that its easier said than done.
In my decades of emergency response experience, the post-incident debrief invariably begins with "Communications were an issue".
It shouldn't be, but I'd still rather see the focus on his treatment, and hopefully recovery, and not get sidetracked over a few moments of unclear communications that pretty promptly got sorted out.
This was mis-understood and overblown. The operating procedures provide for a minimum time to warm up and get reorganized after any interruption of more than a brief amount, whatever the reason, vs just immediately resuming. It was essentially a "reminder" before the full magnitude of the situation had reached everyone, and it became apparent the circumstances warranted something more.
Reminder my ass. I call BS. I don't care what the operating procedures are.
Anyone paying attention at home via the broadcast understood the magnitude of the situation well before that silly 5-minute warm up period was announced. You can't just ask the players to flip a switch.
Hopefully Hamlin will be able to walk out of the hospital without any lasting damage. His youth, health, rapid treatment (CPR, AED, and whatever else the paramedics administered), and improved post-arrest protocols (at University of Cincinnati, a good medical center) are all on his side. Hope we get word that he's been extubated sometime later today (depending on UC's post-arrest protocol) and that all news coming out will be positive.
I'm glad the game was stopped. I'm not sure where the "take 5 minutes" word came from since no one wants to claim that idiocy but I'm very happy the game was suspended. In another era, the show would have gone on and that thankfully didn't happen this time.
USC is leading Tulane by 15 with 4.5 minutes to go. The Trojans offense, defense, and special teams all get together to pull off the nearly impossible and somehow lose 46-45 to Tulane in the Cotton Bowl.
USC and Arkansas gagging their games cost me a win in the Bowl Pool Newellbany and I do with our buddy.
Arkansas ended up winning but not covering, despite blowing the onside kick in embarrassing fashion...SC just gagged it...that Mario Williams muffed kickoff literally cost them the W.
The Trojans defense was leaky especially late in the season. IIRC Cal almost pulled out a Tulane like victory by dominating in the fourth quarter. Unfortunately we lacked the mojo of Tulane and couldn't get over the hump. I'm sure their coach will get a lot of credit for going 12-2 after a 2-10 season last year. He may become a hot commodity, but he is not particularly young.
Also, don't know why the Trojans ran slow developing running plays when they were backed up against the goal line. Austin Jones (Furd transfer) was tackled two yards deep in the end zone for a safety right after the SC kick returner fumbled a kick off out of bounds at the one yard line. A confluence of bonehead plays killed them. At this point the Big 10 is getting two teams that both blew leads in their respective bowl games.
I think there's a whole sequence of stupid things that went down - dicking around trying to kill clock at 42-30 and ending up scoring a field goal rather than another TD, the kickoff mistake, letting Tulane score on 2 plays, the safety... even though the defense was as porous as usual, the collapse was a full team effort. Still, if they had to do it, I'd rather it was against someone like Tulane.
All that talking by Utah about how they weren't respected despite beating SC twice and they don't even have the decency to lose to Penn State in an interesting fashion.
unfortuntately there isn't a regular women's basketball writer - but there will be regular women's coverage, but not game to game recaps. think of it more as bi-weekly check-ins and some broader discussion of how the team is doing.
Breakfast bread
English Muffin I'd say.
A good one is best for breakfast sandwiches
HK Style French Toast - basically a peanut butter sandwich, egg washed, deep fried in a wok then served with golden syrup and a generous pat of butter
Surprised that none of the following were included on the poll list -
Bagel
English Muffin
Toast
Bagel for me! Sesame is my fave.
Boichick sesame with Lox is the best.
Have you tried Beauty's yet?
Not yet. next time I'm out that way.
Meetup!!!
Mostly only sweet options. I would have voted bagel.
Everyone who voted waffle is wrong
i like the thin Norwegian wafels a lot. great all-day snack w/ a little jam.
None.
Yes.
There's this blueberry bread I found once back when I was a drinker that was delicious...it almost had a frosting on the crust....damn, forget the name, or where I got it...it was in North County San Diego, though!
