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What’s the busiest/biggest concert you’ve been to?
The above is In around 1.6 million people for the 1991 “Monsters of Rock” concert in Moscow. The Black Crowes, AC/DC, Metallica, Motley Crue, and Queensryche performed.
I have seen four of the five bands from Monters of Rock: Metallica, AD/DC, Motley Crue, and Queensryche. I am lucky to have a sister 9 years older than me that was into Heavy Metal. I saw all of these bands plus Ozzy, GNR, and Judas Priest in the Eighties and early Nineties!
My second concert was a Day of the Green featuring the Scorpions, Ratt, Y&T, Metallica and Yngwie Malmstein. It's pretty strange to think the Scorps could fill not only an arena, but a stadium. Metallica were relatively unknown. It was a coming out party for them. They of course leveled the rest of the bill. Everything changed after that show.
Of all the heavy metal bands I saw, I never got to see Iron Maiden. I have no inclination to see any of these bands now out their heyday, as they just aren't culturally relevant to me anymore. However, if I had a time machine, I would teleport to an Iron Maiden show in the Eighties.
I saw Iron Maiden open for Scorps at oakland arena in late 82/early 83. Maybe a year later. Number of the Beast and Breakout (Blackout?), respectively.
I've heard about that theory. Not sure I buy it, but I guess I should listen first! But it's pretty strange to imagine just how incredibly successful that band was outside their homeland during the first half or so of the eighties. I think I may have seen them headline at the Coliseum twice even.
Probably the Who at the Coliseum in LA in 1989, a strong contender for the worst concert I’ve ever attended. Second place is probably Love & Rockets and the Cure at Dodger Stadium which was visually very funny (and a surprisingly good show)
i volunteered to be an usher w/ another friend. we had to work for a few hours before the show getting people to their seats. otherwise enjoyed a spectacular concert and a rare slice of history.
the locals were not too happy w/ the crowds and the noise. i heard that there was a special exception made for McCartney and probably no more concerts ever again - not sure about that though.
the best part of the concert was the 80k sing-a-long to Hey Jude w/ the lights turned off and everyone with cigarette lighters for little flames, well before the mobile phone era.
Stockton CA had enough of late night side shows (ie, take over of an area to do races, donuts, etcs). The bring the hammer down and confiscate 88 cars.
[NYT] RNC Chair McDaniel looks like she will preside over a fantastic term where she sold her soul to allow MAGA to grift the party, bankrupted numerous state GOP organizations, lost a ton of ground in elections, and pissed off her uncle. In the end, it looks like she is being rewarded for her loyalty with getting cast aside. Atta girl.
The Russian figure-skater who got caught doping. Her defense apparently was "my grandfather accidentally crushed up his heart medication and put it in my strawberry dessert"
Blake Tekotte had 15 hits and 4 stolen bases with the Padres and White Sox from 2011 through 2013, but his latest hits and swipes were in November 2023.
I don't understand the A's at all. It has been clear from the get go that they didn't generate support in LV before announcing the move. I don't know how they think LV is going to make more money than being in Oakland either.
The owners must be getting an astounding amount of money from Vegas casinos, etc…it is the ONLY explanation for them and their idiot Manfred pushing this so hard, as it promises to be an unmitigated disaster. No one in Vegas gives a shit about the A’s. An expansion team would have such a better shot.
But it doesn't make sense to put a stadium on a site that is too small on The Strip. LV's mayor said the A's were offered a 60-acre site (!) near downtown LV and they turned it down. The Strip should be rejected out of hand for two reasons: (1) it's hard to get to due to traffic congestion and (2) the site is too small for a domed stadium. Those are insurmountable problems, or should be.
All of which suggests that LV is being used as leverage, except that Fisher and Kaval have royally botched their opportunities from start to finish. A big part of this is that Fisher and Kaval have an unlimited supply of arrogance; they don't learn from their past mistakes.
