I hope the earth continues to rotate so the sun comes up tomorrow because tonight is about as dark as Cal fans have seen in a very long time. The Bear is dead, long live the Bears!
How could I forget! Ha....but I’d argue this was worse...your opener in year 3 - yikes...UCSD is still making the transition to D1 and has never beaten a P10/P12 team before.
So, stadiums all over the country have been packed and many in states w/ low vaccination rates. And yet Cal is the only P5 team to have been hit with an outbreak? Someone will be the guinea pig on this and unfortunately it will be Wilcox. Although at this point he may be happy to get the buyout to get the fuck out of Berkeley. I hope this doesn't happen cuz Wilcox was getting there. Prior to this shit show, Cal had one of the best offenses in the conference. I challenge anyone to name a better offense mid-season? The defense was flourishing. Knowlton should already be fired, what a chicken shit of a person he is.
This totally sucks. This outbreak and the nums associated with it are defying all statistics. Something is rotten in Berkeley.
Wilner is saying Lake is out as HC of the puppies and that Wilcox will be offered the job. He should take it if offered. Then, at some point, Cal fans will realize how fucked we really are.
Of course he would take it. It would mean a raise, a chance to start fresh, and an admin and University that would support him. But he’d need to win and win fast there. Hevwill for sure be a candidate, but I doubt (hope) it’s not preordained. Even though his tenure has been a little underwhelming, you’re right that it would sink us further. What AZ is trying to pull out of is a good comp for what we could experience. Until Knowlton is replaced by another AD with greater vision, we’ll be lucky to just tread water.
I wouldn't worry about that if I were you. As a Cal ?fan? you should worry / consider the mass exodus of players should Wilcox be fired or leave. The players like Wilcox and they want to play for him. A lot of players will transfer (heck some may due to this past week alone, and who could blame them) especially on defense. A defense that is rated #3 in the conference despite starting a bunch of freshman and underclassmen. A defense that will welcome injured players back ~ BJ & Deng ~ that will make it a top defense in the conference (already there). Offense is top 5 and getting better!!
I get it, your narrative is that the coaches can't coach. Got it. But the metrics mid-way through the season don't support your opinion. And I take it that even you can understand / appreciate the outlier the AZ game was, right?
You and the other blokes here wanna see a dumpster fire for the next 5 years? You'll get your wish plus some if Wilcox is gone.
Respectfully, I hear what you’re saying, GEAT....but how much of an “outlier” game was Arizona really, considering the same thing happened pretty much all of last year?
When you’re the runaway winner for “Power 5 program MOST affected by a global pandemic” for the second straight season, something is clearly rotten in Denmark, so to speak, no?
Win/loss is a metric, so he is correct. That doesn’t mean he is being critical or doesn’t want Wilcox. It is a fact, he has a losing overall and Pac 12 record.
Yep, Wilner has continued to be wrong about Cal. Throughout his career he has shown an anti Cal and pro Stanford bias. His reporting through this whole Covid outbreak has mostly been wrong.
While this shit show will certainly cost us long-term on many levels, postponing it is probably in our best interest for this game only given that we'd be so limited in practice this week.
This situation is a mess. Neither CoB HS or CAL HS are responding to questions by the players or the press. But from what I am reading the whole thing is highly suspect and now that it has unfolded into a scandal the ranks are closing. One reporter asked if it was true that in the Bay Area with such a low rate of Covid, with a 99% vaccination rate for the team, that so many players actually had Covid. If so then then he said the public had a right to know. Something really got messed up here and the powers behind it are trying to hide from truth. It will come out. Here is the article: https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/cal-players-speak-out
How does a 99% vaccinated population in the friggin' low-virus Bay Area end up with so many positives? This does not make sense, even with delta. It would be hard to see this attack rate if someone actively pumped SARS-CoV-2 into an unventilated room.
At least I don't have to convince my wife again to let me attend this weekend, though I don't think "coronavirus outbreak" will be a great selling point for me to attend the Big Game. Low attendance should help with social distancing, though.
To me, something really doesn't add up. 99.5% vaccination rate and 30+ Covid positives? Am I missing something, or is it a strangely huge number of breakthrough cases?
Knowlton has to be fired asap or Cal needs to just drop down to MWC or FCS at this point. Mens Basketball and football are a smoldering tire fire inside a dumper tucked in the corner of the Chernobyl reactor.
I've been singing this loudly of late, but think recruiting Tedford for the AD job could help fix a lot of our issues quickly. He understands our worts and the challenges of Berkeley, he'd be an advocate for coaches and players, he'd have good eye for coaching talent, and just by being here he'd jumpstart giving again. He's probably coached his last game because of his health and I still think he has feels for this place and his legacy here.
This is unbelievable. How is this game cancelled but we were able to play against Arizona? What a cluster f*** of a season. Just when I thought it couldn’t get more disappointing, it does. At this point I might just be done with Cal football all together.
Did they retest the whole team again and have another 30 cases of Covid.