Damn that was good.
Sounds like Greenlee's? https://www.greenleesbakerysj.com/store/
THAT’S IT!! Thank you Scootie!!!
I remembered the name was something like that but couldn’t place it!! It was delicious!!
I'll take all of them AND punch Twist, thanks.
Punch twist, or give him FOMO .. . which hurts him more?
This time, Twist hurt us by blessing the rains down in Fruitvale.
Twist's revenge!
Bastard
Slice of my sourdough with half butter half PBJ.
A good loaf of sourdough will not last two days in my house. Salted butter and toasted sourdough is my favorite snack
i put butter and a twist of fresh black pepper on my sourdough.
Weather
Unusually warm and dry. It'll be close to 70 degrees. And I'm staying indoors because I caught some sort of flu from my kid. :(
Europe is experiencing a relative heat wave.
https://twitter.com/US_Stormwatch/status/1609829457292066818
What's up, Dock?
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/video-dock-swept-away-in-raging-hayward-river/
Will this atmospheric river last as long as the great flood of 1863?!?!
it's 29 degrees and a very fun thing i discovered getting back to reno was that my furnace's inducer motor is shot and so i am layered in my house until i can get someone out to fix it
Yikes, sounds colder than the former Mrs. Chitwood’s heart…
Redwood Rd washes out in Castro Valley
https://twitter.com/alcofirefighter/status/1609376718195941376?s=20&t=66gEA20nJEAUqrLeMDFATw
WOW! It has been raining a lot.
oh wow. Guess I won't be taking Redwood Rd to Castro Valley in the near future.
We are getting some much needed rain here in San Diego. It is great to finally have some cold and wintery weather.
Santa Barbara has been a mess. Much needed of course, but man, looks like a hurricane rolled through.
It overcast and ugly out, but it's in the low 60s so was able to get my exercise in wearing t-shirt and shorts. Not bad for January.
rain is melting all the snow in VT and messing up my MLK weekend skiing plans.
i think we will go anyways and do some XC skiing
Last time dancing
Oski came up to me as the band was playing at the Axe rally two days after the Big Game and stated dancing. I had no choice but to dance with him. Lot of eyes were on me. Weird, but fun.
As a disciple, that must have been a monumental experience in the moment!
Yep
How long?
30 seconds, maybe.
Frogs
Legs….
They were a basket ingredient on a recent episode of Chopped! I watched…I’ve never had ‘em.
NYE
Ate tacos with write for california in Oakland. Watched the women lose a close game vs #18 Arizona. Got home by 10pm and was in bed by 10:30pm
I also ate tacos with W4C. I realized that afternoon that I had read 100 books in 2022, so I debated whether to read another one, since I had time, or keep the nice round number. My friends convinced me to read another one, but I didn't finish it until 12:30, so it was my bridge to 2023.
The book was Paris Daillencourt is About to Crumble by Alexis Hall. It's set in a GBBO-like baking competition, and is a follow-up to Rosaline Palmer Takes the Cake. I enjoyed the first one more, but both were fun.
No 1 gave me a book by Hua Hsu called Stay True. I haven't read it yet but he said that it's a memoir and the kid goes to Cal and mentions lots of Berkeley things. We were driving somewhere in Berkeley and he and his GF happened to see a restaurant that was mentioned in the book. I think it was a chinese Restaurant on Shattuck when we were on our way to Top Dog at midnight after I picked them up from the airport.
I love seeing places I recognize in books! It's one of the reasons I love Kerry Winfrey's books set in Columbus.
TBB you might not have noticed that I wondered elsewhere if you've read Foul Lady Fortune or other books by Chloe Gong? Seem to have a lot of Taiwan/Chinese politics.
Ah yes, I missed it, so thanks for asking again. I haven't, but I'll look into them. Do you recommend them?
Not sure yet. My cousin gave one to me by mistake, intending to give me a Celeste Ng novel. Foul Lady Fortune is supposedly a romance novel in 1920s China, with major elements of spies for the Koumintang. I'm about 100 pages in and have encountered violence but not romance.