If I had Fisher's bankroll and control of the A's, I'd keep them in the Bayy Area, without a doubt. But I'd try to quietly put together three sites, knowing that two is probably enough and that one is all that is needed.
The ace up the sleeve should be the Oakland Coliseum site because it has great access by public transit (BART), automobile (two different exits off of I-880), plentiful parking, and a long history in Oakland.
Rebuild there. Play at the Coliseum while the new stadium is being built either to the south or north of the current site. When that building is done, demolish the old Coliseum.
Attempt to find a different site between Oakland and San Jose and in proximity to BART or between Oakland and Albany.
Golden Gate Fields is probably not feasible because most of that area is on unconsolidated soil, which would liquefy in a major shaker. Dozens of piles would have to be driven to bedrock to support a stadium to withstand seismic loads.
More than a decade ago, Lew Wolff wanted to build in Fremont, but that fell apart for reasons that aren't clear to me.
You might be able to piece together enough land in Emeryville to make a large enough site, but you'd have a transportation problem. So, that's probably not feasible, either.
The problem is that Fisher wants to make a huge killing in real estate at the same time he builds a new ballpark. The Howard Terminal project is a manifestation of that desire. Fisher doesn't have a community-based bone in his body.
Yeah, that's the thing. LV doesn't need the A's. They're getting an expansion franchise regardless. If you're an LV resident, why would you want this broke ass, third world franchise when you can wait a beat or two longer and get a franchise with a competent and wealthy ownership group? The other owners are getting scratch either way. I just take their support as a vote for them to protect their own right to do whatever they want.
Exactly. It’s why Vegas citing the Golden Knights as an example they’re ready to contend is just silly. That was an expansion team that had unprecedented access to an elite NHL talent-pool as well - they were handed immediate credibility through instant-contention because the League gave them access to game-changing talent via the expansion draft.
Now you got a city whose locals root for LA, Arizona, Colorado, or the Cubs, etc, They will not support Fisher and the A’s…no chance.
Yeah, especially the Dodgers in their current Yankees free agent domination-like construction. It's going to be especially difficult to compete with them in their backyard in the near future popularity wise.
National Signing Day is Wednesday and Cal's coverage will be highlighted by Travers Family Head Football Coach Justin Wilcox discussing the Golden Bears' 2024 recruiting class during a press conference via Zoom at 8:30 a.m. PT. The press conference will be recorded and published shortly after its conclusion to Cal's social media channels, CalBears.com and the Cal Athletics YouTube channel.
The California baseball program participated in the 2024 Bay Area Baseball Media Day virtually Tuesday morning. The Golden Bears were represented by head coach Mike Neu and juniors Caleb Lomavita and Rodney Green Jr.
The trio met with attending media and previewed the upcoming 2024 season, which begins Friday, Feb. 16, against Kansas State at the 2024 Desert Invitational in Scottsdale, Arizona.
The California softball team opens the 2024 season with a trip to Louisiana and an Opening Day Thursday tilt at McNeese before heading to Lafayette for the Louisiana Classics over the weekend.
The Golden Bears face the Cowgirls at 4 p.m. PT on Thursday in Lake Charles and open play in Lafayette on Friday with a 9 a.m. PT first pitch vs. Chattanooga, before facing host and No. 21-ranked Louisiana at 11:30 a.m. PT. Cal has another doubleheader on Saturday against Chattanooga (11:30 a.m. PT) and New Mexico (2 p.m. PT), then wraps up opening-weekend action vs. the Ragin' Cajuns at 9 a.m. PT on Sunday. The two games against Louisiana will be the only matchups of the weekend available via live stream on ESPN+.
Junior swimmer Jack Alexy and freshman diver Geoffrey Vavitsas were named the Pac-12 Swimmer and Diver of the Week, respectively, the conference office announced Tuesday. It is the first weekly conference award earned by both athletes.
Alexy, the native of Mendham, New Jersey, won all four events he competed in, helping the Golden Bears defeat host USC last Friday in Los Angeles. In his two individual event wins in the 50- and 100-yard freestyle, he edged out teammate Bjorn Seeliger with times of 19.30 and 41.94.
