Did mine Fri afternoon. Thought I had to worry about looking for my achilles bills but I used my HSA so I couldn't put them on my taxes since I've already taken advantage of a pre-tax situation.
hit the send button on TurboTax last night. our taxes are not that complicated, w2 income plus whatever is in brokerage account so i can get by w/o a professional accountant.
what takes the longest is the reconciliation between TurboTax and my custom spreadsheet that i made 20+ years ago that mostly replicates the tax bill line-by-line.
this year i discovered a new tax - Net Investment Income Tax - that was semi significant for the first time. basically a 3.8% surcharge above some threshold on investment income.
this one startup company had medium-sized exit that we all got paid out from finally which caused the investment income to look abnormally high compared to other years. hopefully just a one-time thing i have to worry about.
i wonder how tax day worked for actual peasants. did the Tax Man come the house and threaten bodily harm if you didnt fork over your share of the crops?
Reminds me of the Decathlon game on the Apple ][e. Spins until you hit space and it stops and throws the discus. That was such a fun game. I think we had it on the PC as well.
I also don't understand why there isn't a maximum wind allowance, such as like in the running and jumping events.
the hardest event was the pole vault because you had to run fast using the [ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ] keys and the use the 1 and 2 at exactly the right time w/ your pinky finger to flip yourself over, all while continuing to run using the [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] keys!
The transfer portal is open again. If a football player enters the portal now, it usually seen as a bad sign that something has gone wrong. Good players who feel they need more NIL money, players cut from the team because of a scholarship crunch, someone rage quits because they think they deserve to be a starter after Spring ball.
Trump Media & Technology are down nearly 20% as the Company filed an S-1 to issue more shares equal to about a 20% dilution and most of existing shareholders essentially sell out of the company - quintupling the free-float of the shares. Essentially any rube who buys the shares to a company that Trump owns little to none of and has very little incentive to see survive. A fool and their money soon parted. I am grabbing popcorn to watch how fast this stock craters.
In LA for the weekend and today, flying back late tonight (cheapest flight). For lunch, having hot pot leftovers. For dinner, may be going to a Taiwanese dumpling place.
PULLMAN, Wash. – The California baseball team got another stellar relief pitching performance and pounded out a season-high 17 hits as the Golden Bears completed the sweep over host Washington State, taking the finale 8-2 on Sunday at Bailey-Brayton Field.
BERKELEY – Hosting No. 17 San Jose State on Sunday in its final home game ahead of the postseason, the No. 5 California women's water polo team came away with a 17-9 win.
Powered by the play of their seniors – who were honored prior to participating in their final regular-season contest at Spieker Aquatics Complex – the Golden Bears (14-5, 3-2) pulled away with a 6-2 run in the third quarter, giving them a commanding six-goal advantage heading into the fourth quarter.
LOS ANGELES – The men's tennis match between No. 51 California and No. 28 UCLA slated to take place Sunday at the Los Angeles Tennis Center was postponed due to rain.
Originally scheduled for a noon PT start, the match was pushed back to 1:30 p.m. and then 3 p.m. before officials ended the contest. The match could get rescheduled but would have to be played at some point before the Pac-12 Championship, which runs April 24-27 in Ojai.
FLUVANNA COUNTY, Va. – The No. 4 California women's rowing team finished the weekend undefeated at the ACC/Pac-12 Invitational at Lake Monticello, sweeping another set of duels Sunday morning.
The Golden Bears' V8+, 2V8+, V4+ all won their duels against No. 11 Virginia before the 2V4+ defeated Virginia and No. 18 Oregon State.
LOS ANGELES – Sunday's scheduled doubleheader between the No. 20 California softball team and No. 12 UCLA has been canceled due to unplayable field conditions at Easton Stadium. The games will not be rescheduled.
BERKELEY – The No. 21 California men's golf team will begin play at the 77th edition of the Western Intercollegiate on Monday at Pasatiempo Golf Club in Santa Cruz. Seven Golden Bears will compete at the three-day, 54-hole tournament, which runs through Wednesday and will be televised each day on Golf Channel.
AZUSA – Five of California track & field's distance runners took to the track at Cougar Athletic Stadium on Saturday evening, closing out the Bryan Clay Invitational by racing in a combined four different 1500m sections.
