In today’s college game, if you lack mobility as Plummer does, you have to possess above average arm talent and accuracy, or be an incredibly efficient QB, to win ballgames. Really none of these traits accurately describe him, unfortunately.
Fuck Andrew Luck, fuck Peter Thiel, fuck Tiger Woods, fuck Josh Hawley, fuck Elon “space Karen” Musk, fuck Elizabeth Holmes, fuck Condoleezza Rice, certainly fuck Herbert Hoover, fuck Mitt Romney, fuck Jim Harbaugh, fuck David Shaw, and fuck you to if you went to Stanford university.
Fuck Stanford from today to infinity. In a shit stain of a season we still wiped our asses with your shitty uniforms, with your shitty program and even shittier school.
When I read this "Daily Californian," quoting Joe Kapp as saying, "I swear to God, life's just not fair," I would have sworn it was really. It sounded just like something Kapp would say.
A few fun facts: Justin Wilcox is now 3-3 in Big Games. Jack Plummer has quarterbacked more Big Game wins than Jared Goff, Mike Pawlawski and Craig Morton combined. The Bears have won back-to-back Big Games for the first time since 08-09.
I was only counting people who'd actually played in Big Games and I can't believe I have to explain this but here we are. Goff, Pawalski and Morton played in eight between them. Plummer one.
I appreciate Joe Kapp for being Joe Kapp….. got his autograph on my hat at UW 12+ years ago. Perfect gentleman, happy to chat…..I wanted to give him a hug. So glad he got his tribute last night!!!!!
Not a hero, but rather an icon. Spectacular but ultimately fleeting moments of success, coupled with absolute frustration over his flaws. He encapsulates the very essence of Cal.
It probably was, but that 1982 team was heavily populated with juniors and seniors with chips on their shoulders, and pretty much ran itself despite Kapp, winning the games it should have won (while still being overmatched by the ranked teams on its schedule) and finishing 7-4.
By 1983, as Theder’s recruits began to move on, Kapp’s flaws became more obvious and troubling, exemplified by a nearly disastrous sequence in the 1983 opener in College Station against Texas A&M that nearly cost us the win if not for Ron Rivera…
Yes, by the end of the 1986 season, Kapp’s shtick as a coach had long worn off. The 1986 Big Game win was even more of a miracle given how badly the program had atrophied under him.
The criticisms of his coaching were well-founded, as well as his limitations as a player (for instance, in the NFL, once he left Minnesota and got traded to the Patriots). But I’ve never seen anyone doubt his love for Cal, despite his obvious flaws. As a fellow Chicano, Kapp was a true “pendejo” at times, but he’s one loyal Bear you’d rather have on your side than not.
As I said above, I don’t necessarily consider him a hero but he remains a school icon and a reminder for a lot of us about loving one’s alma mater, faults and all.
If this is an argument about "best Cal coach", then yeah. But I don't think I was ever trying to make that specific point. Clearly Kapp's flaws have been obivous to everyone, and I would imagine that even Kapp himself would be the first to admit to it.
As shitty as it was, the offense by committee and play calling was still more fun to watch than Musgrave’s offense. I really don’t want to see another Jack Plummer falling backwards airmail 50/50 ball ever again.
I don’t think Plummer got sacked once (ignoring his shitty scramble where he got tackled instead of running for a 1st down by using a blocker). Maybe we played better, maybe Furd sucks (well…..), or maybe even both!!!!
I think I would have preferred Musgrave calling plays. He did have success in scoring points against Stanford and generally called good games against them.
The 2nd INT was just a blind throw as if the receiver HAD to be open after the fake to Ott….. inexcusable. The first one at least he was trying to make a play…..
I thought the opposite - not that the offense was amazing or anything, but without some puzzling drops from the wideouts, things looked a lot better. We ran tons of slants to take advantage of our WRs and had a bunch of steady 4-8 yard gains. We used Ott in space via tosses and short passes. We mainly got away from the infuriating wideout screens (we ran one) but we did change the way we ran them with a similar play that set the other wideouts up to crackback block instead of straight up block.
If Young and J. Mike make even half of their catches, we have a comfortable 17 point win I think.
I thought that too. The frustration wasn’t on the play calling, it was with execution which is on the players. I’d like to not feel frustrated at all while watching the offense, but it’s nice to not be for the same exact reasons every game.
Agreed….not sure why J. Mike had the dropsies. I still congratulated him after “storming” the field (well, walked slowly down a staircase with handrails…). I’m so happy!!!!!
