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Basket

one of the best part of all the TV cartoons you can watch is hearing Yogi tell Boo Boo about a pic-i-nic basket.

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The primary cut is the Shoulder. The shoulder is cut into halves just above the front leg joint - the top is the Boston Butt, Picnic is the lower - from just above the pig's "shoulder bone" to the just above the "knee". This cut always has bones in it, so it's more difficult to fabricate pieces before or carve afterward. One should go either low/slow to take advantage of the bone to flavor/keep moist. Your standard ham is usually made with the bag leg/rump area, but sometimes made with the Picnic cut. So, when you see "Picnic Ham" in the store, it's not necessarily ham to eat at a picnic, but made with pork from this area.

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is it called such because it is was the choice cut for picnic's?

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I've looked into this and the origins are murky. But as far as I can tell, yeah. But it's used as a pejorative in the pork industry - a lesser cut that you wouldn't serve at a formal dinner - but an inferior cut that you wouldn't mind making for a casual occasion like a picnic.

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both Boston Butt and Picnic cut seem to be cheap enough compared to other meats that i think of them as somewhat interchangeable.

i am sure there are nuances that i do not appreciate.

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Butt is the superior cut. The muscle does less work (more tender, not as lean/dry, less gamey), has more intramuscular tissues that allow it to gelatinize/fall apart, and is a more symmetrical to allow a more predictable cook.

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WEATHER

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Roller coaster weather in the East Bay Area. Mid to low 80s, then back up near 100, back to high 80s, then close to 100 again next week for a day or two.

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By East Bay Area do you mean between the Bay and the Berkeley-Oakland hills? Or do you mean a wider area that might go as far east as Mt. Diablo? I ask because east of the Berkeley-Oakland hills is a much warmer climate in September and October. Marine influence lessens rapidly east of the hills.

Here in Oakland (on the northern edge of Chinatown), the expected high for the day is around 74 deg. F and the current temp is 59 deg. F.

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Perhaps I should have consulted the CGB Bay Area map. I was referring more to the Tri-Valley area for this bit of weather.

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Ah, I see. Such is the vastness of the East Bay Area that it can be divvied up into smaller distinct areas.

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wow. sort of late in the year for 100 deg temps no?

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To amplify on Rocksanddirt's observation, the warmest months in the SF Bay Area are typically September and October.

This summer has been weird in that temps have *rarely* gone above 80 deg. F. We may have had a few days where the temps have been close to 90, but that hasn't been the case in September thus far. September has been mild.

Mrs Slug observed that there was no "Fogust" this year. August was mostly clear and mild. Fog returned, however, earlier this month. And there have been a number of mornings with low clouds.

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yes and no. There are often a few hot days second half of Sept/first half of Oct. But does seem like more this year.

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Cal was on quarters when I was there. We didn’t start until late Sept/early Oct and it was usually nice and warm and hard to go to class. Maybe not 100 warm though.

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Having lived a huge chunk of my life in Berkeley, the period you describe would have been warm, indeed. But it was not unheard of that the temps could top 90 or even 100 for a few days before settling back down.

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No tropical storm here, but humidity is 91%. I’m a skinny guy so don’t sweat much but was sopping wet after my run this morning.

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Hurricane Helene went from a tropical storm to a Cat 3 stunningly fast and is scheduled to hit the Florida Panhandle - right about the trigger on the "gun" of Florida - with up to a 20 foot surge. It's gonna be bad, yo. Hang onto your butts

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czd13mezz7mo

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it was supposed too be "nice" all week in NYC area, but now there is light rain in the forecast.

it is "climate week" in NYC as world leaders and people of that sort descend upon NYC. it happens to coincide w/ UN General Assembly as well. not sure if that is always the case or not

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A product (not a brand name) that is named after a person

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Guillotine

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i would not have expected that

A guillotine is a tall frame with a weighted blade that slides down to behead people. The device was invented in France during the French Revolution by Joseph-Ignace Guillotin, a doctor who promoted it as a quicker and more humane way to execute people. The guillotine was the official method of execution in France until the 20th century

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After having read up on the guillotine and observations by some present at such executions, I can see why it was consigned to history. It is, to put it mildly, brutal and barbaric. All beheadings are barbaric.

I have more respect for hanging. With hanging, if done well, a quick snap of the neck and it's over.

But then again, I detest capital punishment in general. It's the ultimate temper tantrum by impotent people acting through the state in the name of the people.

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Gatling gun

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Bastard file?

Ottoman

Dyson sphere

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If by Ottoman, you refer to the empire, then yes. If you refer to the piece of furniture, then no.

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Why not the furniture?

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Because the furniture takes its name from the region designated by the empire. The furniture was not invented or created by the Turkoman tribal leader Osman I. The Brits anglicized Osman to Ottoman.

