Charbonet has way more experience. He is bigger and stronger than Ott and is actually a different type of RB. Ott is faster then Charbonet but Charbonet has plenty of speed, and he's a load and not scared of contact.
I go by the film. What the stats don't show are missed blocks by TE's, or 5, 6 and 7 man defensive fronts that bring pressure in overwhelming numbers, a lot of which has to do with down and distance situations. Stats don't show delayed blitzes or outside speed rushers lined up way outside where the OT cannot effectively get to them. Plummer must make these reads.
You can't run into a stacked box and you can't throw a deep ball against an o-line being rushed by superior numbers. Against 4 down and a 6 man box, our o-line has been serviceable. Plummer takes part of the blame as well. The film tells all.
TE's don't count as O-Line blocking, but they do count in overall blocking stats. Against AZ our TE's blocked great. Latu was great against AZ but he was not very good against WASU. Terry was ok against AZ but played better than Latu against WASU. Our bubble screens and receiver blocking was atrocious. Either we just aren't physical enough or we need more experience. Our O-line frequently overruns 2nd level blocks. That's all about understanding plays and getting practice reps, but they need to be full go, physical practice reps; its the only way to really learn. Scheme is part of the offensive plan. A RB coach should not be telling O-Linemen how to scheme blocks just like an O-line coach should not be telling a RB where to line up, mesh and make his reads. (Although the coach who invented the Zone Read play, Alex Gibbs, was the o-line coach for the Denver Broncos at the time and he did work with RB's on the mesh for the read.
When I look at film I see a lot of fundamental issues, mostly little things that add up. When I see the types of problems we are having my first thought is that we are not giving our guys enough QUALITY reps practicing fundamentals. I haven't watched CAL practice but if it were me I would be taking our O-Line back to the basics. I would have them duck walk the chutes everyday before practice. I would have them practice finish drills on the sleds which teaches them to go to the whistle I would have them go through full contact blocking drills on Tuesdays, Wednesdays (and Thursdays if necessary). I'd have them go through full contact LB blocking drills every day. I would work the shit out of their pad levels and ass positions and overall body position on the respective blocks they are supposed to be making. I would work them in full contact pass pro every day and teach them how to 'cheat'. I would run high speed recognition drills every day (these don't need to be full contact but they do need to force recognition for primary and secondary blocking assignments, how to pass off a block, how to chip, how to recognize delayed blitzes and step down and in to stuff them while maintaining a block on the outside guy. There are a ton of little things that we are not doing well and they all add up. Vatikani had a real bad day against WASU, but I would expect that because he's a freshman. In any event, all this stuff can be solved with good teaching, good drills, and good practice reps. But the coach has to be able to make it happen. The last thing I will say is that too often the OC will tell the O-Line coach what he wants to happen on each play. Most O-line coaches just nod their heads and say OK, even if they can't deliver, as they don't want to tell their OC that they can't get it done. My last two years of coaching we went to a spread offense and I told the OC what we we could and could not do based on our talent and abilities. He did not want to hear it at first. After losing our first two games he listened. I made adjustments, the QB had his read responsibilities changed and we lost one more game and then did not lose for the rest of the season. We won our conference championship and a bowl game and my big uglies were the centerpiece of our success and everyone on the team knew it. They were great kids I within their capabilities I got them to play really good, really nasty football until the whistle blew. We owned the box and got really really good at pass pro.
I can't say that's the case at CAL right now, but it seems to me we need to simplify some stuff and force Plummer to make smart plays.
Surprised no one from DBD has popped in to copy and paste some complaints about Musgrave's play calling with an undermanned offense yet. I'm sure some Old Blue somewhere expected Cal to have a bigger lead on BYE by now.
Really would love to chill with Wilcox some time and get the real reason why he turned Oregon down…from a play design standpoint and schematically, their offensive culture is light years ahead of Cal…it remains a baffling turn of events. Wonder what is the actual reason, and not some speculation by the Wilcox fans.
Maybe he never turned it down? And his agent made up a story?
