There may not be a more dangerous job than starting QB behind Cal’s OL. He might just not want any part of that. And I have to imagine that’s making it a tough sell to transfers too.
The Faraudo article doesn’t make it seem like Millner has much contact with or interest in Cal. Unless something else happened after that, it seems very unlikely he will return.
I read elsewhere that Plummer dragged his decision over whether to return to the point that the coaches chose to move on--and then Plummer expressed a willingness to return after Spavital's arrival. That, of course, likely led to Millner's sense of uncertainty and decision to transfer as well.
Which begs the question as to why the staff chose to go top down and engage Plummer first without concerning itself with Millner's status at the same time. You'd think that Wilcox, at this point, had learned multitasking.
Call it what you want, but Wilcox is an incompetent boob. He has been given an unbelievable benefit of the doubt because he is a good looking man who looks great in Cal gear and comes across as a man of principle. But he has no idea on how to administer a successful Pac 5 football program and keeps showing it in ways that should be obvious to everyone. I just spent about 10 minutes researching the staff that Troy Taylor has put together at Stanford and how he is approaching his new gig. No more easy Big Game wins for you, Justin.
totally your prerogative to think that way about things that are happening on the field (I'm largely in a similar train of thought). Just couldnt get on board with an unhealthy description, as I associate that with off the field and locker room issues.
And a bunch of Wisconsin dudes that know how to coach up 3-stars to Top 10 defenses. Believe me, Taylor is going to serve up some magic on the offensive side of the ball. I believe Gregory was Tedford's OC in the glory days. I have loved TT from the first time I saw him throw a pass at Cal. Actually, I saw him play in the Sacramento high school championship game when he was playing for Rancho Cordova. A complete winner and someone I will root for even though he is now wearing red colors.
The frustrating thing is that 4 programs were basically disasters last year in the Conference (Furd, Colorado, ASU and Cal), and 3 of them made solid new hires.
Cal is basically in somewhat of a free fall with Wilcox, and next year’s schedule is a doozy…2024 is probably a make it or break it, but with that guaranteed contract, not sure he is going anywhere. We’re probably stuck with him.
Spav’s track record of putting up at least competent college offenses is pretty good. If Bloesch can coach up the OL, maybe improve some technique, and get that unit to something approaching average, the O should be better.
We need an influx of talent at the quarterback position…if Chandler Rogers is in fact the guy, Cal likely has the worst QB room in the P12 because its such a strong position for the Conference…tough to win games that way. Would love Justyn Martin…fear it’s a pipe dream.
I attribute a healthy program as one that has a strong culture that also cultivates men and women of leadership off the field. If you want to say the program is underachieving and needs an overhaul, by all means go ahead since there's ample evidence.
I put unhealthy in an off the field category. Texas is an unhealthy program. Whether they are winners is a different discussion. ASU for now is unhealthy. Cal in my opinion is not unhealthy. Hope this clears things up.
That makes sense - totally get where you’re coming from.…guess we just have a difference of opinion on what constitutes a healthy football program, at least now in the NIL/transfer portal era. For me, it’s less about things like grad rates, which are so misleading, and definitely more about ON-field performance and whether or not your football program is at least generating some semblance of revenue for your school (and the non-revenue sports, specifically). Look at the stadium on game days…is it full or empty, because short of having a roster full of Keatons, McManus’, Fensters, Hockney’s and Verbal Kint’s, we as fans really have no idea about the “culture” of a program behind the closed doors of the locker room, beyond what we see on the field. How is Texas an unhealthy program while Cal is not, especially given the number of undergraduate players leaving the Cal program each year? Every team in the country has it’s share of bad actors off the field.
Utah’s win at Wazzu in October despite missing a number of key starters hammered this point home for me, IMO. Earlier in the month, Cal was basically non-competitive on the Palouse, and followed up their BYE week a few weeks later with a road loss to the worst P5 team in the entire country for the second consecutive season. That’s the sign of a poorly coached football team that lacks leadership. Contrast that to Whittingham’s program, which went on the road to a hostile territory and won a game with a backup QB, RB and multiple starters in the trenches. 6 years of evidence says there’s absolutely no way Justin Wilcox does that. As a man, Wilcox seems like a nice dude from a good football family…as a head football coach, though, things look a little different. We’ll get plenty of time to judge him, though - with that extension, he’s not going anywhere for years.
I can’t believe Kai didn’t know about Plummer. Kai has the starting job starring him right in his face. This kid has talent, Wilcox get him to stay!
There may not be a more dangerous job than starting QB behind Cal’s OL. He might just not want any part of that. And I have to imagine that’s making it a tough sell to transfers too.