California baseball junior catcher Caleb Lomavita was named to the Baseball America Preseason All-America Second Team on Monday afternoon.
Lomavita was one of three catchers named to the publication's three preseason All-America teams. It is the first preseason All-America honor for the native of Ewa Beach, Hawaii.
BERKELEY – Bill McClintock, a 2021 California Athletics Hall of Fame inductee and member of the Golden Bears' 1959 NCAA championship squad and 1960 NCAA runner-up team, is the 2023-24 recipient of the Pete Newell Career Achievement Award. McClintock will be honored during Cal's home game against UCLA on Saturday, which will serve as the Pete Newell Classic.
PETA: Would someone please consider the feelings of the fake animals?
https://www.ksn.com/news/local/peta-targets-wichita-company-over-carousels/
Big Concert
The Rolling Stones at Candlestick. Too many Days on the Green to count. Jay Z in Hyde Park.
Oh, Madonna at Wembley (she was TERRIBLE).
Rammstein at Parc Jean Drapeau in Montreal.
50,000 people in the mud from a gnarly thunderstorm late afternoon that day.
I have seen four of the five bands from Monters of Rock: Metallica, AD/DC, Motley Crue, and Queensryche. I am lucky to have a sister 9 years older than me that was into Heavy Metal. I saw all of these bands plus Ozzy, GNR, and Judas Priest in the Eighties and early Nineties!
Too many Grateful Dead shows to count...over 50 I believe, all within the last three years prior to Jerry's death.
this is among my musical and life experience regrets that i did participate when i had the chance.
U2 Zoo TV Tour at the Coliseum. Opening acts were The Sugarcubes (lead singer Bjork) and Public Enemy.
My second concert was a Day of the Green featuring the Scorpions, Ratt, Y&T, Metallica and Yngwie Malmstein. It's pretty strange to think the Scorps could fill not only an arena, but a stadium. Metallica were relatively unknown. It was a coming out party for them. They of course leveled the rest of the bill. Everything changed after that show.
I went to a DOtG with the Scorpions, Iron Maiden, Foreigner and Loverboy. Maybe 1981 or 82?
Of all the heavy metal bands I saw, I never got to see Iron Maiden. I have no inclination to see any of these bands now out their heyday, as they just aren't culturally relevant to me anymore. However, if I had a time machine, I would teleport to an Iron Maiden show in the Eighties.
Ok, back as MoriBear (OskiDubs is my DNHQ handle).
My DotG was T-Bone Burnett, the Clash, The Who. 1982?
I saw Iron Maiden open for Scorps at oakland arena in late 82/early 83. Maybe a year later. Number of the Beast and Breakout (Blackout?), respectively.
Ozzy and girl school was shortly before that.
Never saw JP, unfortunately.
Who headlined? My first show was Iron Maiden/Twisted Sister at the Cow Place.
I think Foreigner. It was the Juke Box Hero and they had a giant inflatable jukebox on stage.
There's a great podcast about the Scorpions Wind of Change song being written by the CIA. No 2 and I listened to this when we drove to Nashville.
https://crooked.com/podcast-series/wind-of-change/
I've heard about that theory. Not sure I buy it, but I guess I should listen first! But it's pretty strange to imagine just how incredibly successful that band was outside their homeland during the first half or so of the eighties. I think I may have seen them headline at the Coliseum twice even.
Day on the Green at the Coliseum in 87? U2 (Joshua Tree tour), The Pretenders, and someone else I think.
Me too, first big show in college.
