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Oski Disciple's avatar

Will there ever be a day when there's a NCAA FBS championship game without either an SEC team, Clemson or Ohio State? If so when, how and who will be in it (extra credit if you say Cal).

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SGBear's avatar

Dogs

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TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

I love dogs! Alas, I live with a cat who bullies me.

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clapdoc's avatar

What is your cat's morning alarm clock schedule? Ours is 3 am and 5 am wake up.

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TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

She's my brother's cat, and his girlfriend gets up early, so I don't have to deal with her schedule too much. It's more that she (the cat) likes to bite me, swat at me, and sit outside my room waiting to pounce.

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Terence's avatar

Maybe she sees you as the cake competition in the household.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

She sounds like a delight... ;-)

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O.Overall's avatar

My mom’s relatives all have dogs because they are hunters - it us pretty cool to see them in action sniffing out birds and pointing and such. I like them well enough but with three human dependents I have no interest in expanding the number of living things depending on my care.

My only day to day interaction with dogs is that they frequently take shits on my lawn and my kids step in it.

Cats creep me the fuck out.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Both my dogs are hunting breeds, and though I have never hunted a day in my life, they instinctually point at birds and squirrels....it's insane.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Mrs Slug and I are dog people. Mrs Slug's experience growing up is more dog oriented than mine. Her dad used dogs in hunting (Brittany Spaniels) and her mom's family had Boxers.

Growing up, I had two different dogs - Sam (Labrador Retriever) and Sadie (Beagle). Ralph (Cockapoo) came along after I had started college.

As a couple, we have had a Cocker Spaniel (Toby), Basset Hounds (Clara and Allison), a Boxer (Rocky), a Boston Terrier (Minnie), a Dachshund mix (Tigger) and a Terrier mix (Oliver). With the exception of Clara, all of the dogs that Mrs Slug and I have had as a couple were or are rescues.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

My 1 year old is a Brittany....and the old girl checking out Sather Gate in my avatar is the 14.5 year old vizsla....both are incredibly sweet and beautiful dogs, who could probably behave themselves a little more, tho that's on me.

Newellbany is lucky to still have his flip flops after our TCU AirBnB, tho were they to be destroyed, that's on him......;-)

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heyalumnigo's avatar

pqtm. First thought you mom had Brittany Spears dogs...

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

i am not a dog (or cat) person but dogs and cats seem to really like me.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I am not a dog person and I feel like a lot of people all of a sudden have “support” dogs of all sizes that they take into stores where dogs do not belong.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

I am a total dog person, and tho I think the "support animal" thing is way out of control, dogs of all sizes nonetheless belong in stores, PROVIDED they are well behaved. If grubby-ass, disease spreading kids can be in stores, a nicely groomed and well behaved pup should be as well.

While this is admittedly a minority opinion, kids are disgusting.

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Terence's avatar

Having not been a US resident for more than a decade the biggest change is HOW MANY DOGS ARE AT THE AIRPORT AND ON PLANES NOW

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Ya, they're everywhere.

I thought I read that airlines were closing that "support animal" loophole and requiring only service animals....but who knows.

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O.Overall's avatar

Oh dude, one funny thing about living in San Francisco with little kids (as I once did), is that you notice that people are WAY NICER to dogs than kids. A dog can drop a deuce in the middle of a restaurant and people will be like oh poochie, what kind of dog is that? If your kid makes a single noise, the whole restaurant stares daggers at you like you are the world’s biggest asshole failure of a parent.

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sycasey's avatar

I think my best quality as a parent is not giving a damn what other people think about my kids' behavior. (I have plenty of bad qualities too, but that one I'm proud of.)

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Cugel's avatar

hahaha, sad, but true.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Same strain runs in Berkeley, too.

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SGBear's avatar

I find it interesting that - within a human generation - large-breed dogs went from kinda-outdoor dogs to mostly indoor dogs.

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Scootie's avatar

I feel like all pets are indoor pets these days. We had a golden lab/retriever mix when I was growing up, and though he was a Very Good Dog he maybe set foot inside our house once in his entire lifetime. He had his own house, in the backyard where he belonged.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

That's because by and large, humans suck.

Your average human is an a$$hole, whereas your average dog is a devoted creature that provides unconditional love.