The furniture is simply a thing that was commonly found in homes within the Ottoman Empire.

By the way, did you know that there was a shop named Ottoman Empire somewhere in the Bay Area? The name has since become associated with a furniture firm in North Carolina.

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At first look, Ottoman Empire seems like a cool name for a furniture store. But I encountered some online joking that people would be cutting off parts of the furniture. Turns out that they were sort of big on castration:

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/84/12/4324/2864451#53763695

The eunuchs of the Ottoman court

This article goes into way too much detail on the process! I was going to quote some of it, but whoa, TMI.

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OK, but SGBear asked for "A product (not a brand name) that is named after a person". He doesn't say the the product has to be invented by that person.

Though since the Ottoman is named after a region, that is in turn named after a person, I guess it doesn't qualify.

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Dyson is a brand name

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Dyson is a brand name, but Dyson sphere is a product (which probably does not yet exist) unrelated to the Dyson brand. It’s the sphere that Scotty et al escaped from.

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The Heisenberg Compensator

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Daguerreotype.

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The Diesel engine

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Geiger counter, Ohm meter, things of that sort ..

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OUR CRUMBLING DEMOCRACY

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Trump tells Fox News in an interview that he'll fire all military generals who don't swear loyalty to MAGA

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Rudy G has been officially disbarred in DC

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1839289384408862971

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apparently my younger child (17) posted this on the NYTimes website using my account.

I like to stay informed about current events. I try to read all sorts of news headlines, but recently I have been avoiding the election headlines. They build up so much anxiety inside of me. I would rather stay away from political news because it affects my mood drastically. With the severity of the election, I cannot imagine another four years of the Trump Administration. I know that if I continue to stay informed, I will stress myself out to the point where I can't think about anything else. I would rather hear about political news from someone I trust, rather than biased news sources.

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for more context .. they are in a journalism class during senior yr in HS and there is some student portion of the NYT that they interact with.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/19/learning/forum-4-what-is-your-relationship-with-news.html

Election 2024 Student Conversation Forum

Forum 4 | What Is Your Relationship With News?

Where and how do you get your news? How do you know whether to trust it? How do your sources of information affect your understanding of our world?

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PRO

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Athletics drop final night game to the Rangers, 5-1

https://www.athleticsnation.com/2024/9/25/24254823/athletics-lose-to-rangers

After a thrilling walk-off victory last night against Texas, the Oakland Athletics played their final night game at the Coliseum tonight against the American League West rival Rangers. Game two of the series featured a pair of 26-year-old lefties; Brady Basso for the A’s and Cody Bradford for the Rangers.

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Cheapest price on Seatgeek for the final home game is $104 including fees.

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interesting that it is that high. it was mostly 1/2 full in the Sun afternoon game vs Yankees. i would not have expected a sellout ..

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I think the final game has been a sellout for at least a month. Fans were asking the A's to open Mt Davis.

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This is true.

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Giants revert to the mean (Giants lose to the DBacks 8-2)

https://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2024/9/25/24254730/giants-diamondbacks-recap-heliot-ramos-mason-black

At some point during the San Francisco Giants 11-0 demolition of the Arizona Diamondbacks on Tuesday night, I fired off a tweet asking an innocent enough question: if the Giants re-signed all of their free agents this offseason, made no other moves, and ran it back with the exact same roster, how many games do you think they’d win?

The responses were predictable, ranging from a whole host of people who somehow thought the team would get demonstrably worse, to an even larger host of people thinking they’d finish exactly at .500, to a few optimistic folks who pegged the Giants for 85-90 wins.

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Shohei Ohtani leads Dodgers to close win over Padres, division lead back to 3

https://www.truebluela.com/2024/9/25/24254790/shohei-ohtani-dodgers-padres-jack-flaherty

Taken to the extremes by a formidable opponent, the Dodgers found peace of mind with a 4-3 win over the Padres on Wednesday night at Dodger Stadium, now more firmly in total control of the NL West’s outcome.

It’s only fitting that in this team’s most pivotal regular season game, its most important, its Most Valuable Player would play the role of hero. Shohei Ohtani’s 2-RBI effort paved the way for the Dodgers win. The first of Ohtani’s runs batted in came against Cease in the fourth, and a couple of innings later he got to Arian Morejón for a go-ahead single.

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They’re not White Sox bad, but the Nats are crawling to the finish line. Been shutout three games in a row.

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A's play finale in Oakland today

here is an article that has a cool chart of the 3 Oakland franchises over time

https://www.nbcnews.com/sports/mlb/oakland-athletics-last-game-rcna171699

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Caitlyn Clark's rookie season comes to an end w/ playoff loss.

sort of a strange playoff format in first round of WBNA. 3 game series where the home team and higher seed host the first 2.

didnt see the whole thing, just the last couple minutes. it was a close 1-point game and Conn Sun ended up scoring most of the last 10-15 points after getting ahead w/ a long 3.