So, Leland, this means some of those players that were negative & then made the trip to Tucson and played have now tested positive? So they played after exposure but before it had sunk in, so to speak?
Exactly! This is why it is so surprising. So kids that were negative as of Saturday are now positive and the kids they were positive last week still aren’t cleared to play this week.
I could be wrong but NCAA said no delays. However, the PAC12 may have a clause allowing for a postponement, if the team can show they did everything to avoid it. Pretty much impossible to prove, IMO.
In your dreams. We can play football when we are healthy. You really hate CAL and Wilcox don't you. I'll ask you again: are you Ross Bowers? If so Garbers is way better than you are in your dreams.
What are you talking about? I didn’t say anything remotely critical of Cal or Wilcox. I’m upset at the Covid outbreak situation and why we were able to play last week with so many players out but not this week. Both games should have been postponed if we are going to postpone this game.
I’m stress ordering West Coast Pizza cheese sticks
Do it!
Can we reschedule and re-play the Arizona game as well?
LOL
This COVID outbreak is now officially the biggest *positive* news the team has experienced all season!
boo this man! lol
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LOL
I hope the earth continues to rotate so the sun comes up tomorrow because tonight is about as dark as Cal fans have seen in a very long time. The Bear is dead, long live the Bears!
What is dead can never be dead.
What a no good very bad day for Cal. I'm sure I could coach MBB at this rate lol.
Is it basketball season yet? Oh wait, nvm...
This is as bad a loss as any by Wyking...and in year 3 of Fox.
Knowlton is the problem...
Never forget, we got blown out by a D2 team under Wyking Jones.
How could I forget! Ha....but I’d argue this was worse...your opener in year 3 - yikes...UCSD is still making the transition to D1 and has never beaten a P10/P12 team before.
Awesome game on Dec 4th. Very pleasantly surprised!!
Good point.
So, stadiums all over the country have been packed and many in states w/ low vaccination rates. And yet Cal is the only P5 team to have been hit with an outbreak? Someone will be the guinea pig on this and unfortunately it will be Wilcox. Although at this point he may be happy to get the buyout to get the fuck out of Berkeley. I hope this doesn't happen cuz Wilcox was getting there. Prior to this shit show, Cal had one of the best offenses in the conference. I challenge anyone to name a better offense mid-season? The defense was flourishing. Knowlton should already be fired, what a chicken shit of a person he is.
This totally sucks. This outbreak and the nums associated with it are defying all statistics. Something is rotten in Berkeley.
Go Bears!!
Funny how Florida and Florida State both dealt with a "flu" outbreak...
my money goes on Dumpster Muffin being involved somehow
Go Bears!
Knowlton’s silence throughout this mess shows an incredible lack of leadership...not what you want from your AD.
Yeah, something is rotten, and I think I know what it is.
Wilner is saying Lake is out as HC of the puppies and that Wilcox will be offered the job. He should take it if offered. Then, at some point, Cal fans will realize how fucked we really are.
Of course he would take it. It would mean a raise, a chance to start fresh, and an admin and University that would support him. But he’d need to win and win fast there. Hevwill for sure be a candidate, but I doubt (hope) it’s not preordained. Even though his tenure has been a little underwhelming, you’re right that it would sink us further. What AZ is trying to pull out of is a good comp for what we could experience. Until Knowlton is replaced by another AD with greater vision, we’ll be lucky to just tread water.
Why would they get a coach with a losing record?
I wouldn't worry about that if I were you. As a Cal ?fan? you should worry / consider the mass exodus of players should Wilcox be fired or leave. The players like Wilcox and they want to play for him. A lot of players will transfer (heck some may due to this past week alone, and who could blame them) especially on defense. A defense that is rated #3 in the conference despite starting a bunch of freshman and underclassmen. A defense that will welcome injured players back ~ BJ & Deng ~ that will make it a top defense in the conference (already there). Offense is top 5 and getting better!!
I get it, your narrative is that the coaches can't coach. Got it. But the metrics mid-way through the season don't support your opinion. And I take it that even you can understand / appreciate the outlier the AZ game was, right?
You and the other blokes here wanna see a dumpster fire for the next 5 years? You'll get your wish plus some if Wilcox is gone.
Respectfully, I hear what you’re saying, GEAT....but how much of an “outlier” game was Arizona really, considering the same thing happened pretty much all of last year?
When you’re the runaway winner for “Power 5 program MOST affected by a global pandemic” for the second straight season, something is clearly rotten in Denmark, so to speak, no?
When did I say that? I have been saying I like Wilcox and don't think Sirmon or Musgrave are bad hires either.
Oh, here let me remind you: "Why would they get a coach with a losing record?" You didn't say that that long ago, do you have Alzheimer's?
Win/loss is a metric, so he is correct. That doesn’t mean he is being critical or doesn’t want Wilcox. It is a fact, he has a losing overall and Pac 12 record.
Wilner isn’t reporting, he is assuming and projecting. This all assumption on his part at this point.
Ergo I used the word "saying" and not "reporting". Frankly he's adding fuel to the fire so that he gets more hits.