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FiatSlug's avatar

This is also the same generation that went from allowing their kids to walk to school to shuttling them to school and everywhere else.

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space_lab's avatar

Many years ago I had neighbors in the next building over that kept a St. Bernard on a ~10 ft balcony.

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FiatSlug's avatar

That's effing ridiculous.

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SGBear's avatar

Brady

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Bunch

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Cugel's avatar

...going to have to smack a bitch?

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SGBear's avatar

, James. Press Secretary to President Reagan, who was shot by John Hinckley, who was trying to win the affection of Jodie Foster.

Dude was shot under his left eye by an explosive 22LR round, had the bullet pass through his brain and shatter his brain cavity. He survived another 33 years, becoming a gun control advocate.

His nickname was Bear because he was balding, rumpled, and roly poly.

https://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/james-brady-obituary-109707

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Ronald_Reagan#Shooting

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heyalumnigo's avatar

He fumbled.

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paulie's avatar

and thus began the longest reign of terror the NFL has ever seen

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SGBear's avatar

DBD is throwing a late 70s/early 80s dinner party. What would bring to that party?

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GB III's avatar

A bottle of Mateus. My parents drank that all the time in the 70’s.

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Cugel's avatar

That and Blue Nun (shudders)

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GB III's avatar

Blue Nun! Can you imagine drinking that today??? Oh man, I haven’t had a taste of that in 40 years, but I can “taste it” as I write this. Not good, not good.

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Scootie's avatar

Beef fondue

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Cugel's avatar

Good choice

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goldenone's avatar

Fondue Fred's, ever go to that place? (Now permanently closed).

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Scootie's avatar

Oh no, when did it close? CALumbus Bear and Dr. Mrs. CALumbus and I went there a few years ago after some game.

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Cugel's avatar

Hmmm... they seem to be marketing themselves as a date location.

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TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

I suppose if you're already swapping spit with someone, sharing a fondue pot isn't too bad. Though I hear there were "rules" back in the day like, if you drop this kind of thing, you have to kiss the person to your right, so maybe it was all a precursor to swinging. I don't know. I wasn't alive.

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Rocksanddirt's avatar

lots of thing were precursors to swinging in the mid 70s

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I did once or twice. Was good.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

we have a fondue pot. i like cheese fondues over the hot oil version

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heyalumnigo's avatar

The fondue raclette and cheese pot I had in Paris with No 1 and his ex-GF was so so good. Would be worth doing again.

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BentPawn's avatar

Bought a raclette set off Amazon and we had the whole spread for NYE family dinner. Was a great time, though raclette is not a cheap cheese.

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SGBear's avatar

Yeah, a few times. You could buy a la carte ,but they also had these specials of all-you can eat. One offer was all you can eat-fondue AND all you can drink Natty Light or house wine. People would set up camp at Fondue Fred, get housed, play cards, and get the cheese-sweats.

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PawlOski's avatar

I remember that all-you-can-drink special and still have no idea why I never went.

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Cugel's avatar

No, but fondue was ridiculously popular in the 70's

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OskiOfTarth's avatar

My ELP LP

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FiatSlug's avatar

EEEFFFFFFF EEEMMMMMMM!!

(No static at all)

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Cugel's avatar

Oh man, very emblematic of the 70's

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Cugel's avatar

Weed

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space_lab's avatar

I’m wearing Garfield slippers.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

i would come back from the future in my custom Delorean citing how the world was going to change and that everyone in 2021 was addicted to their mobile phones.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

I'm bringing VHS tapes for this new-fangled technology called a VCR...something to have on in the background at the very least...

A Puff the Magic Dragon, Benji, The Exorcist or maybe some Swedish Erotica starring John Holmes....you know, depending on what kind of party DBD is throwing....

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Scootie's avatar

We're all going to gather and watch Last Tango in Paris.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

So it's THAT kind of party...right on.

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PawlOski's avatar

Where do I leave my keys?

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g.oso's avatar

vienna sausages in a gelatin mold with canned cream of mushroom "sauce" served cold

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Newellbany's avatar

Bartles and James wine coolers.

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Scootie's avatar

Not yet invented! Bartles and Jaymes was born in 1985 (which seems weird to me because I would have sworn we had them in HS but I guess that was that other wine cooler brand I can no longer remember)

Thank you for your support.

