Regarding Marshawn calling out the fans for not showing up - if it is a worthwhile product on the field fans will pay for it. It's a chicken or the egg problem. Alternative thought: maybe Cal should open up the empty parts of the stadium and offer free admission. That way when the cameras pan the stands it won't look so empty. Since the majority of the money generated for the program comes from TV revenue (and indirectly supports the non-revenue "championship" sports) why not give it a try? Thoughts?
Cal is 1-8 in 1 score games the last 2 seasons. This is unusually bad luck. I agree with getting rid of Musgrave, but I think getting rid of Wilcox would be a bad move.
I’ll say this after watching the Sac State/Montana game. I didn’t realize Troy Taylor was only in his third season. He took a middling FCS program at a commuter school with little to no historical tradition and made them nationally relevant his first season, going to the FCS playoffs for the first time in program history. In Season 2 they won the Big Sky going undefeated in conference play and made it to round 2 of the playoffs. Now they’re 7-0 for the first time ever. That’s significant because it means he’s doing it largely with other people’s players, and doing it with inferior talent to players probably found at historically successful FCS powerhouses. I don’t know if what he’s doing will work in FBS, but that tells me he knows how to coach up what he has vs producing middling results in a never ending rebuild project. His teams are fun to watch too.
I would be very curious to listen in on conversations that Wilcox and Musgrave have about Cal's offense. I would imagine more insightful conversations happen between 1st graders. This offense is so bad that even when we have multiple good skill position players (Ott, Sturdivant, Hunter, Anderson) it looks completely incompetent. I would not blame any of the four guys mentioned above for entering the transfer portal, while I would like them to stay, I can also sympathize with wanting to be in an offense that properly schemes for them. I would say fire Wilcox, but we all know with Knowlton still as AD we will end up with the Marx Fox of football, which is even worse than Wilcox. Need a new AD before football can even have hopes of being a middling team that can go 6-6 and make low level bowl games.
I'm wondering if the more hysterically freaked out Cal fans on this board started as Cal fans during the Tedford era. Those of us who were fans in the 90s or before have seen far worse than this and have a little perspective. What you think folks? Does the vintage of your Cal fandom affect your current level of horror?
Well the offense finally showed up in the 2nd half after being MIA for the last 10 quarters. It was nice to see signs of offensive type substance at Memorial tonight, to bad it was too little, too late.
Defense did well enough playing BBDB in the first half but Uw made adjustments and was able to convert drives to TDs in the 2nd half.
I know Musgrave and Angus will be here next week and the rest of the season. I also know they won’t be here next season.
I don’t know if Wilcox will get his 3rd OC and OL hires right but I also know that even if he doesn’t, Wilcox will be here throughout 2025 regardless if he does get it right or wrong.
Wilcox will be at Cal for a long, long time regardless of his conference and overall W/L record all because he “gets Cal”, is a nice guy and turned down Oregon.
remember when they outnumbered us on the short side of the field, our safety saw it, we called a timeout to talk about it, then didn't change anything and gave up a TD anyways
Honestly? It's better that we lose out this year. Bottoming out seems to be the only thing that convinces the Cal administration that major changes are needed.
SEEMS LIKE CAL HAD FIFTEEN MEN ON THE FIELD..VIZ. ELEVEN WITH HELMITS PLUS FOUR OFFICALS WHO PENALIZED WASHINGTON ENOUGH TO KEEP CAL IN THE GAME. GERBEAR
The highlight of the game was Marshawn Lynch and his return to the cart for a ride around Memorial Stadium. Gained more yards than Cal’s rushing game.
Another week, another loss to a better coached team.
Regarding Marshawn calling out the fans for not showing up - if it is a worthwhile product on the field fans will pay for it. It's a chicken or the egg problem. Alternative thought: maybe Cal should open up the empty parts of the stadium and offer free admission. That way when the cameras pan the stands it won't look so empty. Since the majority of the money generated for the program comes from TV revenue (and indirectly supports the non-revenue "championship" sports) why not give it a try? Thoughts?
Surprised at the score, not surprised at the result.
Didn’t watch, didn’t care.