Freshman Addie Johnson, Cal's lone female representatives, posted a personal best in the women's Open C competition with a time of 4:38.15 – second in her heat and sixth overall. Redshirt freshman Rowan FitzGerald followed in the men's Open C race with a seventh-place 3:54.56, which was also second best in his heat and a personal record.
The California women's lacrosse team (4-9, 1-4 Pac-12) led most of the way before falling, 12-11, to UC Davis (9-5, 2-3 Pac-12) in a key Pac-12 matchup on a cold and damp late Saturday afternoon at California Memorial Stadium.
The California football team wrapped up its third week of spring football with a live scrimmage on Saturday at California Memorial Stadium. The Bears ran just over 90 plays.
"A lot of young guys," Cal's Travers Family Head Football Coach Justin Wilcox said when asked about who stood out. "It was not as clean as we'd like it to be, but there were some individual plays that stood out."
MORAGA, Calif. – California rugby fell to Saint Mary's 34-16 in the D1A National Collegiate Championship quarterfinal round. The Golden Bears close out the XV's season with a 11-4 overall record.
"We wanted nothing more than to keep training, playing and to stay on the journey," Cal head coach Jack Clark said. "Saint Mary's earned that today and we congratulate them. I'm proud of our boys, they certainly gave their all."
BERKELEY – Facing No. 1 UCLA for the first time this season Saturday at Spieker Aquatics Complex, the No. 5 California women's water polo team held the Bruins to a season low in goals but fell just short in a 7-6 defeat.
PULLMAN, Wash. – Jessica Alsola clinched the No. 9 California women's tennis team's 6-1 victory over Washington State on Saturday, beating Yura Nakagawa in singles at the WSU Outdoor Courts.
Cal's record improved to 16-4 (8-1 Pac-12) after finishing a sweep of the Washington teams, with the Bears winning 6-1 at No. 26 Washington on Friday. Washington State is 10-10 (1-8).
The Oakland Athletics wrapped-up a three-game interleague series with the Washington Nationals today at the Oakland Coliseum. Lefty Alex Wood got the start for Mark Kotsay’s A’s and faced Righty Trevor Williams for the Nats.
Dodger pitchers walked 14 Padres on their way to a 6-3 loss on Sunday. James Paxton walked eight in his five plus inning start, leaving technically with the lead but responsible for the two walked batters he left on who eventually scored to tie the game.
if they miraculously make it playoff round as the 8 seed, i think the only hope is that they are playing OKC and not Denver who has all the playoff experience.
I wonder the Warriors match up worse with OKC than Denver. OKC is long and athletic. Warriors seem to struggle with that more than a team like Denver. Warriors struggle with players that are quick and get into the lane. Denver has Jamal Murray and then everything else runs through Jokic.
true. but there is no way Denver will come close to losing to Ws in a 7 game series. you just have to hope that playoff experience counts for something
It’s safe to say that Blake Snell is feeling the effects of a bizarre spring. Those reps in Arizona, as trivial and inconsequential as they appear at the time, are quite the opposite. Physically unwinding the arm; mentally, acclimating to the mound—it pays to play in February and March, and Snell didn’t.
Protesters have blocked all lanes of Northbound I-880 in Oakland Monday morning, CHP confirms.
The protest is happening at 5th Ave., where there are said to be 15 people blocking the road.
Traffic backup on I-880 due to a protest blocking lanes.
Traffic is backing up and there is no estimated time of when the highway will reopen.
The protest is happening from the Oakland Economic Blockade Against Palestinian Genocide, alongside 56 cities around the world. Organizers say "thousands" will gather at the West Oakland BART station on Monday.
Protests have blocked traffic in other major cities Monday morning, including Chicago at O'Hare Airport.
COMMENT: slow southbound traffic on I-880 is visible from my workstation, while northbound traffic seems to be moving at the limit. I imagine that southbound traffic is impacted by rubberneckers, while northbound traffic is past the point of the blockade.
I simply do not understand what positive effect these protests could possibly have. It's not like the war in Gaza is lacking for attention these days. And if you're not raising awareness, then all you're doing is inconveniencing people with no power to change the situation.