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dcblue's avatar

I can't remember which brand it was, but I do remember being on Guam in the late 80s when a typhoon hit and sitting of the balcony of the condo I was renting drinking a couple wine coolers and watching the storm go by.

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KetamineCal's avatar

My aunt and uncle still lived in Guam back then. So many typhoons.

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GB III's avatar

Yeah, it was California Coolers. Terrible. But at the time, so good.

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Scootie's avatar

Oh yeaaaaaahhhh. They basically tasted like the green Hi-C in my 16YO opinion.

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GB III's avatar

Yeah. But they were fun. Just a bunch of high school kids at house parties drinking. Bottled wine was so expensive and sophisticated (and frankly, no one liked the taste). But wine coolers worked. Cheap and sweet.

We tried playing drinking games using wine coolers in lieu of beer a few times. Every single person threw up. After that, beer (and shots) were the only thing permitted at drinking games.

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goldenone's avatar

Quarters.

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Rocksanddirt's avatar

The 'California Cooler' was first. Used music from The Trashmen (bird is the word, etc) in adds.

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Newellbany's avatar

Shocking!

This makes me want to have a wine cooler, if for no other reason to see what they're like. I don't think I've had one as a grown-up and I'd be willing to entertain the notion that they might be refreshing, even if I'm sure they're too sweet for me.

Who's had one as an adult and cares to admit it by offering a review?

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GB III's avatar

I have. No good. Sickly sweet. Back in the 80’s high school girls loved these, so it was sometimes necessary to drink at a party ( we all drank beer).

But now, as an adult, no way.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

never had one as an adult. but i assume that the current hard seltzer craze is about the same, or am i missing something?

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Fire Starkey's avatar

hard seltzer is fucking disgusting

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GB III's avatar

Ranch waters, with a slice of jalapeño.

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GB III's avatar

Hard seltzer is not as sweet. Easier to drink.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Isn’t this basically what a Zima was? Never had one but I do remember the commercials.

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Cugel's avatar

No, Zima was something else, and not very good.

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GB III's avatar

I think Zima was kind of a malt liquor. Terrible.

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Cugel's avatar

Yes, without the hops

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GB III's avatar

It’s hard to describe the Zima taste. It’s like drinking a bad, flat beer that was mixed with some diet Fresca.

Some bubbles, something vaguely sweet. A hint of some kind of citrus taste. But, on the whole, somewhat indescribable and wholly unsatisfying. I remember having to drink a water for each bottle of Zima that I had.

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Cugel's avatar

Wow, you're doing a damn fine job, and bringing back a distasteful memory.

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FiatSlug's avatar

...although some Zima commercials were made at Cal Memorial.

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Cugel's avatar

Not I, I mean I've had Sangria when my wife has made some with lunch, but never anything mass produced.

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SGBear's avatar

Ambrosia salad with shredded coconut & mini marshmallows

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KetamineCal's avatar

Now I miss my grandma. This was her dish at family parties, especially after losing most of her eyesight. She could still safely make it or have us kids help.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Is this for the era or the age of the dinner party participants?

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SGBear's avatar

Yes.

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Terence's avatar

Tora Tora Tora

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SGBear's avatar

Tora = 寅 =Tiger, in Japanese

Tora, Tora, Tora was the code sent back to the lead plane that attacked Pearl Harbor. Tora is an acronym for tosugeki (attack) raigeki (lightning, but also means torpedo attack), which was the code for a complete surprise.

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goldenone's avatar

Used to really like the movie as a kid. When I lived in Hawaii you could hike up to a spot where a KATE Japanese bomber had crashed in the hills above Honolulu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakajima_B5N

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Terence's avatar

I had no idea until recently the Japanese portions of the movie were scripted by Kurosawa - I watched Stray Dog recently. It's really good, but also you can see its quite early in Kurosawa's career - a lot of his ideas and techniques are still quite raw compared to something like High and Low or Sanjuro.

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GB III's avatar

Did you make this?

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TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

Yes (no real tweets, &c.)

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GB III's avatar

Looks like you have a talent for making King Cake. Looks great. Good job.

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SGBear's avatar

Tatiana, the Siberian Tiger from the SF Zoo.