"violence but not romance" 😭
i failed my reading challenge of 24 books. i think i got to 15 in a generally down year for reading. but one of my excuses is that i started and did not finish multiple long books ...
Was in bed by 10...awakened at midnight to fireworks and the 2 year old Brittany barking, as the Westside in Santa Barbara LOVES their damn fireworks... 4th of July, Cinco de Mayo, and New Year's Eve and the surrounding days...like clockwork. Dogs hate them.
I fell asleep at 8.
Went to a friends house to celebrate.
wife got coronavirus (she is fine) so we stayed home and slept in different rooms by 1000p.
A kick-ass taco
Tacos El Gordo - Las Vegas. A proper taqueria Mexicana right off the north end of the strip.
They have three locations in San Diego.
None better than the ones my wife makes.
They are all better in Mission Burrito form
I once had a couple of stringray tacos.
We need a master post/thread for all the food suggestions
The hot item here is a taco coated with slightly burnt cheese.
Tried the late night street tacos on Beach Blvd. in Anaheim for the first time last week. Tacos Al Pastor was so good.
Otherwise Kiko's food truck in San Diego by my friend's place is my go to.
Oscars Mexican Seafood has some of the best tacos in San Diego.
I went to the one off Pacific Beach about 5 years ago. Was amazingly good. Bought 3 or 4 and sat on the beach eating them during the sunset. Closed my eyes for a few seconds and woke up to a seagull trying to take the bag with my last one.
Also have been to The Taco Stand in La Jolla and Blue Water. When I have a business trip to SD I try to have fish tacos every night.
The Taco Stand is also very good, I usually go to the one in La Jolla. I think Oscars is a bit better in terms of tacos and other menu item offerings. I take all my Cal friends to Oscars when they are in town and they all love it
These are fantastic tacos…the downtown location was my pre-Copley go-to when I had SD Symphony tix….we’d get those kickass donuts next door as well.
My favorite fish market in SD is El Pescador La Jolla, right across the street. Miss both of those spots!
Otavio brought Nick, Amber and myself to Tacos Y Birria La Unica in LA when we were down there for the USC game/Disneyland trip and it was the best taco I've eaten.
Dia de Pesca in San Jose for excellent fish tacos. Used to just be a taco truck with seats outside, but it's grown a bit and offers lots of great Mexican seafood dishes, but the tacos are really first rate.
Berryhill Baja Grill in Houston for fish tacos .. i am sure SD has better but i have never been
Veracruz All Natural in Austin for migas breakfast tacos .. but i could eat them all day
Dust
All we are is dust in the wind
Vents
Come out to the coast! Have a few laughs!
DBD AV CLUB
Your favorite film of 2022? My top ten: 1) Aftersun 2) Babylon 3) Eo 4) Decision to Leave 5) Tar 6) Banshees of Inisherin 7) Petite Maman 8) Emily the Criminal 9 All Quiet on the Western Front 10) The Eternal Daughter
i just saw babylon last night and it was WILD and i loved it
Favorite film of 2022 was Top Gun Maverick.
Rewatching Neon Genesis Evagelion
OOOooOOOooo - no internet or working Cable, we watched the first 2 episodes of Friday Night Lights - such a great show, had never ever watched since it aired on TV (2006 I think)
Also: we are kinda weird, we have TONS of DVD's or Blu-Rays of various TV shows and have maybe watched 5-10% max. Weird.
One of the best TV shows I've seen. Up there with The Wire.
I'd highly recommend watching the entire series. One of the seasons, either 2 or 3, isn't as good but power through it. The remaining seasons make it worth it.
I remember it's 2 that's not so good plot.
Oh...i misread that you said you hadn't watched it since it aired. Thought you said you hadn't watched it. The Matt Saracen Everybody Leaves Me scene in Season 2 was one of the best.
I haven't watched it since it aired! But I remember it being not as good, based on some things that happened early in that season.
Yeah the story arc with Tyra and Landry wasn't very good.
