If it is true that we are the only FBS program in the whole nation to have this occur, and if it is not merely a function of how often people are tested or some other local public health protocol, then it speaks very poorly to the culture and systems of our Football team. Wilcox needs to address this. No BS. Straight up. If the players aren't taking this seriously, getting tested, wearing masks, then it is on the coaches. On the coaches. On the coaches.
From that statement, it's clear to me what an individual's responsibilities are if you're sick, having symptoms, or even think you might have symptoms: get tested, isolate, wear a mask indoors (in other words, keep your germs to yourself).
This is magnified in a setting such as a football team, where there is frequent contact with others in practice, in meetings, in the weight room, and outside of formal team settings such as living arrangements shared with teammates.
But kids are arrogant (invincibility aura) and athletes are often even more arrogant (I'm special; I can do what I want when I want).
To summarize, one of the players got COVID, didn't get tested and/or isolate, and continued to hang around other players who were not masking/social distancing. Thus an outbreak occurred.
It’s been said over and over but I’ll say it again. 99% vaccination rate and now 44 individuals in the program reported as COVID positive. There is no way you have that many break through cases based the statistics reported to date. Unless maybe they have a newer strain than the Delta. And what happened to the players that initially tested positive followed by a negative test, were they cleared, were they tested further, are they being quarantined??? Regardless of who’s at fault this whole shit show just doesn’t pass the smell test!
I think I read somewhere at some point that sexual assault rates at UC Berkeley were higher than at other universities because Cal was actually putting in place improved policies to better report sexual assault on campus. The result was that, statistically, it appeared that UC Berkeley had a accurately reported higher rate of sexual assault versus, say, a school like Baylor with a dramatically underreported rate.
It feels like we are seeing kind of a similar thing here with Covid where maybe Cal and the regional public health community are striving to do the right thing, but schools elsewhere may be under-reporting. We have a university which is part of a larger community where more strict protocols and enforcement of public health measures are in place. Well, when you have that of course you are going to uncover more Covid. And when one unvcovers more Covid then one is forced to deal with the consequence of uncovering more Covid. And that's where Cal seems to be.
Full vaccination should (is supposed to) result in testing reverting to negative quickly.
If they are testing daily, there should be relief. It would be interesting to know the nature of the test since we know PCR can be run with extra cycles and detect DNA fragments that do not indicate transmission risk.
Here's a theory to consider... since it seems lack of testing masked a problem until team wide testing was done, it's entirely reasonable to suggest that other teams are likely in the same boat (having lots of unknown COVID positive players). Which would also suggest that a significant contingent of Cal players may have gotten COVID from game-time interaction with other teams. In this case, likely from Oregon State (due to the timing).
Sheesh. The latest details, and this statement, are making some of the takes from the past few days (mine included) age like milk...
Any hope of salvaging this season is dead. Get the youngins some reps (whoever is able to suit up that is), and onward to next season. Unless UW poaches our coach that is (where the hell did that come from? Is that even in the realm of possibility?)
The Bear is dead. Long live the Bear! (totally stole that from the other thread; going to use it forever)
Thanks Avi for all your digging into the COVID protocols of UC Berkeley, City of berkeley and reaching out!
If it is true that we are the only FBS program in the whole nation to have this occur, and if it is not merely a function of how often people are tested or some other local public health protocol, then it speaks very poorly to the culture and systems of our Football team. Wilcox needs to address this. No BS. Straight up. If the players aren't taking this seriously, getting tested, wearing masks, then it is on the coaches. On the coaches. On the coaches.
From that statement, it's clear to me what an individual's responsibilities are if you're sick, having symptoms, or even think you might have symptoms: get tested, isolate, wear a mask indoors (in other words, keep your germs to yourself).
This is magnified in a setting such as a football team, where there is frequent contact with others in practice, in meetings, in the weight room, and outside of formal team settings such as living arrangements shared with teammates.
But kids are arrogant (invincibility aura) and athletes are often even more arrogant (I'm special; I can do what I want when I want).
Is it any wonder this happened?
To summarize, one of the players got COVID, didn't get tested and/or isolate, and continued to hang around other players who were not masking/social distancing. Thus an outbreak occurred.
It’s been said over and over but I’ll say it again. 99% vaccination rate and now 44 individuals in the program reported as COVID positive. There is no way you have that many break through cases based the statistics reported to date. Unless maybe they have a newer strain than the Delta. And what happened to the players that initially tested positive followed by a negative test, were they cleared, were they tested further, are they being quarantined??? Regardless of who’s at fault this whole shit show just doesn’t pass the smell test!
Did the players have a mass slumber party in an unventilated room or something?
I think I read somewhere at some point that sexual assault rates at UC Berkeley were higher than at other universities because Cal was actually putting in place improved policies to better report sexual assault on campus. The result was that, statistically, it appeared that UC Berkeley had a accurately reported higher rate of sexual assault versus, say, a school like Baylor with a dramatically underreported rate.
It feels like we are seeing kind of a similar thing here with Covid where maybe Cal and the regional public health community are striving to do the right thing, but schools elsewhere may be under-reporting. We have a university which is part of a larger community where more strict protocols and enforcement of public health measures are in place. Well, when you have that of course you are going to uncover more Covid. And when one unvcovers more Covid then one is forced to deal with the consequence of uncovering more Covid. And that's where Cal seems to be.
It's good that people are finally speaking up. I wonder if Chase got all the answers he was asking for.
This whole thing is a fucking mess.
Whoa.
Full vaccination should (is supposed to) result in testing reverting to negative quickly.
If they are testing daily, there should be relief. It would be interesting to know the nature of the test since we know PCR can be run with extra cycles and detect DNA fragments that do not indicate transmission risk.
This is now part of the national non-sports news, Washington Post has an article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/11/10/cal-usc-postponed-covid/
Here's a theory to consider... since it seems lack of testing masked a problem until team wide testing was done, it's entirely reasonable to suggest that other teams are likely in the same boat (having lots of unknown COVID positive players). Which would also suggest that a significant contingent of Cal players may have gotten COVID from game-time interaction with other teams. In this case, likely from Oregon State (due to the timing).
Thoughts?
Thanks for the reporting! My question is, if 99% of the program is vaccinated, are there that many break-through cases?
Sheesh. The latest details, and this statement, are making some of the takes from the past few days (mine included) age like milk...
Any hope of salvaging this season is dead. Get the youngins some reps (whoever is able to suit up that is), and onward to next season. Unless UW poaches our coach that is (where the hell did that come from? Is that even in the realm of possibility?)
The Bear is dead. Long live the Bear! (totally stole that from the other thread; going to use it forever)