She was the one that escaped and killed one teen and wounded two others - one of which admitted being drunk and provoking the tiger while standing atop the wall of her enclosure. Tatiana was shot dead by the aptly named Officer Oshita. Tatiana was shot once she turned toward officer Oshita to defend the brothers who she saw as her live prey to be eaten later. One of the brothers died nine years ago at the age of 24.

The family of the teen killed settled for $900k and the twins settled for an unknown amount.

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Scootie's avatar

Didn't that happen on Christmas Day of whatever year it was?

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space_lab's avatar

Started reading Calvin & Hobbes with my elementary schooler. Still great, although surprisingly I find some of the language faintly jarring in places these days.

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O.Overall's avatar

When my twins were a little under a year old I had one in the carrier and we went into the lion house at the SF Zoo. She had been asleep but then she peeked and saw the lion about 50 feet from us. Her eyes got so big. It is kind of elemental - the fear you feel upon seeing a predator like that.

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SGBear's avatar

They scare the crap out of me. I mean, not when they're behind an inescapable wall, but in the wild. Tigers, rhinos, hippos, and crocs scare me. The last three because they'll attack anything. But Tigers because they're pure raw predatory power.

Everyone has heard the recorded sound of a tiger, but a tiger's real anger-snarl is a true brown note. A deep tremolo sub-base that shakes your innards with a shatteringly loud high snarl and turns your legs to jelly and causes immediate panic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n-3cFIuQBc

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KetamineCal's avatar

While in Tampa I visited Carol Baskin's place (before the show existed). There was a tiger that had extreme urinary range and loved targeting tour groups.

So now I have 2 reasons to fear tigers.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

While not the same size but I have a fear of running into a mountain Lion or being stalked by one when hiking in remote areas or less frequented trails.

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PawlOski's avatar

I think rhinos are pretty timid. Saw one in the wild in northern India (and a tiger too). That thing went and hid as fast as it could.

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PawlOski's avatar

War Eagle

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Early roll call for at Auburn in Sept 2024? Too soon? ;-)

Newellbany and I, check.

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PawlOski's avatar

Oh, yes, I'm there. I grew up as a weird Cal/Auburn fan. My mom and my uncle went there. Bo leaping over Bear Bryant's Alabama defensive line into the end zone for the '82 Iron Bowl win was a formative sports moment for me.

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Scootie's avatar

Probably, but Lord knows I'm not committing to anything nearly three years from now. I can't even commit to plans this weekend.

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SGBear's avatar

Yup.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

me too. HAG and i have a HS friend who teaches there

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heyalumnigo's avatar

When I lived in Louisville I was sad that they changed it from 2020 to 2024, but in retrospect, I'm glad.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Which animal is used the most as a team name/mascot in college and professional sports? I would assume Tiger has to be used the most used animal.

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SGBear's avatar

Per Bleacher Report: the answer for D1 is "Bulldogs". People were shocked when they found out number 14.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/650132-college-football-the-18-most-frequently-used-mascot-names-in-ncaa-division-one

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GlueAndBold's avatar

That's kind of false though, since they're counting Golden Eagles (4) and Eagles (11) separately.

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g.oso's avatar

before clicking the link, I would have assumed tiger, bulldog, wildcat, and bears of some sort

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Newellbany's avatar

Brown Bears (Brown Univ., Ivy league) is fun.

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Newellbany's avatar

The SEC has THREE schools nicknamed tigers, 'cause they hella creative.

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Justbear's avatar

Considering it's an Asian animal, it's surprising tigers have such a presence in the US.

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paulie's avatar

I still can't tell them apart even after that chart

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SGBear's avatar

You rub their bellies to tell the difference.

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dcblue's avatar

I thought the politically correct name is Amur, not Siberian. The National Zoo has an Amur and a Sumatran.

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Terence's avatar

Along with Bears, my favorite animal. Love a Tiger.

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Newellbany's avatar

DEFINITELY. I have a house tiger (calico domestic cat) and a house panther (black domestic cat). I remain convinced that I could train a tiger and we'd all coexist swimmingly, but Dr. Ms. Newellbany remains against the idea for some reason.

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Terence's avatar

DBD Not Official Financial Advice

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goldenone's avatar

NASDAQ getting hammered. Prepare for a major correction.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

i bought some BTC at 40k. highly not recommended.