I am sympathetic to their position, but these protest tactics seem counterproductive to me.
I share your perspective. I feel these protests are counterproductive for the simple reason they antagonize people who otherwise agree that the war in Gaza must stop.
Protests are meaningless unless it puts pressure where pressure can be effective.
There's a picture of my brother and me in the water at Stinson Beach in our bowl cuts, tighty-whities/diapers, and rocking the toddler bellies. Y'all are not ready for the majesty of that photo.
Just short of shoulder length. I can’t remember the last time I had it cut. The growth and fall out rates have achieved a kind of equilibrium so it stays the same length.
If I end up having a bald spot that's what I'm going to do. My mom's brothers all have the spot on the top back so I think I'm going to get there at some point. The top of my head seems a little thinner so when I have it cut short (#3) it seems thinner a little bit. once I start to see scalp and little hair, it's clippers time.
Tax filing due today, peasants
Did mine Fri afternoon. Thought I had to worry about looking for my achilles bills but I used my HSA so I couldn't put them on my taxes since I've already taken advantage of a pre-tax situation.
Completed ours 3 weeks ago. Waiting on the refund.
hit the send button on TurboTax last night. our taxes are not that complicated, w2 income plus whatever is in brokerage account so i can get by w/o a professional accountant.
what takes the longest is the reconciliation between TurboTax and my custom spreadsheet that i made 20+ years ago that mostly replicates the tax bill line-by-line.
this year i discovered a new tax - Net Investment Income Tax - that was semi significant for the first time. basically a 3.8% surcharge above some threshold on investment income.
this one startup company had medium-sized exit that we all got paid out from finally which caused the investment income to look abnormally high compared to other years. hopefully just a one-time thing i have to worry about.
i wonder how tax day worked for actual peasants. did the Tax Man come the house and threaten bodily harm if you didnt fork over your share of the crops?
Pretty much.
Cal discus thrower Alekna breaks world record!!!
https://sports.yahoo.com/discus-thrower-mykolas-alekna-breaks-233119567.html
More detail
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/15/track-field-the-best-there-ever-was
that's amazing. you rarely hear of a college athlete breaking a WORLD RECORD..
the video is impressive. looks like some incredible amount of rotational speed that he is able to translate into launching the discus.
Reminds me of the Decathlon game on the Apple ][e. Spins until you hit space and it stops and throws the discus. That was such a fun game. I think we had it on the PC as well.
I also don't understand why there isn't a maximum wind allowance, such as like in the running and jumping events.
yup. i had it on the PC.
the hardest event was the pole vault because you had to run fast using the [ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ] keys and the use the 1 and 2 at exactly the right time w/ your pinky finger to flip yourself over, all while continuing to run using the [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] keys!
DBD AV Club
Conan O'Brien does "Hot Ones" talk show/hot wings eating. He goes all in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FALlhXl6CmA
Haven't watched it yet but read somewhere it is trending.
ELSEWHERE IN COLLEGE
The transfer portal is open again. If a football player enters the portal now, it usually seen as a bad sign that something has gone wrong. Good players who feel they need more NIL money, players cut from the team because of a scholarship crunch, someone rage quits because they think they deserve to be a starter after Spring ball.
TIL: Andrew Luck returned to Stanfurd last fall to get his masters in education. He coaches football at Paly HS.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/09/14/andrew-luck-colts-retirement-football-return-coaching
DBD Street Journal
Trump Media & Technology are down nearly 20% as the Company filed an S-1 to issue more shares equal to about a 20% dilution and most of existing shareholders essentially sell out of the company - quintupling the free-float of the shares. Essentially any rube who buys the shares to a company that Trump owns little to none of and has very little incentive to see survive. A fool and their money soon parted. I am grabbing popcorn to watch how fast this stock craters.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/15/trump-media-shares-plunge-after-company-files-to-issue-additional-djt-stock.html
Stabbing in Sydney. Not that one. It's another one.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-68817872
OSKI DISCIPLE’S TRIVA FUN, A DAILY DBD FEATURE
In addition to being the messiah, many Christians believe that Jesus of Nazareth was a notary public.