Started Kaledioscope...interesting caper/heist series on Netflix. 2 of 8 in...good cast.
OUR CRUMBLING DEMOCRACY
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist.
.
Then they came for...
https://twitter.com/fodderyfodder/status/1610014958942654471
House Speakership vote is today. McCarthy doesn't seem to have enough votes as the so-called Freedom Caucus opposes him. The House will vote repeatedly until they have a winner, but they can adopt a vote to change the voting rules to elect via plurality or ranked choice.
I didn't realize they were going to do a roll call. Gonna take a while with 435 reps. I think the House usually votes electronically.
Of the 19 GOPers who voted for someone other than McCarthy on the first ballot, at least 18 have now voted for Jim Jordan. Jordan himself voted for McCarthy. I seem to have missed the vote of Andy Ogles (TN-5); it may have been McCarthy or it was not announced.
It appears that McCarthy's opposition has coalesced around Jim Jordan. Matt Gaetz suggests that the right person for the job maybe someone who doesn't want it badly (contrast with McCarthy), implying Jim Jordan is the GOP alternate.
Okay, I missed Ogles. Ogles voted for Jordan.
If I counted correctly, Jeffries has 212, McCarthy has 203, Jordan has 19.
No one has a majority. 3rd ballot coming up.
On second ballot we already have 7 votes for Jim Jordan and we're only through the "C"s.
A third ballot is inevitable.
Nineteen GOP members voted for someone other than McCarthy, as per WaPo. Which means McCarthy had 203 votes, 15 short of majority. No wonder Hakeem Jeffries won the plurality. I'm sure he got 212.
The vote for Speaker is a roll call vote. And, as you've probably noticed, in alphabetical order. I'm not 100% sure, but it seems to me that at least 10 GOP voted for someone other than McCarthy. If so, that means he's 6 short of majority (he has no more than 212, he needs 218). It was reported that Hakeem Jeffries got a plurality on the first ballot, but not a majority.
if Santos says he's there, can we believe him?
Is his name really Santos?
I expect a Men in Black-style creature to eventually emerge from his neck.
They could adopt a rule change to declare a winner by plurality. It would be to the Democrats' advantage to vote against such a rule change, though. This is the GOP's leadership problem, not the Democrats'. Let the GOP solve their own problems.
Which means that it puts passage of such a proposal back in the GOP caucus, thus making it a point of negotiation (or not) between the Freedom Caucus and the rest of the GOP.
a.k.a., MCCARTHY'S CRUMBLING COALITION
PRO
Klay scores 54 in the Dubs' 143-141 double-OT victory over Atlanta
https://www.espn.com/nba/recap/_/gameId/401468713
Looney with a tipdrill on his own miss at the buzzer wins it.
https://twitter.com/NBATV/status/1610154453604397056
not that this is a new development .. but W's have best home record and WORST road record of any team in the league. the road record is even worse than the the worst teams in the league which is sort of amazing that they are in line to make the playoffs ..
Hopefully the way the team seems to be gelling here on this homestand to win games without Steph also has benefits for road games when he returns.
i assumed that the W's were cruising to an easy win when i went to sleep at halftime.
but good to see Klay have a monster game
They decided not to play defense in the 3rd. Battled back to win the game. DDV with the game tying 3 with no time left in regulation. :18 on the video.
https://twitter.com/warriors/status/1610163785171599362
Not sure why the Hawks didn't foul since they still had one to give. Poole pretty bad this game, even though he scored a bunch of points.
Donovan Mitchell scores 71 in the Cavs OT win over the Bulls 145-134
https://www.espn.com/nba/game/_/gameId/401468707
This guy is a super fan
https://www.tmj4.com/sports/green-bay-packers/local-packers-fan-hall-of-fame-finalist-is-literally-mr-packer
Racing legend Ken Block killed in a snowmobile accident
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a42381041/ken-block-dead/?
Absolute fucking legend
I woke up to a text from No 1 about this. Can't believe it.
of all the ways to go...
you have to die of something ... that is the motto in our house.