Apathy has set in and if Cal starts to lose long-time, (former) diehards like me, the program is in trouble.
Probably not too many wide shots of the stands.
Cal is 1-8 in 1 score games the last 2 seasons. This is unusually bad luck. I agree with getting rid of Musgrave, but I think getting rid of Wilcox would be a bad move.
I’ll say this after watching the Sac State/Montana game. I didn’t realize Troy Taylor was only in his third season. He took a middling FCS program at a commuter school with little to no historical tradition and made them nationally relevant his first season, going to the FCS playoffs for the first time in program history. In Season 2 they won the Big Sky going undefeated in conference play and made it to round 2 of the playoffs. Now they’re 7-0 for the first time ever. That’s significant because it means he’s doing it largely with other people’s players, and doing it with inferior talent to players probably found at historically successful FCS powerhouses. I don’t know if what he’s doing will work in FBS, but that tells me he knows how to coach up what he has vs producing middling results in a never ending rebuild project. His teams are fun to watch too.
We are not just bad, we are boring and bad. Tough to fill the stands with that combo.
I would be very curious to listen in on conversations that Wilcox and Musgrave have about Cal's offense. I would imagine more insightful conversations happen between 1st graders. This offense is so bad that even when we have multiple good skill position players (Ott, Sturdivant, Hunter, Anderson) it looks completely incompetent. I would not blame any of the four guys mentioned above for entering the transfer portal, while I would like them to stay, I can also sympathize with wanting to be in an offense that properly schemes for them. I would say fire Wilcox, but we all know with Knowlton still as AD we will end up with the Marx Fox of football, which is even worse than Wilcox. Need a new AD before football can even have hopes of being a middling team that can go 6-6 and make low level bowl games.
I'm wondering if the more hysterically freaked out Cal fans on this board started as Cal fans during the Tedford era. Those of us who were fans in the 90s or before have seen far worse than this and have a little perspective. What you think folks? Does the vintage of your Cal fandom affect your current level of horror?
Well the offense finally showed up in the 2nd half after being MIA for the last 10 quarters. It was nice to see signs of offensive type substance at Memorial tonight, to bad it was too little, too late.
Defense did well enough playing BBDB in the first half but Uw made adjustments and was able to convert drives to TDs in the 2nd half.
I know Musgrave and Angus will be here next week and the rest of the season. I also know they won’t be here next season.
I don’t know if Wilcox will get his 3rd OC and OL hires right but I also know that even if he doesn’t, Wilcox will be here throughout 2025 regardless if he does get it right or wrong.
Wilcox will be at Cal for a long, long time regardless of his conference and overall W/L record all because he “gets Cal”, is a nice guy and turned down Oregon.
remember when they outnumbered us on the short side of the field, our safety saw it, we called a timeout to talk about it, then didn't change anything and gave up a TD anyways
IS IT POSSIBLE WILCOX'S MAIN FAILURE IS LACK OF RECRUITING EFFECTIVELY OR EFFICIENTLY. AT LEAST HE SUFFERS AS MUCH AS WE DO! GERBEAR
Honestly? It's better that we lose out this year. Bottoming out seems to be the only thing that convinces the Cal administration that major changes are needed.
Wilcox now has losses to the following coaches this season:
1. Interim head coach (Colorado)
1. First year head coach (Notre Dame)
2. First year Pac12 coaches (WSU* & UW)
I expect him to lose to another 1st year HC when we play Oregon and he loses to Lanning.
He will also lose to another 1st year Pac12 coach when we play USC and loses to Riley.
Wilcox is running out of Pac12 coaches he can beat, despite being the 3rd longest tenured Pac12 coach.
*WSU HC was their interim coach last season when he beat Wilcox so this isn’t his first year with HC experience.
Cal just isn't built to win shootouts. Or what passes for a shootout when Cal is involved.
SEEMS LIKE CAL HAD FIFTEEN MEN ON THE FIELD..VIZ. ELEVEN WITH HELMITS PLUS FOUR OFFICALS WHO PENALIZED WASHINGTON ENOUGH TO KEEP CAL IN THE GAME. GERBEAR