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NYC Mayor Adams (D) indicted on at least one Federal charge. The indictment is sealed, so no details are available. However, there have been swirling rumors that he was taking bribes and acting as an unregistered foreign agent. NYT reports he accepted money from Israel, China, Qatar, South Korea, and Uzbekistan. I am surprised that Turkey isn't on that list.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/23/nyregion/fbi-adams-qatar-israel-china-uzbekistan-korea.html

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I wonder if Mayor Adams was inspired by Senator Bob Menendez or if he is separately corrupt.

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Adams Is Charged With Bribery and Fraud

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Post fail. This should be in crumbling democracy

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I'll allow it.

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Sounds like he is a pro at taking bribes 💰💰💰

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Buh-dum-dum tssshhh!

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He should resign.

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Deshaun Watson doesn't want an offense with so many designed QB runs. What's the matter, Deshaun? Hits injure muscles. And those are helped by massages. I heard you like massages, dawg.

https://www.si.com/nfl/deshaun-watson-not-interested-browns-offense-designed-qb-runs

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Tommy John must imagine that Hall of Fame voters from the past had time machines and thus knew who he was going to vote for in upcoming elections. Or he's an idiot.

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Or, he's just a bitter old man.

I hope I don't become a bitter old man.

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Cal football fans = bitter old men (and women)

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He was interviewed on the MLB channel the other day because it was the 50 year anniversary of his surgery. He didn’t seem like he was all together.

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CAL

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Looks like Oregon is trying to poach our best recruit

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[MTEN] 4 Bears To Compete In Aggie Invitational

https://calbears.com/news/2024/9/25/mens-tennis-4-bears-to-compete-in-aggie-invitational.aspx

While one group of four Golden Bears continues playing at the ITA All-American Championships in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the California men's tennis team will send another group of four Golden Bears to vie for singles and doubles titles in the Aggie Invitational starting Friday at UC Davis.

Sophomores Alex Aney, Jonathan Irwanto and Ethan Schiffman along with freshman Bernardo Munk Mesa – who'll make his collegiate debut – are slated to play in the annual tournament, which ends Sunday. This will mark the second appearance in the UC Davis tournament for Aney and Schiffman, who played in the Davis event last season.

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[MTEN] Dean Upsets Nation’s Top-Ranked Player At ITA All-Americans

https://calbears.com/news/2024/9/25/mens-tennis-dean-upsets-nations-top-ranked-player-at-ita-all-americans.aspx

TULSA, Okla. – California men's tennis graduate student Theo Dean upset the nation's top-ranked singles player to win his opener at the ITA All-American Championships on Wednesday and join the Golden Bear doubles team of Mikey Wright and Alex Chang in Thursday's second rounds.

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[WTEN] Bears Host Cal Fall Invitational

https://calbears.com/news/2024/9/25/womens-tennis-bears-host-cal-fall-invitational.aspx

The California women's tennis team hosts the Cal Fall Invitational from Friday through Sunday at the Hellman Tennis Complex and Channing Tennis Courts.

While Golden Bears Jessica Alsola and Mao Mushika are still playing at the ITA All-American Championships this week in Cary, North Carolina, much of the team – including Cami Brown, Makenna Thiel, Tiziana-Marie Schomburg, Sophie Hernandez and Naomi Xu – is in Berkeley. The Bears will compete against players from Nevada, Pacific, Sacramento State, Saint Mary's, San Jose State, Santa Clara and Stanford in singles and doubles in the annual tournament.

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[WTEN] Mushika, Alsola Win ITA All-Americans Doubles Opener

https://calbears.com/news/2024/9/25/womens-tennis-mushika-alsola-win-ita-all-americans-doubles-opener.aspx

CARY, N.C. – The California women's tennis doubles pair of Jessica Alsola and Mao Mushika won its main draw opening match on Wednesday at the ITA All-American Championships, while Alsola, in main draw singles, lost her opener at Cary Tennis Park.

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[VB] Bears Begin ACC Schedule At Louisville, Notre Dame

https://calbears.com/news/2024/9/25/volleyball-bears-begin-acc-schedule-at-louisville-notre-dame.aspx

BERKELEY – California volleyball begins its inaugural slate of ACC play this week, heading east to face No. 5 Louisville in Louisville, Kentucky, Friday evening before heading to South Bend, Indiana, to take on Notre Dame Sunday morning. Both matches will be broadcast on ACCNX.