Probably the Who at the Coliseum in LA in 1989, a strong contender for the worst concert I’ve ever attended. Second place is probably Love & Rockets and the Cure at Dodger Stadium which was visually very funny (and a surprisingly good show)
Paul McCartney at Memorial Stadium, Apr 1990
i volunteered to be an usher w/ another friend. we had to work for a few hours before the show getting people to their seats. otherwise enjoyed a spectacular concert and a rare slice of history.
the locals were not too happy w/ the crowds and the noise. i heard that there was a special exception made for McCartney and probably no more concerts ever again - not sure about that though.
the best part of the concert was the 80k sing-a-long to Hey Jude w/ the lights turned off and everyone with cigarette lighters for little flames, well before the mobile phone era.
First of all, a baseball is only a few bucks. Secondly, a baseball weighs more than that.
https://news.yahoo.com/baseball-worth-meth-found-during-213005578.html
OUR CRUMBLING DEMOCRACY
Stockton CA had enough of late night side shows (ie, take over of an area to do races, donuts, etcs). The bring the hammer down and confiscate 88 cars.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/stop-calling-over-80-cars-013758715.html
[NYT] RNC Chair McDaniel looks like she will preside over a fantastic term where she sold her soul to allow MAGA to grift the party, bankrupted numerous state GOP organizations, lost a ton of ground in elections, and pissed off her uncle. In the end, it looks like she is being rewarded for her loyalty with getting cast aside. Atta girl.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/politics/ronna-mcdaniel-donald-trump-rnc/index.html
You get fleas when you lie down with dogs.
the dirty dogs
Oh gee that’s a shame
Chuck Schumer tees up multiple Senate votes to force GOP to specifically vote against Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4452862-senate-to-vote-ukraine-funding-without-border-security/
as much as people say the Reps are wasting time .. this is a waste of time too, no?
i think the days are long gone where someone's voting record matters.
I suspect the only real value is for press consumption
60 GOP representatives waste everybody's time tabling a non-binding resolution that declares that up is down
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4451345-gaetz-stefanik-offer-resolution-declaring-trump-did-not-engage-in-insurrection/
Got to keep Papa happy
House fails to impeach Homeland Security Secretary after one GOP member defects on vote and a Democrats shows up in hospital gown fresh from surgery
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4452038-in-stunner-house-gop-bid-to-impeach-mayorkas-fails/
Looks like Anheuser-Busch's check to the Make America Great Again PAC cleared
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4451760-trump-conservatives-should-give-bud-light-second-chance/
Trump owned AB stock back in 2019 so he might be trying to juice it before cashing out to pay his debts and settlements
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The Russian figure-skater who got caught doping. Her defense apparently was "my grandfather accidentally crushed up his heart medication and put it in my strawberry dessert"
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/39477998/kamila-valieva-strawberry-dessert-excuse-rejected-doping-case
mmm dessert
Blake Tekotte had 15 hits and 4 stolen bases with the Padres and White Sox from 2011 through 2013, but his latest hits and swipes were in November 2023.
https://krcgtv.com/news/local/former-mlb-playercharged-with-assault-and-kidnapping-in-columbia-blake-tekotte-chicago-white-sox-san-diego-padres-boone-county-uber
Las Vegas mayor does not roll out red carpet for A's
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39472102/las-vegas-mayor-says-athletics-pitch-new-plan-bay-area
I don't understand the A's at all. It has been clear from the get go that they didn't generate support in LV before announcing the move. I don't know how they think LV is going to make more money than being in Oakland either.
This has been such a trainwreck of a rollout and yet the MLB is going to continue to twiddle its thumbs and pretend nothing is happening.
The owners must be getting an astounding amount of money from Vegas casinos, etc…it is the ONLY explanation for them and their idiot Manfred pushing this so hard, as it promises to be an unmitigated disaster. No one in Vegas gives a shit about the A’s. An expansion team would have such a better shot.
But it doesn't make sense to put a stadium on a site that is too small on The Strip. LV's mayor said the A's were offered a 60-acre site (!) near downtown LV and they turned it down. The Strip should be rejected out of hand for two reasons: (1) it's hard to get to due to traffic congestion and (2) the site is too small for a domed stadium. Those are insurmountable problems, or should be.