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Terence's avatar

DBD Test Kitchen

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Terence's avatar

making lamb chops with grilled dates

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goldenone's avatar

Chicken with penne, spinach, whole tomatoes, cream, and parmesan.

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Cugel's avatar

Wife made her most excellent tomatillo chili last night, but with cubed pork instead of beef. Paired with a 2017 Ridge Pagani Vny Zinfandel.

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g.oso's avatar

red beans and rice last night. Also bought a Traeger over the weekend and meat smoking season has commenced.

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TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

I don't know what that means, so I assume you're just cycling everywhere, yelling LIT-rully!

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heyalumnigo's avatar

WFCSHH!

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Terence's avatar

DBD AV Club

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Cugel's avatar

The Witcher is a better show then it has any right to be.

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g.oso's avatar

watched ep 1 of the new season of Kobra Kai and I'm just not that into the show anymore.

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PawlOski's avatar

Yeah, the novelty wears thin pretty quickly. I couldn't get past the first part of the second season.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

what season are they up to? 4?

i am stuck on season 2 of KK as well as several other shows ..

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Agreed, tho I love that they brought Thomas Ian Griffith back - he's definitely on the B-Action Movie Mt Rushmore (along with Cynthia Rothrock, Jeff Speakman, and Michael Dudikoff)...his death scene in XXX was all-time!

Still, there's only so many full-on karate melee's one can be expected to sit through, and after awhile, I want someone to punch LaRusso in the face....

And Tory is my ex-wife's doppelgänger - it's eerie....all the way down to the f'ed up family and the characters general sociopathic psychosis.....

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sycasey's avatar

I still enjoyed the latest season, but I wouldn't say it's BETTER than any previous season.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I need to watch it.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Instead I watched MacGruber and the Nash Bridges movie. I knew they were making it and didn't realize it was released back in Nov.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

The Tender Bar was good...Ben Affleck was real solid.

Also, finished season 1 of Mayor of Kingstown...one of the finest shows on television in years. Violent, heavy and not for the faint of heart, but a fantastic all-around effort, and Renner will be nominated for Golden Globes/Emmys and all that bullschitt. It’s Taylor Sheridan’s world...we just live here.

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O.Overall's avatar

Ben Affleck is a pretty good actor despite being a general putz of a human being. He is one of these guys that banged the nanny, right? Lol

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TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

His best work was in the Voyage of the Mimi, duh.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

That list is long and distinguished....

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Newellbany's avatar

At the bottom of that list, solidly undistinguished, is Arnold's nanny banging.

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Cugel's avatar

eh, I grant him some credit for never lying about it and supporting the kid without question.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

They had a baby, that looks like Arnold...

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heyalumnigo's avatar

oh wait, so the one that looks just like him was from the nanny and not Maria? Explains so much.

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O.Overall's avatar

True! I don’t mean to add to the current Puritan mood and ban him for being a putz. I just find the guys who get with their nannies kind of funny and mockworthy. Plus Jennifer Garner is so hot!

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Exactly...Garner is not only hot but she seems like a totally sweet, awesome and talented woman...

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sycasey's avatar

Yup, there are plenty of talented people who produce good work and are total jerks in real life.

I'm not even sure Affleck is a total jerk anyway, but he does not seem to have good instincts with romantic relationships. This is why Gone Girl is one of his best roles.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

I'll put his turn in The Town up against anything he's done...he was great. Now that's a movie!

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sycasey's avatar

He's been a really impressive director. That might be my favorite one he's done.

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paulie's avatar

I couldn't get into Kingstown...it just had too many tropes dressed up in "grit" but I am not a very good judge of quality either

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Did you try 1883, paulie? That's also top notch....Taylor Sheridan, again....

I'm convinced that the guy is living a real life Jon Lovitz as Picasso on SNL....EVERYTHING he does right now turns to gold..... "It's a PICASSO..."

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paulie's avatar

I like Sheridan yeah. I think I’m gonna give Yellowstone a shot since mrs Paulie is a fan of Costner

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clapdoc's avatar

A lot of the media was talking about how Yellowstone was a conservative show, but after watching it, a show that rails against rural land development and exploitation is not conservative v. liberal, but rural v. urban...