And Oregon doesn't care enough to go out of their way to deny it, or it was probably better off that way because there were certain donor voices who wanted Wilcox hired at Oregon, and the story worked out because AD didn't have to offer Wilcox at all.
That Incarnate Word HC turned Wazzu OC is a game planning/play calling whiz for the Cougs. It’s easier when you’ve got an NFL player that he knows under center, for sure, but still - these calls keep D’s so off balance…that Cal L on the Palouse is so on the Bears O…the D kept them in it.
TRESHAUN HARRISON 58 YARDS TO THE HOUSE AND THE BEAVS ARE ON TOP 28-27 with 14 SECS TO GO.
Off the defender's helmet. Pac-12 After Dark delivers again!
Actually, (only) a 56 yard play. But there was even less time left afterwards, just 13 seconds. Still just as exciting.
Oregon State wins 28-27. Are you kidding.
OSU will get the ball down 27-22 with 58 seconds and no timeouts
The UCLA attendance is like a Cal game. And two top 20 teams!
Kalifornia college kids no longer seem to care about football.
Agree. I live in a school district that sends 20-30 kids to Cal every year, and they are, for the most part, openly contemptuous of football.
That's notably more emotion about the subject than most have.
That’s a problem
Charbonet has way more experience. He is bigger and stronger than Ott and is actually a different type of RB. Ott is faster then Charbonet but Charbonet has plenty of speed, and he's a load and not scared of contact.
Charbonet is the best RB in the conference. Big and fast.
I go by the film. What the stats don't show are missed blocks by TE's, or 5, 6 and 7 man defensive fronts that bring pressure in overwhelming numbers, a lot of which has to do with down and distance situations. Stats don't show delayed blitzes or outside speed rushers lined up way outside where the OT cannot effectively get to them. Plummer must make these reads.
You can't run into a stacked box and you can't throw a deep ball against an o-line being rushed by superior numbers. Against 4 down and a 6 man box, our o-line has been serviceable. Plummer takes part of the blame as well. The film tells all.
TE's don't count as O-Line blocking, but they do count in overall blocking stats. Against AZ our TE's blocked great. Latu was great against AZ but he was not very good against WASU. Terry was ok against AZ but played better than Latu against WASU. Our bubble screens and receiver blocking was atrocious. Either we just aren't physical enough or we need more experience. Our O-line frequently overruns 2nd level blocks. That's all about understanding plays and getting practice reps, but they need to be full go, physical practice reps; its the only way to really learn. Scheme is part of the offensive plan. A RB coach should not be telling O-Linemen how to scheme blocks just like an O-line coach should not be telling a RB where to line up, mesh and make his reads. (Although the coach who invented the Zone Read play, Alex Gibbs, was the o-line coach for the Denver Broncos at the time and he did work with RB's on the mesh for the read.
When I look at film I see a lot of fundamental issues, mostly little things that add up. When I see the types of problems we are having my first thought is that we are not giving our guys enough QUALITY reps practicing fundamentals. I haven't watched CAL practice but if it were me I would be taking our O-Line back to the basics. I would have them duck walk the chutes everyday before practice. I would have them practice finish drills on the sleds which teaches them to go to the whistle I would have them go through full contact blocking drills on Tuesdays, Wednesdays (and Thursdays if necessary). I'd have them go through full contact LB blocking drills every day. I would work the shit out of their pad levels and ass positions and overall body position on the respective blocks they are supposed to be making. I would work them in full contact pass pro every day and teach them how to 'cheat'. I would run high speed recognition drills every day (these don't need to be full contact but they do need to force recognition for primary and secondary blocking assignments, how to pass off a block, how to chip, how to recognize delayed blitzes and step down and in to stuff them while maintaining a block on the outside guy. There are a ton of little things that we are not doing well and they all add up. Vatikani had a real bad day against WASU, but I would expect that because he's a freshman. In any event, all this stuff can be solved with good teaching, good drills, and good practice reps. But the coach has to be able to make it happen. The last thing I will say is that too often the OC will tell the O-Line coach what he wants to happen on each play. Most O-line coaches just nod their heads and say OK, even if they can't deliver, as they don't want to tell their OC that they can't get it done. My last two years of coaching we went to a spread offense and I told the OC what we we could and could not do based on our talent and abilities. He did not want to hear it at first. After losing our first two games he listened. I made adjustments, the QB had his read responsibilities changed and we lost one more game and then did not lose for the rest of the season. We won our conference championship and a bowl game and my big uglies were the centerpiece of our success and everyone on the team knew it. They were great kids I within their capabilities I got them to play really good, really nasty football until the whistle blew. We owned the box and got really really good at pass pro.