All of which suggests that LV is being used as leverage, except that Fisher and Kaval have royally botched their opportunities from start to finish. A big part of this is that Fisher and Kaval have an unlimited supply of arrogance; they don't learn from their past mistakes.
If I had Fisher's bankroll and control of the A's, I'd keep them in the Bayy Area, without a doubt. But I'd try to quietly put together three sites, knowing that two is probably enough and that one is all that is needed.
The ace up the sleeve should be the Oakland Coliseum site because it has great access by public transit (BART), automobile (two different exits off of I-880), plentiful parking, and a long history in Oakland.
Rebuild there. Play at the Coliseum while the new stadium is being built either to the south or north of the current site. When that building is done, demolish the old Coliseum.
Attempt to find a different site between Oakland and San Jose and in proximity to BART or between Oakland and Albany.
Golden Gate Fields is probably not feasible because most of that area is on unconsolidated soil, which would liquefy in a major shaker. Dozens of piles would have to be driven to bedrock to support a stadium to withstand seismic loads.
More than a decade ago, Lew Wolff wanted to build in Fremont, but that fell apart for reasons that aren't clear to me.
You might be able to piece together enough land in Emeryville to make a large enough site, but you'd have a transportation problem. So, that's probably not feasible, either.
The problem is that Fisher wants to make a huge killing in real estate at the same time he builds a new ballpark. The Howard Terminal project is a manifestation of that desire. Fisher doesn't have a community-based bone in his body.
Yeah, that's the thing. LV doesn't need the A's. They're getting an expansion franchise regardless. If you're an LV resident, why would you want this broke ass, third world franchise when you can wait a beat or two longer and get a franchise with a competent and wealthy ownership group? The other owners are getting scratch either way. I just take their support as a vote for them to protect their own right to do whatever they want.
Exactly. It’s why Vegas citing the Golden Knights as an example they’re ready to contend is just silly. That was an expansion team that had unprecedented access to an elite NHL talent-pool as well - they were handed immediate credibility through instant-contention because the League gave them access to game-changing talent via the expansion draft.
Now you got a city whose locals root for LA, Arizona, Colorado, or the Cubs, etc, They will not support Fisher and the A’s…no chance.
Yeah, especially the Dodgers in their current Yankees free agent domination-like construction. It's going to be especially difficult to compete with them in their backyard in the near future popularity wise.
Pro bowler on the US Open wins 10x more than he typically wins, despite of only bowling partway through his 7th frame.
https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/bowler-brandon-novak-arrested-during-2024-us-open-tournament/
FIFA: what's the difference? Fuggeghabboudit
https://www.mediaite.com/sports/fifa-doesnt-seem-to-know-the-difference-between-new-york-and-new-jersey-where-its-about-to-host-a-world-cup-final/
“Eh, close enough” - they were just trying to blend
DBD AV CLUB
Percy Jackson series on Disney.
maybe i missed it, they seemed to skip the scene where the Fates drive Percy and friends around while sharing their one eye?
that was one of the best parts of the movie. maybe they have to keep some distance and not just repeat the same stuff over and over again?
The Disney series didn't show that scene.
ELSEWHERE IN COLLEGE
I’m staying at the Stanford Guest House 🤢
Pee in their pool.
Look who Oregon State's new defensive Grad Assistant is
https://twitter.com/Kd_2Three/status/1755285727703666814
CAL
Apologies for not being on the DBD as much, but did y'all already talk about Bear's Lair reopening? https://www.berkeleyside.org/2024/02/06/picante-unveils-renovations-bears-lair-reopens
i saw that signs last week. did not do anything about it.
It’s glorious.
THE MENU SAYS BEAT THE CLOCK COMING SOON
[FB] National Signing Day Wednesday
https://calbears.com/news/2024/2/6/football-national-signing-day-wednesday.aspx
National Signing Day is Wednesday and Cal's coverage will be highlighted by Travers Family Head Football Coach Justin Wilcox discussing the Golden Bears' 2024 recruiting class during a press conference via Zoom at 8:30 a.m. PT. The press conference will be recorded and published shortly after its conclusion to Cal's social media channels, CalBears.com and the Cal Athletics YouTube channel.
signed the late rising DB from the Houston area. Given his measurables and game tape, shocked he didn't more attention. Looks like a steal
He does.