Sure, but he's been up to absolute mayhem for years in cars, only to lose it on a fucking snowmobile.
I've always thought it might be a rally stage. Though, those rally cars are built to survive almost anything.
Buffalo/Cincy game suspended after Bill rookie Damar Hamlin suffered cardiac arrest on the field. It was a chilling scene. Dead silent with players gathered around him while medics performed CPR on Hamlin for 9 minutes in the middle of the field.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35368372/damar-hamlin-collapses-field-bills-bengals-temporarily-suspended
The Onion predicts the future one day in advance
https://www.theonion.com/nfl-gravediggers-rush-to-field-to-bury-unconscious-play-1849744962
Too cynical even for the Onion, at least for 2023.
Bizarre, even by Onion standards.
The response to Hamlin being down was sometimes shocking. TV broadcaster were saying that the NFL sideline crew told the teams they had 5 minutes to warm up before starting up the game again. The Coaches met with officials and mutually/correctly agreed to suspend the game. Then the NFL goes into crisis mode denying they ever would suggest such a thing. And there were a few sports commentators who were wondering why the game shouldn't go on. And then there were an upsetting amount of people on social media out there who somehow linked vaccines and Biden to the event.
Didn't watch this; can't have much of an opinion.
SGBear, you are sadly accurate in your observations.
Here's one of the nicer comments on Buffalorumblings:
"I'm a Bengals fan, section 146 row 2 seats 7 and 8, I was there, Stadium was silent, after Damar left in the ambulance the Bills went back out on defense and stood there waiting to resume play, the Bengals offense refused to go out on the field, watched the game once I got home because I taped them all and watch them afterwards, I was surprised not to see this in the taping and more surprised nothing was mentioned about it, anyway their refusal to play made me even more proud of my team. I will end this by saying there were 4 Bills fans in the row directly behind me from West Virginia. During the time the game was suspended until postponed me, my son and 3 other Bengals fans from our row held hands with those 4 Bills fans and prayed for Hamlin"
This is a thing where I'm waiting for more information to come out before rendering judgment. It could be that the officials on the field were just trying to follow normal procedure for an injury (even a major one where someone needs to be taken off on a stretcher) and didn't entirely know what was going on. It doesn't seem like anybody fought very hard to restart the game once the coaches/players came together and asked to postpone.
It could also be a prime example of the NFL being a callous and cruel organization! I just can't be sure yet.
Unless they have been or are in the middle of an evolving incident, it can be hard to appreciate how chaotic information flow can be. Everyone is either fully engrossed in dealing with it, or on the perimeter trying to contribute to or manage the event. Communications should be better (though that often contributes to the infuriating delays), but decades of experience has reinforced the point that its easier said than done.
In my decades of emergency response experience, the post-incident debrief invariably begins with "Communications were an issue".
It shouldn't be, but I'd still rather see the focus on his treatment, and hopefully recovery, and not get sidetracked over a few moments of unclear communications that pretty promptly got sorted out.
Yeah, "fog of war" stuff and all that. I'm reserving judgment on the communication aspect.
I have yet to encounter a reason for giving the NFL the benefit of the doubt on pretty much anything.
Well, that's just it. I don't really want to DEFEND the NFL here. Just trying to acknowledge the lack of certainty.
This was mis-understood and overblown. The operating procedures provide for a minimum time to warm up and get reorganized after any interruption of more than a brief amount, whatever the reason, vs just immediately resuming. It was essentially a "reminder" before the full magnitude of the situation had reached everyone, and it became apparent the circumstances warranted something more.
Reminder my ass. I call BS. I don't care what the operating procedures are.
Anyone paying attention at home via the broadcast understood the magnitude of the situation well before that silly 5-minute warm up period was announced. You can't just ask the players to flip a switch.
Hopefully Hamlin will be able to walk out of the hospital without any lasting damage. His youth, health, rapid treatment (CPR, AED, and whatever else the paramedics administered), and improved post-arrest protocols (at University of Cincinnati, a good medical center) are all on his side. Hope we get word that he's been extubated sometime later today (depending on UC's post-arrest protocol) and that all news coming out will be positive.