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paulie's avatar

I am intrigued...I grew up in a rural area and definitely feel the tension in rural vs urban

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clapdoc's avatar

While I'm sure there's some overlap, I found it interesting that the show depicts an opposition to various forms of land development, including wind farms, mining, casinos, etc. I'm sure there's more sympathy to natural conservation in the rural community than there is in the GQP National Committee.

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paulie's avatar

Sicario was insane

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I watched Swan Song on Apple TV+ over the weekend and I really liked it. Near future sci fi drama and slow burn. Great cast. It reminded me of a Black Mirror episode, due to its style and technology used in the movie was similar to other Black Mirror tech. I was expecting some sort of dark, black mirror twist the whole time.

I recommend giving it a watch.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Mahershala Ali is always fantastic.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

He really is.

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Terence's avatar

Our Crumbling Democracy

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SGBear's avatar

Gym Jordan doesn't want to cooperate with 1/6 Commission. Gee, I wonder why.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/09/politics/jim-jordan-house-january-6-commitee/index.html

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SGBear's avatar

When you never took Poli Sci because you only passed your GED only 20 months ago

https://twitter.com/laurenboebert/status/1480282088330907659

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Terence's avatar

Today in Omicron

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DC Trojan's avatar

I had an interesting conversation with my daughters who were saying that at some point, if their schools persist in having in-person classes but make students who test positive quarantine for 10 days, *without* having any accommodation, you're just screwing over kids at random instead of an equitably shitty remote school option. Both of them absolutely hated zoom school / college, so the fact that they're willing to contemplate it for both community spread and fairness is interesting to me.

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clapdoc's avatar

Trials and Court systems in Southern California are continuing to get shut down.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

I would've bet $$$ Saturday that I'd caught it...I had a sneezing fit in the late am, which as an allergy sufferer was only unusual in that I rattled off 7-8 in a 15 minute period. I started to feel chills & real achy, with a scratchy throat, and an uncontrollable runny nose...

I took the COVID test and it was negative...before bed I mixed an Emergen-Cee with an Airborne tablet in a pint glass and used it to wash down some Tylenol and a Benadryl, and woke up Sunday feeling fine....strange.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Not to scare you, but my mom tested negative, with coughing and runny nose, the same night after I tested positive. She called her PCP and he had her schedule a test a couple of days later through the hospital and it came back positive. Maybe wait a day or two and re-test.

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clapdoc's avatar

When I had my nasty infection, I scheduled rapid tests two days apart.

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TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

My brother's girlfriend is a preschool director, and they're doing Zoom school this week.

“Violet, I can’t hear you. Do you see the red microphone? Can you tap it? It says unmute, U-N-M-U-T-E. I think mommy and daddy are busy right now.”

(reminds me of my director's issues with Zoom)

“What do we need to pack in our suitcase to visit Martina in Italy? A COVID test, because coronavirus is very serious, and we don’t want to spread it. Yes, that’s right, Bennet, vaccines do help!”

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sycasey's avatar

Yeah, Zoom school for kids under 7 is pretty much a joke. You may as well just take the day off.

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goldenone's avatar

Nephew goes back to 5th grade tomorrow after 10-day quarantine, tested positive twice but never had any symptoms.

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paulie's avatar

I'm glad he is OK!

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goldenone's avatar

Thanks

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SGBear's avatar

Had to convince a friend that holding an omicron party was a bad idea. I also had to convince her that the science "was still not out there". THERE IS SO MUCH FUCKING DATA OUT THERE. I LOVE YOU, BUT GET YOUR FUCKING HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS.

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sycasey's avatar

Good heavens. Sure, probably almost everyone is going to catch it, but don't TRY to catch it. Especially in the middle of a big surge when hospitals are filling up!

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SGBear's avatar

WTF. California ruled that healthworkers that are exposed to Covid and are asymptomatic can return to work without quarantine and WITHOUT TESTING.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/california-issues-new-guidance-on-quarantine-and-isolation-for-healthcare-workers/2834540/

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Scootie's avatar

Uh, they actually ruled that asymptomatic healthcare workers WHO HAVE TESTED POSITIVE can continue to work. WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

my bro-in-law in Philly is in the same boat and of the same attitude.

his wife (who we were skiing w/ all week over Xmas) had symptoms and tested positive. he nor all his kids even got tested and continued about their business until they had symptoms.

somehow, luckily, our entire family, who were also in the same ski cabin, all tested negative.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Yeah I don't see how you guys didn't get it.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

maybe the tests just dont work on us!