(All trivia verified by the International Trivia Foundation.)
even messiah's need to pay the bills, right?
Some think that TFG is the messiah, right? and he doesn't pay his bills
he is the messiah, no?
Unless they are a very naughty boy
DBD Lunch
I had a hot beef sandwich, just like they make in The Bear. It was GD delicious
https://www.alimentariatleftbank.com/
oh...that looks great. That's a place to put on my list for the Dook/UNC roadie.
Veggie cheeseburger and fries at Smokehouse on my way to a medical appointment.
egg salad wrap + chips. everything branded by Trader Joe's including the whole wheat wrap!
well, the Newman half and half iced-tea was not TJ's. we usually have the TJ's version of that too.
In LA for the weekend and today, flying back late tonight (cheapest flight). For lunch, having hot pot leftovers. For dinner, may be going to a Taiwanese dumpling place.
CAL
Go Bears!!!
[BASE] Bears Complete The Sweep
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/14/baseball-bears-complete-the-sweep.aspx
PULLMAN, Wash. – The California baseball team got another stellar relief pitching performance and pounded out a season-high 17 hits as the Golden Bears completed the sweep over host Washington State, taking the finale 8-2 on Sunday at Bailey-Brayton Field.
[WPOLO] No. 5 Bears Claim Senior-Day Victory
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/14/womens-water-polo-no-5-bears-claim-senior-day-victory.aspx
BERKELEY – Hosting No. 17 San Jose State on Sunday in its final home game ahead of the postseason, the No. 5 California women's water polo team came away with a 17-9 win.
Powered by the play of their seniors – who were honored prior to participating in their final regular-season contest at Spieker Aquatics Complex – the Golden Bears (14-5, 3-2) pulled away with a 6-2 run in the third quarter, giving them a commanding six-goal advantage heading into the fourth quarter.
[MTEN] Cal-UCLA Match Wiped Out Due To Rain
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/14/mens-tennis-cal-ucla-match-wiped-out-due-to-rain.aspx
LOS ANGELES – The men's tennis match between No. 51 California and No. 28 UCLA slated to take place Sunday at the Los Angeles Tennis Center was postponed due to rain.
Originally scheduled for a noon PT start, the match was pushed back to 1:30 p.m. and then 3 p.m. before officials ended the contest. The match could get rescheduled but would have to be played at some point before the Pac-12 Championship, which runs April 24-27 in Ojai.
[WROW] No. 4 Cal Finishes ACC/Pac-12 Invite Undefeated
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/14/womens-rowing-no-4-cal-finishes-acc-pac-12-invite-undefeated.aspx
FLUVANNA COUNTY, Va. – The No. 4 California women's rowing team finished the weekend undefeated at the ACC/Pac-12 Invitational at Lake Monticello, sweeping another set of duels Sunday morning.
The Golden Bears' V8+, 2V8+, V4+ all won their duels against No. 11 Virginia before the 2V4+ defeated Virginia and No. 18 Oregon State.
[SB] Softball Games At UCLA Canceled
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/14/softball-games-at-ucla-canceled.aspx
LOS ANGELES – Sunday's scheduled doubleheader between the No. 20 California softball team and No. 12 UCLA has been canceled due to unplayable field conditions at Easton Stadium. The games will not be rescheduled.
[MGOLF] Cal Heads To Western Intercollegiate
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/14/mens-golf-cal-heads-to-western-intercollegiate.aspx
BERKELEY – The No. 21 California men's golf team will begin play at the 77th edition of the Western Intercollegiate on Monday at Pasatiempo Golf Club in Santa Cruz. Seven Golden Bears will compete at the three-day, 54-hole tournament, which runs through Wednesday and will be televised each day on Golf Channel.
[T&F] Bears Post 4 Personal Bests At Bryan Clay Invitational
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/14/track-field-bears-post-4-personal-bests-at-bryan-clay-invitational.aspx
AZUSA – Five of California track & field's distance runners took to the track at Cougar Athletic Stadium on Saturday evening, closing out the Bryan Clay Invitational by racing in a combined four different 1500m sections.