I'm glad the game was stopped. I'm not sure where the "take 5 minutes" word came from since no one wants to claim that idiocy but I'm very happy the game was suspended. In another era, the show would have gone on and that thankfully didn't happen this time.
ELSEWHERE IN COLLEGE
MS State kicked a go-ahead FG with 4 seconds to go. Illinois gets the ball back - they have a play that goes five laterals... and then this happened.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/recap/_/gameId/401442011
There will be no extra point.
USC is leading Tulane by 15 with 4.5 minutes to go. The Trojans offense, defense, and special teams all get together to pull off the nearly impossible and somehow lose 46-45 to Tulane in the Cotton Bowl.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35367280/tulane-scores-16-final-4-minutes-stuns-usc-cotton-bowl
Tulane beating U$C was the highlight of the bowl season for me.
I'm not a "root against USC all the time" type of guy but Tulane winning was enough for me to be really happy with that result.
USC and Arkansas gagging their games cost me a win in the Bowl Pool Newellbany and I do with our buddy.
Arkansas ended up winning but not covering, despite blowing the onside kick in embarrassing fashion...SC just gagged it...that Mario Williams muffed kickoff literally cost them the W.
Tulane was my sickos committee decision tree pick to root for a G5 team
The Trojans defense was leaky especially late in the season. IIRC Cal almost pulled out a Tulane like victory by dominating in the fourth quarter. Unfortunately we lacked the mojo of Tulane and couldn't get over the hump. I'm sure their coach will get a lot of credit for going 12-2 after a 2-10 season last year. He may become a hot commodity, but he is not particularly young.
Also, don't know why the Trojans ran slow developing running plays when they were backed up against the goal line. Austin Jones (Furd transfer) was tackled two yards deep in the end zone for a safety right after the SC kick returner fumbled a kick off out of bounds at the one yard line. A confluence of bonehead plays killed them. At this point the Big 10 is getting two teams that both blew leads in their respective bowl games.
Pinning the Trojans deep, which led to the safety and the subsequent short field score, was the key to the whole sequence.
That Mario Williams muffed kick cost them the game.
I think there's a whole sequence of stupid things that went down - dicking around trying to kill clock at 42-30 and ending up scoring a field goal rather than another TD, the kickoff mistake, letting Tulane score on 2 plays, the safety... even though the defense was as porous as usual, the collapse was a full team effort. Still, if they had to do it, I'd rather it was against someone like Tulane.
Absolutely true. A short sequence of derp became a barrel roll to defeat.
#17 LSU smashes Purdue 63-7 in a massive mismatch at the Citrus Bowl.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/recap/_/gameId/401442012
Someone on the Miami boards calling for Brees to be hired as OC, AFTER watching them get shellacked by LSU.
#11 Penn State beats #8 Utah 35-21 in the Rose Bowl.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35368372/damar-hamlin-collapses-field-bills-bengals-temporarily-suspended
All that talking by Utah about how they weren't respected despite beating SC twice and they don't even have the decency to lose to Penn State in an interesting fashion.
I was curious to see if there would be discussion of Sonny-ball here. And at the end of the day, not one word.
CAL
Sashu Manchani is talented. And, I believe she is a 1st year.
https://twitter.com/UCBerkeley/status/1610052040016941058
Women's basketball team defeated ASU yesterday at Haas, 74-61, behind a strong fourth quarter. I imagine there'll be an article on the main page later today. Meanwhile https://calbears.com/news/2023/1/2/womens-basketball-cal-surges-late-in-74-61-win-over-arizona-state.aspx
unfortuntately there isn't a regular women's basketball writer - but there will be regular women's coverage, but not game to game recaps. think of it more as bi-weekly check-ins and some broader discussion of how the team is doing.
It's a shame because they had a regular women's basketball writer lined up last year but they never completed onboarding him.
i . .. don't think that's true?
Absolutely true.
Who was this mysterious person?
Go Bears!!! Is there a QB sighting somewhere?