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sycasey's avatar

Tradeoffs. The consequences for health care workers missing additional time are worse than for just sending them back to work.

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Scootie's avatar

Sending them to work with patients, more than a few of whom they are likely to infect?

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sycasey's avatar

Honestly? People who visit hospitals filled with COVID patients are likely to be exposed to it anyway. I'm not saying that's good, just that it's probably the least bad option to have people come to work when they're not actively sick (no symptoms).

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Scootie's avatar

Symptoms don't necessarily have anything to do with infectiousness though.

Do you advocate for no isolation in general, ready to just let it rip in the hopes that then we'll be done?

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sycasey's avatar

No I don't, but I understand why we need hospital workers to be able to work right now. It's not better if hospitals have to close down because they lack enough staff.

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paulie's avatar

for the executives, yes

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sycasey's avatar

For people who need to visit hospitals and need them to be staffed.

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paulie's avatar

The staffing ship sailed long ago before COVID.

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sycasey's avatar

I don't understand this point. Hospitals need people NOW, hence there have to be public-health tradeoffs. Yes, you can argue that there should have been better staffing in the first place, but that doesn't help the situation now.

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paulie's avatar

I mean the terrible working conditions (low pay, hostile patients, hostile administration, lack of benefits) for health care workers was established way before COVID. COVID made things worse.

And instead of providing hazard pay, helping with health care for kids, providing sufficient PPE, workers got hosed.

I got a pay cut last year while the hospital was profitable through COVID times.

People need care, sure, but not at the expense of the people providing the care.

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sycasey's avatar

I can't comment on the specifics of labor relations in that industry, but I certainly don't support bad working conditions or bad pay/benefits in any scenario.

Those are a bit separate from the question of whether or not the state's guidelines should allow health care workers to return after symptoms recede. If the workers are not symptomatic, I'm going to assume they are no longer personally in danger from COVID-19. Yes, there is a danger of further spread in the workplace, but if you're in a place with a lot of COVID patients anyway I'm not sure how much difference that makes. You've already been exposed and so has just about everyone else there.

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paulie's avatar

I don't see the the issues as separate, I suppose. Just to "allow health care workers to return" assumes a lot about the people doing the actual work, and whether or not its actually worth it to them to do it, regardless of public health implications.

In regard to COVID risk, the Delta and Omicron variants have proven to be much more transmissible than the first wave. Though I actually think being in a well-resourced hospital is a pretty safe place given the availability of N95s, face shields, etc

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sycasey's avatar

I don't want to challenge the right margin any further here, but your previous comment was that the "staffing ship had sailed long before COVID." That indicates that these are issues that go beyond the current Omicron situation. Maybe workers don't want to work in hospitals anymore because working conditions are too bad. Okay, maybe that's true.

But the state's guidelines are not about MAKING people work in hospitals, just saying that in their view, hospital workers MAY return on an accelerated timeline now because of the pressing need. If they don't WANT to return that's also a problem, but not something that the new state guidelines address one way or the other. They are simply addressing the immediate issue of forced quarantines creating a short-staffing emergency. The longer-term labor issues need to be addressed within the industry.

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O.Overall's avatar

Similarly, in San Mateo your kid is ok to go to school if asymptomatic even if others in household are positive. OTOH you have to take mandatory tests to go to school (and submit results to school) if any classmates have tested positive. 2 of my 3 kids had to get tested yesterday for that reason. I feel bad for the school principal, she is sending emails all hours of the night, on weekends, seems so overworked

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sycasey's avatar

It's been a real nightmare in some schools. Thankfully my kid's school has managed to stay open and operational, but I know other places have big issues.

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SGBear's avatar

Went to the doctor today to get some blood drawn for my annual physical. It's a relatively new practice location, so it's normally dead quiet. Today, I was there for 45 minutes and the phone was ringing off the hook - 100% of the calls were people trying to get Covid tests.