Freshman Addie Johnson, Cal's lone female representatives, posted a personal best in the women's Open C competition with a time of 4:38.15 – second in her heat and sixth overall. Redshirt freshman Rowan FitzGerald followed in the men's Open C race with a seventh-place 3:54.56, which was also second best in his heat and a personal record.
[WLAX] Cal Drops Tough 12-11 Decision To UC Davis
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/13/lacrosse-cal-drops-tough-12-11-decision-to-uc-davis.aspx
The California women's lacrosse team (4-9, 1-4 Pac-12) led most of the way before falling, 12-11, to UC Davis (9-5, 2-3 Pac-12) in a key Pac-12 matchup on a cold and damp late Saturday afternoon at California Memorial Stadium.
[FB] Bears Scrimmage Wraps Up Third Week Of Spring Ball
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/13/football-bears-scrimmage-to-wrap-up-third-week-of-spring-ball.aspx
The California football team wrapped up its third week of spring football with a live scrimmage on Saturday at California Memorial Stadium. The Bears ran just over 90 plays.
"A lot of young guys," Cal's Travers Family Head Football Coach Justin Wilcox said when asked about who stood out. "It was not as clean as we'd like it to be, but there were some individual plays that stood out."
[RUGBY] Cal Falls To Saint Mary’s In Quarterfinals
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/13/rugby-cal-falls-to-saint-marys-in-quarterfinals.aspx
MORAGA, Calif. – California rugby fell to Saint Mary's 34-16 in the D1A National Collegiate Championship quarterfinal round. The Golden Bears close out the XV's season with a 11-4 overall record.
"We wanted nothing more than to keep training, playing and to stay on the journey," Cal head coach Jack Clark said. "Saint Mary's earned that today and we congratulate them. I'm proud of our boys, they certainly gave their all."
good to see Moraga in the news
[WPOLO] No. 5 Bears Nearly Upset No. 1 Bruins
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/13/womens-water-polo-no-5-bears-nearly-upset-no-1-bruins.aspx
BERKELEY – Facing No. 1 UCLA for the first time this season Saturday at Spieker Aquatics Complex, the No. 5 California women's water polo team held the Bruins to a season low in goals but fell just short in a 7-6 defeat.
"nearly upset" - so "lose"?
[WTEN] No. 9 Cal Trounces WSU 6-1
https://calbears.com/news/2024/4/13/womens-tennis-no-9-cal-trounces-wsu-6-1.aspx
PULLMAN, Wash. – Jessica Alsola clinched the No. 9 California women's tennis team's 6-1 victory over Washington State on Saturday, beating Yura Nakagawa in singles at the WSU Outdoor Courts.
Cal's record improved to 16-4 (8-1 Pac-12) after finishing a sweep of the Washington teams, with the Bears winning 6-1 at No. 26 Washington on Friday. Washington State is 10-10 (1-8).
PRO
Gronk's first pitch at the Sox game today
https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1779889221324378603
Some Stanfurd alumnus said he could win the US Masters if he played well. He did not.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/golf/tiger-woods-masters-tournament-finish-final-round-2024/5319257/
"Let them eat born-again chicken sandwiches"
- Boban Marjanovic
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2024/04/rockets-boban-marjanovic-missed-free-throw-free-chicken-clippers
No 2 sent this clip out yesterday. It was classic!
He breaks the half-marathon record, but controversy arises. Who broke the record? No. He did. What's the fella's name? No....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-68817872
Athletics take down Nats 7-6
https://www.athleticsnation.com/2024/4/14/24130482/athletics-nationals-series-win
The Oakland Athletics wrapped-up a three-game interleague series with the Washington Nationals today at the Oakland Coliseum. Lefty Alex Wood got the start for Mark Kotsay’s A’s and faced Righty Trevor Williams for the Nats.
Dodgers giveaway too many walks in loss
https://www.truebluela.com/2024/4/14/24130603/padres-dodgers-walks-james-paxton-jurickson-profar
Dodger pitchers walked 14 Padres on their way to a 6-3 loss on Sunday. James Paxton walked eight in his five plus inning start, leaving technically with the lead but responsible for the two walked batters he left on who eventually scored to tie the game.