Wilcox (a fockin’ DB no less) and Sirmon needs better secondary play…last year was a joke.
We need a better DC
Factual statement
[BASE] Bears Participate In Bay Area Media Day
https://calbears.com/news/2024/2/6/baseball-bears-participate-in-bay-area-media-day.aspx
The California baseball program participated in the 2024 Bay Area Baseball Media Day virtually Tuesday morning. The Golden Bears were represented by head coach Mike Neu and juniors Caleb Lomavita and Rodney Green Jr.
The trio met with attending media and previewed the upcoming 2024 season, which begins Friday, Feb. 16, against Kansas State at the 2024 Desert Invitational in Scottsdale, Arizona.
I am predicting a .500 season, give or take 2 games above or below
[SB] Bears Open 2024 Season In Louisiana
https://calbears.com/news/2024/2/6/softball-bears-open-2024-season-in-louisiana.aspx
The California softball team opens the 2024 season with a trip to Louisiana and an Opening Day Thursday tilt at McNeese before heading to Lafayette for the Louisiana Classics over the weekend.
The Golden Bears face the Cowgirls at 4 p.m. PT on Thursday in Lake Charles and open play in Lafayette on Friday with a 9 a.m. PT first pitch vs. Chattanooga, before facing host and No. 21-ranked Louisiana at 11:30 a.m. PT. Cal has another doubleheader on Saturday against Chattanooga (11:30 a.m. PT) and New Mexico (2 p.m. PT), then wraps up opening-weekend action vs. the Ragin' Cajuns at 9 a.m. PT on Sunday. The two games against Louisiana will be the only matchups of the weekend available via live stream on ESPN+.
[MSWIM] Bears Sweep Weekly Swimmer, Diver Awards
https://calbears.com/news/2024/2/6/mens-swimming-diving-bears-sweep-weekly-swimmer-diver-awards.aspx
Junior swimmer Jack Alexy and freshman diver Geoffrey Vavitsas were named the Pac-12 Swimmer and Diver of the Week, respectively, the conference office announced Tuesday. It is the first weekly conference award earned by both athletes.
Alexy, the native of Mendham, New Jersey, won all four events he competed in, helping the Golden Bears defeat host USC last Friday in Los Angeles. In his two individual event wins in the 50- and 100-yard freestyle, he edged out teammate Bjorn Seeliger with times of 19.30 and 41.94.
[BASE] Caleb Lomavita Named Preseason All-American
https://calbears.com/news/2024/2/6/baseball-caleb-lomavita-named-preseason-all-american.aspx
California baseball junior catcher Caleb Lomavita was named to the Baseball America Preseason All-America Second Team on Monday afternoon.
Lomavita was one of three catchers named to the publication's three preseason All-America teams. It is the first preseason All-America honor for the native of Ewa Beach, Hawaii.
[MBB] Bill McClintock To Receive Pete Newell Award
https://calbears.com/news/2024/2/6/mens-basketball-bill-mcclintock-to-receive-pete-newell-award.aspx
BERKELEY – Bill McClintock, a 2021 California Athletics Hall of Fame inductee and member of the Golden Bears' 1959 NCAA championship squad and 1960 NCAA runner-up team, is the 2023-24 recipient of the Pete Newell Career Achievement Award. McClintock will be honored during Cal's home game against UCLA on Saturday, which will serve as the Pete Newell Classic.
Go Bears!!!
Brett Johnson officially medically retires from football. What could have been.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3DV3h0vkVp/?igsh=MWs2MmxjOWVueTduNQ%3D%3D
This sucks all around.
Yes, yes it does. I especially feel bad for Brett Johnson.