I can't say that's the case at CAL right now, but it seems to me we need to simplify some stuff and force Plummer to make smart plays.
A lot of the Rose Bowl is tarped off. Maybe 40000 in the stands, probably less.
Surprised no one from DBD has popped in to copy and paste some complaints about Musgrave's play calling with an undermanned offense yet. I'm sure some Old Blue somewhere expected Cal to have a bigger lead on BYE by now.
It was a Wilcox blowout of BYE, 24-13.
BYE doesn’t wrap up well…Cal’s O-line is once again a leading tackler of the Bears ball carriers…kinda like at Wazzu.…
What happened to furd? Is Shaw burned out? Seems like they still recruit really well, but they suck.
Like Tedford, he just declined and failed to really adapt the program or hire good coordinators.
His OL has managed to road grade on this final drive and put a big 3 up on the scoreboard.
Cal would’ve gone 3 & out with predictable running plays, punted, and given the ball back to Oregon St with plenty of time left. Turtle time.
Dumb pick 6 for DTR
Oregon St had already proven the folly of throwing at Clarke Phillips III. DTR throwback moment on an otherwise masterful afternoon.
I am not even sure why UCLA was even throwing on that down.
Looks like USC and UCLA are the top 2 teams in the conference.
I think their offense is strong enough to make up for any deficiencies on defense.
There’s not a ton of teams with an O good enough to keep pace.
Mirrors that are the best in the country at takeaways.
Chip Kelly looks like a pink lizard
He is pink.
Conference of Cannibalism…
Usually is, though the Cougs would disagree in the aftermath of a couple of their games against ranked opponents lately.
Sure, tho that’s a program that has made a new class of gaggin’ it!!! Cougin’ it!!
Jimbo with a Musgrave type offensive play call to end the Bama - aTm game. That play has no chance of scoring.
Zero chance. No imagination whatsoever…you’re not going to beat Bama in Tuscaloosa on a quick out to the short side.
Not if its short of the minimum mandatory distance to gain on said play.
Seriously. I get going to Stewart, your WR1, on the play…but that one never stood a chance.
SDSU - Hawaii is looking ugly.
Illinois - Iowa was a snooze fest.
Really would love to chill with Wilcox some time and get the real reason why he turned Oregon down…from a play design standpoint and schematically, their offensive culture is light years ahead of Cal…it remains a baffling turn of events. Wonder what is the actual reason, and not some speculation by the Wilcox fans.
Maybe he never turned it down? And his agent made up a story?
And Oregon doesn't care enough to go out of their way to deny it, or it was probably better off that way because there were certain donor voices who wanted Wilcox hired at Oregon, and the story worked out because AD didn't have to offer Wilcox at all.
This how I always felt it went down. Interested in and an actual offer are two very different things.
I can’t believe that WSU OL just got called for targeting while throwing a block. That’s a bit ridiculous.
Cam Ward is the type of talent tho that can give this USC D fits…and he is.
Most chaotic QB I've seen in awhile. It's like he's playing backyard football out there.
He still owes them two interceptions, though.
True…and they will come.
Also, that OL continues to give him time to make a sandwich in the backfield.
Welp, the better Wazzou plays the better we look.
That Incarnate Word HC turned Wazzu OC is a game planning/play calling whiz for the Cougs. It’s easier when you’ve got an NFL player that he knows under center, for sure, but still - these calls keep D’s so off balance…that Cal L on the Palouse is so on the Bears O…the D kept them in it.