Warriors the 10 seed playing the Kings on Tues night. Winner plays the loser between the Lakers and the Pelicans.
keeping expectations low. i suspect that W's will blow it in the normal way
And the Kings will be without Warrior killer Malik Monk and Huerter. So a definite loss.
if they miraculously make it playoff round as the 8 seed, i think the only hope is that they are playing OKC and not Denver who has all the playoff experience.
I wonder the Warriors match up worse with OKC than Denver. OKC is long and athletic. Warriors seem to struggle with that more than a team like Denver. Warriors struggle with players that are quick and get into the lane. Denver has Jamal Murray and then everything else runs through Jokic.
true. but there is no way Denver will come close to losing to Ws in a 7 game series. you just have to hope that playoff experience counts for something
Snell still not Snell-like in second start
https://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2024/4/14/24130474/mlb-san-francisco-giants-tampa-bay-rays-recap-4-14-2024-blake-snell-second-start
It’s safe to say that Blake Snell is feeling the effects of a bizarre spring. Those reps in Arizona, as trivial and inconsequential as they appear at the time, are quite the opposite. Physically unwinding the arm; mentally, acclimating to the mound—it pays to play in February and March, and Snell didn’t.
I mean, is it really not Snell-like? 5 full counts over 20 batters. 78 pitches over 4 innings? I guess what's not Snell-like is the number of runs.
Actually, you could argue he was incredibly Snell-like.
2018 and 2023 Snell were actually the outliers…2016, 2017, 2019, 2021, 2022…this is who he is.
That was my first thought. 20 pitches per inning is very Snell like, which is why I thought I it was funny McCovey Chronicles had that title
Protesters blocking all lanes of Northbound I-880 in Oakland, CHP says
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/protesters-involved-in-worldwide-blockade-close-all-lanes-of-northbound-i-880-in-oakland-chp-says/ar-BB1lECJ9?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=9dda412e9bdf443fa5b27b9f6ae9584c&ei=10
Protesters have blocked all lanes of Northbound I-880 in Oakland Monday morning, CHP confirms.
The protest is happening at 5th Ave., where there are said to be 15 people blocking the road.
Traffic backup on I-880 due to a protest blocking lanes.
Traffic is backing up and there is no estimated time of when the highway will reopen.
The protest is happening from the Oakland Economic Blockade Against Palestinian Genocide, alongside 56 cities around the world. Organizers say "thousands" will gather at the West Oakland BART station on Monday.
Protests have blocked traffic in other major cities Monday morning, including Chicago at O'Hare Airport.
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COMMENT: slow southbound traffic on I-880 is visible from my workstation, while northbound traffic seems to be moving at the limit. I imagine that southbound traffic is impacted by rubberneckers, while northbound traffic is past the point of the blockade.
I simply do not understand what positive effect these protests could possibly have. It's not like the war in Gaza is lacking for attention these days. And if you're not raising awareness, then all you're doing is inconveniencing people with no power to change the situation.
I am sympathetic to their position, but these protest tactics seem counterproductive to me.
I share your perspective. I feel these protests are counterproductive for the simple reason they antagonize people who otherwise agree that the war in Gaza must stop.
Protests are meaningless unless it puts pressure where pressure can be effective.
Hair style
The early 70s had me in a bowl cut. Like, literally. Dad cut my hair with a bowl on my head.
Pictures!!
There's a picture of my brother and me in the water at Stinson Beach in our bowl cuts, tighty-whities/diapers, and rocking the toddler bellies. Y'all are not ready for the majesty of that photo.
Just short of shoulder length. I can’t remember the last time I had it cut. The growth and fall out rates have achieved a kind of equilibrium so it stays the same length.
my mom in particular seemed to dislike me having short hair, so i had particularly terrible medium-long wavy hair in middle and HS.
currently like to have it short it enough that combing it is not required
I don't think I've used a comb in more than 15 years, probably longer.
I've not been to a barber in 25+ years. just have clippers at home and use them every couple of weeks
If I end up having a bald spot that's what I'm going to do. My mom's brothers all have the spot on the top back so I think I'm going to get there at some point. The top of my head seems a little thinner so when I have it cut short (#3) it seems thinner a little bit. once I start to see scalp and little hair, it's clippers time.