The Faraudo article doesn’t make it seem like Millner has much contact with or interest in Cal. Unless something else happened after that, it seems very unlikely he will return.
You know it!
I read elsewhere that Plummer dragged his decision over whether to return to the point that the coaches chose to move on--and then Plummer expressed a willingness to return after Spavital's arrival. That, of course, likely led to Millner's sense of uncertainty and decision to transfer as well.
Which begs the question as to why the staff chose to go top down and engage Plummer first without concerning itself with Millner's status at the same time. You'd think that Wilcox, at this point, had learned multitasking.
Wilcox runs a disorganized, unhealthy program. That much is clear on Saturday’s.
I would call unhealthy a bit of a stretch
Call it what you want, but Wilcox is an incompetent boob. He has been given an unbelievable benefit of the doubt because he is a good looking man who looks great in Cal gear and comes across as a man of principle. But he has no idea on how to administer a successful Pac 5 football program and keeps showing it in ways that should be obvious to everyone. I just spent about 10 minutes researching the staff that Troy Taylor has put together at Stanford and how he is approaching his new gig. No more easy Big Game wins for you, Justin.
totally your prerogative to think that way about things that are happening on the field (I'm largely in a similar train of thought). Just couldnt get on board with an unhealthy description, as I associate that with off the field and locker room issues.
Just looked up. Bob Gregory joins them as ST coordinator and somehow Pete Alamar is still there.
And a bunch of Wisconsin dudes that know how to coach up 3-stars to Top 10 defenses. Believe me, Taylor is going to serve up some magic on the offensive side of the ball. I believe Gregory was Tedford's OC in the glory days. I have loved TT from the first time I saw him throw a pass at Cal. Actually, I saw him play in the Sacramento high school championship game when he was playing for Rancho Cordova. A complete winner and someone I will root for even though he is now wearing red colors.
You mean DC.
But yeah some nice staff. I want him to succeed but I don't want to at the same time.
The frustrating thing is that 4 programs were basically disasters last year in the Conference (Furd, Colorado, ASU and Cal), and 3 of them made solid new hires.
Cal is basically in somewhat of a free fall with Wilcox, and next year’s schedule is a doozy…2024 is probably a make it or break it, but with that guaranteed contract, not sure he is going anywhere. We’re probably stuck with him.
Spav’s track record of putting up at least competent college offenses is pretty good. If Bloesch can coach up the OL, maybe improve some technique, and get that unit to something approaching average, the O should be better.
We need an influx of talent at the quarterback position…if Chandler Rogers is in fact the guy, Cal likely has the worst QB room in the P12 because its such a strong position for the Conference…tough to win games that way. Would love Justyn Martin…fear it’s a pipe dream.
Respectfully, TD, do healthy programs lose at Arizona and Colorado the past two years? We should’ve won both of those.
The number of guys to enter the portal could also be taken as a bad sign.
I attribute a healthy program as one that has a strong culture that also cultivates men and women of leadership off the field. If you want to say the program is underachieving and needs an overhaul, by all means go ahead since there's ample evidence.
I put unhealthy in an off the field category. Texas is an unhealthy program. Whether they are winners is a different discussion. ASU for now is unhealthy. Cal in my opinion is not unhealthy. Hope this clears things up.
That makes sense - totally get where you’re coming from.…guess we just have a difference of opinion on what constitutes a healthy football program, at least now in the NIL/transfer portal era. For me, it’s less about things like grad rates, which are so misleading, and definitely more about ON-field performance and whether or not your football program is at least generating some semblance of revenue for your school (and the non-revenue sports, specifically). Look at the stadium on game days…is it full or empty, because short of having a roster full of Keatons, McManus’, Fensters, Hockney’s and Verbal Kint’s, we as fans really have no idea about the “culture” of a program behind the closed doors of the locker room, beyond what we see on the field. How is Texas an unhealthy program while Cal is not, especially given the number of undergraduate players leaving the Cal program each year? Every team in the country has it’s share of bad actors off the field.
Utah’s win at Wazzu in October despite missing a number of key starters hammered this point home for me, IMO. Earlier in the month, Cal was basically non-competitive on the Palouse, and followed up their BYE week a few weeks later with a road loss to the worst P5 team in the entire country for the second consecutive season. That’s the sign of a poorly coached football team that lacks leadership. Contrast that to Whittingham’s program, which went on the road to a hostile territory and won a game with a backup QB, RB and multiple starters in the trenches. 6 years of evidence says there’s absolutely no way Justin Wilcox does that. As a man, Wilcox seems like a nice dude from a good football family…as a head football coach, though, things look a little different. We’ll get plenty of time to judge him, though - with that extension, he’s not going anywhere for years.