Agreed . . . the play sequencing was certainly improved, even if we kept shooting ourselves in the foot and killing promising drives with mistakes (turnovers, drops, penalties). We should have had more points in the first half with how we moved the ball between the 20s.
Also in the category of "noteworthy" for _this_ Big Game, the band held the high "free" note in the Star Spangled Banner for a REALLY long time. Musically, it seemed like forever, though it may have only been about 10 seconds in reality. At first we wondered what the heck they were doing. When the band director dramatically searched about the sky, I knew it was for a flyover. Unfortunately, he couldn't keep the band playing the note for much longer, and they wrapped it up. Maybe 90 seconds after they concluded, THREE jets in formation in an awesome low display delivered the expected shrieking flyover. This isn't the first time I've seen a badly coordinated flyover. Those things must be very difficult to execute, let alone in time with the music of TWO marching bands.
I did get home in time to watch the finish and hear Starkey have to correct himself about fifteen times. On the Sirmon play he thought Cal threw two laterals.
You beautiful s.o.b's. We did it. Go Bears forever.
That 4Q was a nice turn of events.
I want to say a win, in spite of our QB and OLine.
Plummer’s 2 picks are an example of why there’s no way he can be your QB next year. If he is, 5 wins is your ceiling.
Agreed. It's confounding that we are not, at the least, splitting time between Plummer and Milner.
Just one of the countless baffling decisions Justin Wilcox has made.
Literally the only things he does right is beat Stanford half the time and not have a team of criminals.
If we are getting a new OC, might as well go with new QB
In today’s college game, if you lack mobility as Plummer does, you have to possess above average arm talent and accuracy, or be an incredibly efficient QB, to win ballgames. Really none of these traits accurately describe him, unfortunately.
OUT AXE
Also OUR AXE!
Also OTT AXE!
Leaving this at 6 likes seems appropriate.
Fuck Andrew Luck, fuck Peter Thiel, fuck Tiger Woods, fuck Josh Hawley, fuck Elon “space Karen” Musk, fuck Elizabeth Holmes, fuck Condoleezza Rice, certainly fuck Herbert Hoover, fuck Mitt Romney, fuck Jim Harbaugh, fuck David Shaw, and fuck you to if you went to Stanford university.
Fuck Stanford from today to infinity. In a shit stain of a season we still wiped our asses with your shitty uniforms, with your shitty program and even shittier school.
Big Game bitches!
WHOES AXE!?!?! OUR AXE!!!!
Go Bears!
You had me at, "fuck Josh Hawley".
Fuck them all as well for making a poor decision in their youth.
Fuck elite private colleges, one of the biggest running scams in America.
Yes, fuck ND for the Immaculate Encroachment call.
And, always, fuck SC.
I was rooting so hard for UCLA and DTR played hurt and courageously.
Thank you for bringing balance to the Force of Furd Hate.
OMG, can we just hate Furd? LOL
Tell us how you really feel.
Ummm, I'll have what SD81 is having.
My period for hating on Stanford never ends and will never be over. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever.
Stanford can put my sweaty, bloody balls in their mouth from now to eternity.
Glad you did not say "bloody," because that mental image is too much to process.
Go cry at Stanford stadium and university if you’re upset with my post.
For a Cal fan that just won the Big Game you sure seem upset.
How come I can’t like this post 100x????
Beautifully put.
This should be the only comment allowed on this thread…there really is not anything else anyone can add!
Well, John Elway was left out of the rant, but maybe it's because he lost to Cal 3 out of 4 Big Games.
He also sucked on the pitcher's mound at Evans Diamond while playing baseball against us, but that's a different anecdote...
Elway declined to participate in this rant like it was an E:60 episode.
He was offered the 1st overall “fuck” in the draft but he declined and decided to sit out a year. We will get him next season.
LOL, you sure seem like fun guy that can’t take a joke.
It was all a joke, I don’t really hate them. Well, maybe one or two of them.
Oh Musk did go to Stanford
https://fortune.com/2022/02/15/why-elon-musk-dropped-out-of-stanford/amp/
Rice and Harbaugh were employed at the evil empire known as Stanford. Guilty by association.
When I read this "Daily Californian," quoting Joe Kapp as saying, "I swear to God, life's just not fair," I would have sworn it was really. It sounded just like something Kapp would say.
https://stanforddaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-16-at-2.19.25-AM.png
I appreciate Jaydn Ott, Daniel Scott, and Jackson Sirmon excising the memories of two indifferent Jack Plummer fade passes...