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[MPOLO] No. 6 Bears Head Back On The Road

https://calbears.com/news/2024/9/25/mens-water-polo-no-6-bears-head-back-on-the-road.aspx

Following a fourth-place finish in its first set of home games hosting the Overnght MPSF Invitational, the No. 6 California men's water polo team returns to the road this week for its final games ahead of MPSF play. The Golden Bears (7-3) face No. 2-ranked D-III program Pomona-Pitzer Thursday night at 7 p.m. PT before taking on No. 8 UC Irvine for the second time this season Friday at 1 p.m. Cal owns a 3-2 record against top-8 D-I schools through 10 games led by three-time ACWPC All-American Max Casabella, who currently paces the MPSF with 29 goals.

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Sounds like a back-to-back-to-back-to-back isn't going to happen this year.

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[MGOLF] Bears Set For Annual Big Match In Woodside

https://calbears.com/news/2024/9/25/mens-golf-bears-set-for-annual-big-match-in-woodside.aspx

BERKELEY – The California men's and women's golf teams are set to compete alongside one another against their Stanford counterparts Thursday in the fifth edition of the Big Match at Menlo Country Club in Woodside.

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Cal Men's Basketball: Meet The Bears - Spencer Mahoney (someone tell Cal this isn't the correct Mahoney)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNQ8nkLmwvE&ab_channel=CalBears

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[FB] Cal, BYU To Meet In 2026, 2027

https://calbears.com/news/2024/9/25/football-cal-byu-to-meet-in-2026-2027.aspx

The California and BYU football teams have agreed to meet for a pair of nonconference games in a home-and-home series in 2026 and 2027. The Golden Bears will travel to Provo, Utah, on Sept. 12, 2026, with the Cougars making a trip to Berkeley on Sept. 11, 2027.

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[FB] Woodson Named Campbell Trophy Semifinalist

https://calbears.com/news/2024/9/25/football-woodson-named-campbell-trophy-semifinalist.aspx

California redshirt-senior safety Craig Woodson has been named a semifinalist for the 2024 William V. Campbell Trophy, the National Football Foundation & College Hall of Fame announced Wednesday.

College football's premier scholar-athlete award recognizes an individual as the absolute best in the country for his combined academic success, football performance and exemplary leadership.

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It’s time again for Oski Disciple’s Bear Facts.

In 1947 Pappy Waldorf took over as California’s head football coach replacing Frank Wickhorst whose Bears had gone 2-7 in his lone season at the helm. Pappy effected a remarkable turnaround as his team posted a 9-1 record with the only loss to national power U$C. The Bears played before 606,266 fans over the course of the season including three sellouts at Memorial Stadium and an average of 56,857 in seven home games. The Bears were led by All-American running back Jackie Jensen whose heroics included throwing a 67-yard touchdown option pass to Paul Keckly late in fourth quarter of that years’s Big Game to give Cal a 21-18 victory.

Oski Disciple’s Bear Facts appears Tuesday through Thursday on the DBD throughout the 2024 college football season. This feature is brought to you by Nabisco Cookies and Snacks.

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The sellouts were Navy, U$C, and one other game I'm not recalling; the Big Game would have been in Shallow Alto that year.

The sellouts almost certainly included the East Side temporary seat extensions above the East Rim. As I recall, sellout capacity was approx. 81,500 seats.

Okay, I looked at Wikipedia - the 3rd sellout was against St. Mary's on October 4 (78,000). Cal also drew well on the road - October 11 at Wisconsin (45,000), November 1 at UCLA (80,266), and November 22 at Stanfraud (82,000). That's an average of 69,089 per game on the road.

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seems like a LOT of fans. i am sure we get a fraction of that these days

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In days of yore going to a Bear game was the thing to do. They were drawing big crowds with considerably fewer alums than today and with a much smaller population in the Bay Area. I remember as a kid local merchants had contests during Big Game Week to see who could best decorate their business in blue and gold. I believe there also used to be a parade for the football team (or that included them prominently) before the season started.

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Bears weren't competing with the 49ers in those days.

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Or the Raiders. I don’t remember going to see them at Kezar but I know my dad went.

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We should get Mothers Cookies to sponsor because they're from Oakland. Their white and pink yoghurt-covered animal cookies were a welcome part of my school lunch bag.

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I saw those at the store the other day. I had no idea they were still available. Even though I was never a big fan I bought some for old time’s sake.

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Cal sports is the closest thing left to a legit sports team near Oakland .. now that the A's are gone.

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I would translate that thusly: This is Bear Territory.

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DBD AV CLUB

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This seems close enough--last month I joined the Berkeley Alumni Virtual Book Club. We had online discussion of Kuang's Babel.

The virtual book club experience wasn't very satisfying. I guess it's a little more engaging that DBD/s AV club, but not by that much, and I had higher expectations, so was more disappointed.

I do recommend the book, however.

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ELSEWHERE IN COLLEGE

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