Yep, Wilner has continued to be wrong about Cal. Throughout his career he has shown an anti Cal and pro Stanford bias. His reporting through this whole Covid outbreak has mostly been wrong.
While this shit show will certainly cost us long-term on many levels, postponing it is probably in our best interest for this game only given that we'd be so limited in practice this week.
This situation is a mess. Neither CoB HS or CAL HS are responding to questions by the players or the press. But from what I am reading the whole thing is highly suspect and now that it has unfolded into a scandal the ranks are closing. One reporter asked if it was true that in the Bay Area with such a low rate of Covid, with a 99% vaccination rate for the team, that so many players actually had Covid. If so then then he said the public had a right to know. Something really got messed up here and the powers behind it are trying to hide from truth. It will come out. Here is the article: https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/cal-players-speak-out
How does a 99% vaccinated population in the friggin' low-virus Bay Area end up with so many positives? This does not make sense, even with delta. It would be hard to see this attack rate if someone actively pumped SARS-CoV-2 into an unventilated room.
At least I don't have to convince my wife again to let me attend this weekend, though I don't think "coronavirus outbreak" will be a great selling point for me to attend the Big Game. Low attendance should help with social distancing, though.
Covid protocol - it doesn't mean they have it, it means they were exposed to someone who had and now they have to quarantine for 7 days (I think).
It's been reported that all of the athletes who were out tested positive for Covid, not contact tracing: https://writeforcalifornia.com/p/cal-football-covid-19-outbreak-2021
To me, something really doesn't add up. 99.5% vaccination rate and 30+ Covid positives? Am I missing something, or is it a strangely huge number of breakthrough cases?
Wow, hadn't seen that.
Good question. Either the team is not nearly 99% vaccinated or whoever is doin the testing has a bad lot leading to mass false positives.
Honestly, I'm in favor of just ending the season entirely now.
Knowlton has to be fired asap or Cal needs to just drop down to MWC or FCS at this point. Mens Basketball and football are a smoldering tire fire inside a dumper tucked in the corner of the Chernobyl reactor.
I've been singing this loudly of late, but think recruiting Tedford for the AD job could help fix a lot of our issues quickly. He understands our worts and the challenges of Berkeley, he'd be an advocate for coaches and players, he'd have good eye for coaching talent, and just by being here he'd jumpstart giving again. He's probably coached his last game because of his health and I still think he has feels for this place and his legacy here.
Did you see his belly? Tedford needs to stay in retirement, eat good food, and get a physical trainer. Last thing he needs in his life is Berkeley.
He might lose all the weight with stress as AD
What about my life?!
No thanks.
There are any number of reasons he would not get hired, but mainly because this is Cal and we rarely, if ever, do the right thing.
Knowlton was actively looking at other jobs...this Athletic Department is a Faulking disaster.
Pac-12 has now announced that the game is rescheduled for Dec. 4.
Who knows what's going on with Cal sports? $4 million paying Wilcox and Fox in a total tire fire in both revenue sports.
That's an unfair comparison.
Football may be a tire fire, but men's bball is a theyve-nuked-the-site-from-orbit fire.
I just watched that today again, for the 59th time....
Why don't you put her in charge then!!!
This is an unmitigated disaster....and Knowlton is re-upped through 2029?? Are you F-ing kidding me????
This is unbelievable. How is this game cancelled but we were able to play against Arizona? What a cluster f*** of a season. Just when I thought it couldn’t get more disappointing, it does. At this point I might just be done with Cal football all together.
Did they retest the whole team again and have another 30 cases of Covid.
Why is it unbelievable that this game is cancelled after playing Arizona?
Per a tweet from ESPN's Bonagura, we have more positives after the initial cohort of players.
So, Leland, this means some of those players that were negative & then made the trip to Tucson and played have now tested positive? So they played after exposure but before it had sunk in, so to speak?
Exactly! This is why it is so surprising. So kids that were negative as of Saturday are now positive and the kids they were positive last week still aren’t cleared to play this week.
So that means we don't have enough players to compete. I'm glad they are rescheduling instead of forfeiting.
I could be wrong but NCAA said no delays. However, the PAC12 may have a clause allowing for a postponement, if the team can show they did everything to avoid it. Pretty much impossible to prove, IMO.
It looks like it's rescheduled
In your dreams. We can play football when we are healthy. You really hate CAL and Wilcox don't you. I'll ask you again: are you Ross Bowers? If so Garbers is way better than you are in your dreams.
What are you talking about? I didn’t say anything remotely critical of Cal or Wilcox. I’m upset at the Covid outbreak situation and why we were able to play last week with so many players out but not this week. Both games should have been postponed if we are going to postpone this game.
I suggest you throw being done with hoops as well...they're down 10 to UCSD with 5 mins left
That’s assuming I wasn’t already done with them. I was hoping this game was being played at ucsd so I could have went.
I gave them a game for a watch & see...was skeptical, but figured I'd give them a game...
This team is just as awful as we suspected. I will probably not watch another game.