OMG, we won!
Despite our some of best efforts to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Well we never got the lead until late in the game so we didn’t have much time to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
We’ll, not for a lack of trying.
Yes: Especially Scott’s picks and Sirmon running it back gave me fond memories of Evan Weaver! #GoBears
And Hearns will/should be back.
Also, maybe, just maybe, we can finally have BRETT JOHNSON on the field.
We are grading on a Stanford curve!!
A+++++++++++ for everyone!!
well, if we are using the Stanford curve, Wilcox gets a Gentle-person's B (which is what you get for showing up).
And Musgrave and Angus got to drop their class before they failed out.
Zing!!!!!!
A few fun facts: Justin Wilcox is now 3-3 in Big Games. Jack Plummer has quarterbacked more Big Game wins than Jared Goff, Mike Pawlawski and Craig Morton combined. The Bears have won back-to-back Big Games for the first time since 08-09.
He should be 4-2 and on a 3 game winning streak as we should have won in 2020 during the Covid game.
That would mean a four-game winning streak.
But we didn’t……
JW’s record in Big Games is kind of deceiving. So much of that is just the Furd being absolute shit as opposed to us being good.
But Furd being absolute shit is all the more reason for us to be pounding on them when they are. 41-11 last year was glorious.
And because the fever dream of David Shaw as some sort of genius had finally broken.
Yes, but it was the same way when Furd had some of their winning streaks against Cal. That's how it goes.
We still owe them for 63-13 fwiw.
So wins don't count if the other team is bad. Does that mean losses against Furd count from years when they were good?
Jack Plummer has also quarterbacked more Big Game wins than roughly ~117 billion of the humans who have ever lived combined.
I was only counting people who'd actually played in Big Games and I can't believe I have to explain this but here we are. Goff, Pawalski and Morton played in eight between them. Plummer one.
He also has won more Big Game than me.
More than you and me combined!
I appreciate Joe Kapp for being Joe Kapp….. got his autograph on my hat at UW 12+ years ago. Perfect gentleman, happy to chat…..I wanted to give him a hug. So glad he got his tribute last night!!!!!
Not a hero, but rather an icon. Spectacular but ultimately fleeting moments of success, coupled with absolute frustration over his flaws. He encapsulates the very essence of Cal.
It probably was, but that 1982 team was heavily populated with juniors and seniors with chips on their shoulders, and pretty much ran itself despite Kapp, winning the games it should have won (while still being overmatched by the ranked teams on its schedule) and finishing 7-4.
By 1983, as Theder’s recruits began to move on, Kapp’s flaws became more obvious and troubling, exemplified by a nearly disastrous sequence in the 1983 opener in College Station against Texas A&M that nearly cost us the win if not for Ron Rivera…
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2006/12/21/rivera-rescued-cal-vs-texas-am-in-83/
Yes, by the end of the 1986 season, Kapp’s shtick as a coach had long worn off. The 1986 Big Game win was even more of a miracle given how badly the program had atrophied under him.
The criticisms of his coaching were well-founded, as well as his limitations as a player (for instance, in the NFL, once he left Minnesota and got traded to the Patriots). But I’ve never seen anyone doubt his love for Cal, despite his obvious flaws. As a fellow Chicano, Kapp was a true “pendejo” at times, but he’s one loyal Bear you’d rather have on your side than not.
As I said above, I don’t necessarily consider him a hero but he remains a school icon and a reminder for a lot of us about loving one’s alma mater, faults and all.
If this is an argument about "best Cal coach", then yeah. But I don't think I was ever trying to make that specific point. Clearly Kapp's flaws have been obivous to everyone, and I would imagine that even Kapp himself would be the first to admit to it.
As shitty as it was, the offense by committee and play calling was still more fun to watch than Musgrave’s offense. I really don’t want to see another Jack Plummer falling backwards airmail 50/50 ball ever again.
The playcalling was definitely new. No running in the first half. But if we are going to be pass happy, I don't want Plummer playing.
I don’t think Plummer got sacked once (ignoring his shitty scramble where he got tackled instead of running for a 1st down by using a blocker). Maybe we played better, maybe Furd sucks (well…..), or maybe even both!!!!
They called more moving pockets and quick-hitting passes . . . so basically what we should have always been doing with a bad O-line.
I think I would have preferred Musgrave calling plays. He did have success in scoring points against Stanford and generally called good games against them.
