Changing public policy on the fly despite no medium term factors changing is bad public policy. Sows distrust in people because it communicates that regardless of what is written executive can change implementation on a whim.
How does the city of Berkeley have authority to prevent its residents from traveling?
I can see how they might legally be able to shut down a game at Memorial, but forced lockdowns of citizens who have multiple negative tests? Complete bullshit; Knowlton should have pulled an Elon Musk and told the city to fuck off.
Shocking that Knowlton is not front and center of this. WTF are we paying him for? He has to know all that transpired and should be able to speak to the facts by now!! If CoB actually did this, it is Knowlton that should be supporting/defending the players and yet nada. He is not a leader.
Just a reminder that a negative test does not mean you do not have the coronavirus in your system. It means the test could not *detect* the virus. It's absolutely possible to test negative multiple times and still have the virus in your system.
It's also absolutely a possibility that there was a testing error in the 24 positives given how high our vaccination rate allegedly is. I would hope that it was requested to directly retest those samples given how unlikely it is to have 24 positives among a group with 99% vaccination rate.
If they had a real positive and contact tracing led to 23 other individuals, then quarantining is the right call if your priorities are to minimize the spread of the virus.
Ugh, I was going through the regulations and wondering how this happened, but it's just moving goalposts by the city of Berkeley - this will be a big recruiting point other teams will use against Cal. Just crazy.
We need some more details, but if Larry Beil is saying it live on the air then it's likely there's something legitimate to the story.
If City of Berkeley really refused two negative tests from a vaccinated, asymptomatic individual, then that is a ridiculous overreach and should be called out publicly. I'm really bothered by this as a pretty left-leaning person politically, because this kind of thing just feeds all the negative stereotypes about the "liberal Bay Area" and how poorly it's run. I cannot fathom why you wouldn't allow a healthy, vaccinated young person to travel after they've tested negative for COVID.
When I say my prayers I offer thanks to the Lord for all my blessings; those I know about and those I don’t. In this case we will never know if this abundance of caution - “fair” or not - spared the life or health of someone out there in Travel Land. I’m grateful we fielded a team and didn’t forfeit. I’m grateful for the kids who got game experience. I’m grateful we took it like adults and am willing to let this loss slip into the ocean of perspective when compared to what’s truly most important.
Do we trust or know that this team is actually 99% vaccinated or are the 99% wink and a nod “Rodgers” vaccinated?
If some players got the moderna or Pfizer shot, did they follow up and the get the second shot? Have any players gotten some sort of exemption waiver? Also, because they exist, have some players gotten fake and turned in fake vaccine cards?
I really wish we could get a very clear description of what happened and why. I really can't begrudge fully vaccinated students from attending the social events they've been deprived of.
Bureaucracies tend to opt for the strictest interpretations possible. When bureaucracies collide (UC and City of Berkeley), it's not always clear who did what, though we know toward which direction they err.
All that matters to me now is who can play vs. U$C. I will not even take my sons to the game and sit in our seats if we are missing all these starters and coaches. We will spend the day out at Point Reyes or some other Bay Area wild place, despite wanting nothing more than to see my Bears battle $C on fair grounds.
This should be an absolute scandal, but it won’t be, and that fact will be one of the most effective recruiting tools against us, for players and coaches.
Other teams won't have to work hard to point to the Berkeley buzzards circling CMS. Bears have already lost players to transfer, and probably recruits. If Wilcox stays it will demonstrate what a great man he is.
Changing public policy on the fly despite no medium term factors changing is bad public policy. Sows distrust in people because it communicates that regardless of what is written executive can change implementation on a whim.
How does the city of Berkeley have authority to prevent its residents from traveling?
I can see how they might legally be able to shut down a game at Memorial, but forced lockdowns of citizens who have multiple negative tests? Complete bullshit; Knowlton should have pulled an Elon Musk and told the city to fuck off.
fire the city of berkeley
Shocking that Knowlton is not front and center of this. WTF are we paying him for? He has to know all that transpired and should be able to speak to the facts by now!! If CoB actually did this, it is Knowlton that should be supporting/defending the players and yet nada. He is not a leader.
It's reason to be very upset. Once again the CofB screws over the university. Biting the hand that feeds it.
This is UFB!! CoB is so fucked up.
Just a reminder that a negative test does not mean you do not have the coronavirus in your system. It means the test could not *detect* the virus. It's absolutely possible to test negative multiple times and still have the virus in your system.
It's also absolutely a possibility that there was a testing error in the 24 positives given how high our vaccination rate allegedly is. I would hope that it was requested to directly retest those samples given how unlikely it is to have 24 positives among a group with 99% vaccination rate.
If they had a real positive and contact tracing led to 23 other individuals, then quarantining is the right call if your priorities are to minimize the spread of the virus.
Ugh, I was going through the regulations and wondering how this happened, but it's just moving goalposts by the city of Berkeley - this will be a big recruiting point other teams will use against Cal. Just crazy.
We need some more details, but if Larry Beil is saying it live on the air then it's likely there's something legitimate to the story.
If City of Berkeley really refused two negative tests from a vaccinated, asymptomatic individual, then that is a ridiculous overreach and should be called out publicly. I'm really bothered by this as a pretty left-leaning person politically, because this kind of thing just feeds all the negative stereotypes about the "liberal Bay Area" and how poorly it's run. I cannot fathom why you wouldn't allow a healthy, vaccinated young person to travel after they've tested negative for COVID.
So, lets get this straight. Vaxed football players who tested negative confined to CoB but untested immigrant refugees welcomed with open arms?
When I say my prayers I offer thanks to the Lord for all my blessings; those I know about and those I don’t. In this case we will never know if this abundance of caution - “fair” or not - spared the life or health of someone out there in Travel Land. I’m grateful we fielded a team and didn’t forfeit. I’m grateful for the kids who got game experience. I’m grateful we took it like adults and am willing to let this loss slip into the ocean of perspective when compared to what’s truly most important.
Do we trust or know that this team is actually 99% vaccinated or are the 99% wink and a nod “Rodgers” vaccinated?
If some players got the moderna or Pfizer shot, did they follow up and the get the second shot? Have any players gotten some sort of exemption waiver? Also, because they exist, have some players gotten fake and turned in fake vaccine cards?
I really wish we could get a very clear description of what happened and why. I really can't begrudge fully vaccinated students from attending the social events they've been deprived of.
Bureaucracies tend to opt for the strictest interpretations possible. When bureaucracies collide (UC and City of Berkeley), it's not always clear who did what, though we know toward which direction they err.
All that matters to me now is who can play vs. U$C. I will not even take my sons to the game and sit in our seats if we are missing all these starters and coaches. We will spend the day out at Point Reyes or some other Bay Area wild place, despite wanting nothing more than to see my Bears battle $C on fair grounds.
This should be an absolute scandal, but it won’t be, and that fact will be one of the most effective recruiting tools against us, for players and coaches.
Other teams won't have to work hard to point to the Berkeley buzzards circling CMS. Bears have already lost players to transfer, and probably recruits. If Wilcox stays it will demonstrate what a great man he is.