Should've been California Berkeley. There are simply too many people who think Berkeley is part of the cal state system. And Cal has no meaning outside of the US or even California.
Should've been California Berkeley. There are simply too many people who think Berkeley is part of the cal state system. And Cal has no meaning outside of the US or even California.
Similarly, outside of college sports fans who know the two entities, who really stops to acknowledge the different systems in which Arizona and ASU operate, Michigan and Michigan State operate or North Carolina and NC State operate? People who care to learn about it can do so, and thatтАЩs fine. Interesting that Auburn is a public state school in Alabama and Rutgers is a public state school in New Jersey. Do their names have more heft because of the single word moniker they use? I could see that argument. Interesting to learn about. But, it seems when we get in the practice of comparing ourselves to other institutions, we sometimes would do well to realize that everything the University of California, Berkeley uniquely encompasses makes our multiple and varied naming ways not such a bad fit. If folks either 1.) envy a special naming custom used by the тАЬprestigiousтАЭ Ivy League/most private schools (and therefore want to just call themselves тАЬBerkeleyтАЭ) because it seems more prestigious or 2.) you believe itтАЩs a good idea to officially change the athletic name to incorporate the Berkeley name so you are more widely understood when you say тАЬI went to BerkeleyтАЭ), I get it. But, I donтАЩt agree itтАЩs a reason to change the athletic branding. The University of California or Cal (for short) is its own thing thatтАЩs hella special and wonderful. Leave it alone. Go Bears! (or, will that be changed too, because some people are tired of explaining to people in the Midwest that theyтАЩre not referring to the Chicago Bears).
Should've been California Berkeley. There are simply too many people who think Berkeley is part of the cal state system. And Cal has no meaning outside of the US or even California.
Never met anyone that associated Berkeley with a Cal State campus.
I've met many.
say Cal in LA and theyтАЩll ask you which cal state
I have lived in socal for 30 + years. I have never heard that. Maybe it depends on the circles within which one associates.
> There are simply too many people who think Berkeley is part of the cal state system
This is blatantly false. Everybody knows Berkeley is a UC. Now for the number of people who think "Cal" is part of the Cal State system...
News flash: Most people outside the Cal University and Cal State systems do not know there is a difference, much less what it is. Fewer care.
Similarly, outside of college sports fans who know the two entities, who really stops to acknowledge the different systems in which Arizona and ASU operate, Michigan and Michigan State operate or North Carolina and NC State operate? People who care to learn about it can do so, and thatтАЩs fine. Interesting that Auburn is a public state school in Alabama and Rutgers is a public state school in New Jersey. Do their names have more heft because of the single word moniker they use? I could see that argument. Interesting to learn about. But, it seems when we get in the practice of comparing ourselves to other institutions, we sometimes would do well to realize that everything the University of California, Berkeley uniquely encompasses makes our multiple and varied naming ways not such a bad fit. If folks either 1.) envy a special naming custom used by the тАЬprestigiousтАЭ Ivy League/most private schools (and therefore want to just call themselves тАЬBerkeleyтАЭ) because it seems more prestigious or 2.) you believe itтАЩs a good idea to officially change the athletic name to incorporate the Berkeley name so you are more widely understood when you say тАЬI went to BerkeleyтАЭ), I get it. But, I donтАЩt agree itтАЩs a reason to change the athletic branding. The University of California or Cal (for short) is its own thing thatтАЩs hella special and wonderful. Leave it alone. Go Bears! (or, will that be changed too, because some people are tired of explaining to people in the Midwest that theyтАЩre not referring to the Chicago Bears).