WHEW!TOO CLOSE!!I NOW I MIGHT BE ABLE TO SURVIVE UNTIL THE AXE IS UP FOR GRBBS AGAIN. GERGEAR
"Cardiac Cal", Gerald.
We fired Musgrave won the Big Game but this offense wasn't much promising.
Easy win if Plummer doesn’t make bonehead plays
He has a terrible habit of throwing 50/50 desperation throws up in the air.
The replay I saw when I checked ESPN looked like he shotputted instead of threw his endzone interception.
Which end zone interception? Your statement is not specific enough, though they can both be described as 'bad decisions'.
Agreed, Musgrave should have coached that out of him
The 2nd INT was just a blind throw as if the receiver HAD to be open after the fake to Ott….. inexcusable. The first one at least he was trying to make a play…..
Shhh! No more sad tears…only happy tears now.
I thought the opposite - not that the offense was amazing or anything, but without some puzzling drops from the wideouts, things looked a lot better. We ran tons of slants to take advantage of our WRs and had a bunch of steady 4-8 yard gains. We used Ott in space via tosses and short passes. We mainly got away from the infuriating wideout screens (we ran one) but we did change the way we ran them with a similar play that set the other wideouts up to crackback block instead of straight up block.
If Young and J. Mike make even half of their catches, we have a comfortable 17 point win I think.
I thought that too. The frustration wasn’t on the play calling, it was with execution which is on the players. I’d like to not feel frustrated at all while watching the offense, but it’s nice to not be for the same exact reasons every game.
Agreed….not sure why J. Mike had the dropsies. I still congratulated him after “storming” the field (well, walked slowly down a staircase with handrails…). I’m so happy!!!!!
Agreed . . . the play sequencing was certainly improved, even if we kept shooting ourselves in the foot and killing promising drives with mistakes (turnovers, drops, penalties). We should have had more points in the first half with how we moved the ball between the 20s.
True. Those slants worked to get 7-8 yards constantly. Reminded me of Loggy. That was a long time ago!
I think the reason I wasn't excited was Plummer.
Also in the category of "noteworthy" for _this_ Big Game, the band held the high "free" note in the Star Spangled Banner for a REALLY long time. Musically, it seemed like forever, though it may have only been about 10 seconds in reality. At first we wondered what the heck they were doing. When the band director dramatically searched about the sky, I knew it was for a flyover. Unfortunately, he couldn't keep the band playing the note for much longer, and they wrapped it up. Maybe 90 seconds after they concluded, THREE jets in formation in an awesome low display delivered the expected shrieking flyover. This isn't the first time I've seen a badly coordinated flyover. Those things must be very difficult to execute, let alone in time with the music of TWO marching bands.
I blame Stanfurd.
Uncomfortable and true confession: I left Memorial before the 4th quarter. The Bear did not quit, even though I did.
+1 for honesty. -1 for execution. Net result - Go Bears, sorry you missed it.
I'd prefer to think my leaving made the difference.
I did get home in time to watch the finish and hear Starkey have to correct himself about fifteen times. On the Sirmon play he thought Cal threw two laterals.
Like Churchill said about the king Arthur myth: “And every word of it was true, or ought to be.”
my son suggested that we listed to the radio feed and Starkey next week while watching on TV. Gonna go for it.
Happy days. We've got the Axe. Improbable but delightful 4th quarter. Plus I got to meet Avinash on the field after the game.
The packed stadium of fans carried that game during unwatchable stretches. Defense carried the day, though.
Have to deduct some fan points for the worst fan field rush I've seen. Basic flow dynamics, people!
Student section was awesome today.
Also I think Evan Weaver led a cheer?
I wandered over to Q because QQ was full. It was pretty empty for the 1sf quarter but filled in to standing room only.
I was incredibly surprised by the turnout today. I was telling my buddy that I thought maybe 40k would show up.
how can the stadium be packed when the end zone was tarped over. Was it under construction?
But that stadium holds, like, 1.5 million people…..IDK, maybe someone could look that up for me….
Daniel Scott willed the Bears to victory in the fourth quarter.
We won because I wore my 40 year old The Play hoodie!
I had a play T-shirt. Don't know what happened to it. But I grew up and changed sizes.
God damn, why, oh why, did I ever give mine to my nephew?
My the Play hoodie does fit a little tighter than it used to. I’m happy that I didn’t get too much bigger, and am quite happy that I saved it.
Started watching at halftime and felt sad. But now I am happy!