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paulie's avatar

Thankfully Omicron seems to be less virulent, though it's so infectious the overall numbers in the hospitals are still terrible

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dcblue's avatar

Starting to have schedule adjustments in the DC area because of staffing problems. Some of the Smithsonian museums have adjusted the times they're open. And most busses are now running on reduced Saturday schedules. Also, bus drivers can bypass someone waiting if not wearing a mask.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

Klay is BACK -- W's win a relatively easy one.

go to see him out there. scored 17 points, was moving well.

there wasnt quite that chemistry w/ the team yet, but presumably that will come in time.

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I visited my sister and her husband over New Year's. They have NBA TV through my nephew and are big into the Dubs. Good thing Klay is back because they we're really tired of announcers saying his return was imminent. We watched a few games while I was there and my sister stunned me with the foul language she used watching the games. She was really into it.

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clapdoc's avatar

This team will be fun to watch in the playoffs assuming no major injuries.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

If Wiseman can integrate as well and give them 10 good minutes a game, the W's are going to be tough to beat. Unfortunately, they gotta find a way to beat the Memphis team...they're kryptonite.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

If he and Kuminga play enough to contribute 20+ min after Looney, that's 18 fouls they can throw at Giannis, Ayton, <insert big man here>.

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sycasey's avatar

That dunk tho.

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O.Overall's avatar

That got me fired up! They basically just need him to get in rhythm by the playoffs, which seems achievable. The 20 mins Kerr played him feels about right as to his workload.

This team is the deepest they have had since the 73 win team. Wiseman still to return!

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Kuminga looks like he'll be great in a year or two. If he and Wiseman can play up to their potential, the Warriors are going to be more of a force in a couple of years.

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dcblue's avatar

My sister got really tired of his free throw shooting.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

He was horrible the game we went to. The Nuggets game. Missed like his first 6 or something like that. He has looked much better since then. I think it just got into his head.

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dcblue's avatar

That was the one.

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Newellbany's avatar

Absolutely EXPLOSIVE. If he can do that, he's good to go.

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SGBear's avatar

Judge overrules Djokovid's visa cancellation. For now, he's allowed in Australia - but still unclear if he will play.

https://twitter.com/DjokerNole/status/1480529173789696001?s=20

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goldenone's avatar

Lions defeat Green Bay, Goff outduels Rodgers and Love, 37-30.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/recap/NFL_20220109_GB@DET/

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Newellbany's avatar

I'm confused - I thought love always wins.

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dcblue's avatar

Anybody pick up on the introductions last night? Keenan Allen said he went to "Berkeley University."

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Justbear's avatar

I think it's kinda nice. No one knows Cal = Berkeley, and those people don't know Berkeley has a football team.

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O.Overall's avatar

Instead of the dumb “what do you see” Cal commercial we have been running for 10+ years, I feel like a humorous one explaining that Cal and Berkeley are the same thing would be useful

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g.oso's avatar

why do people still care about this stuff?

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Newellbany's avatar

People only have so many fucks to give. I choose to put them towards unimportant things like this so that I can remain unbothered and calm in the face of any actual adversity that might come my way.

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goldenone's avatar

Curious. Well he didn't say Butte College.

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SGBear's avatar

SJ Shark's Evander Kane gets caught submitting fake vaccine card, gets released, clears waivers and loses his $22.9m contract for his efforts. #FAFO

https://www.tsn.ca/san-jose-sharks-evander-kane-unconditional-waivers-1.1743502

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Newellbany's avatar

When these dudes talk about "doing their own research" on the vaccine, they should have done the same for their contractual risks.

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paulie's avatar

that guy has issues

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Scootie's avatar

many, many issues. lot of evidence that he is not a good person.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

NFL firing season has commenced.

Confirmed vacancies/openings:

Jacksonville

Miami

Denver

Minnesota

Chicago

Las Vegas

Speculated:

NY Giants

Houston Texans

Biggest surprise so far has to be Miami.

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HaasBear's avatar

I assume the Miami firing means coach GA is out too. Hoping for a return to Cal. Let’s get the Takers Back!!!

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Scootie's avatar

I posted this late one evening so nobody saw it by Terence -- were you all aware that our favorite adult Andre Carter was the DL coach at LSU this season? Departing along with EO. I'd love to have him come home.

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Cugel's avatar

I saw it!

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Newellbany's avatar

oh please, oh please, oh please!

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SGBear's avatar

Now that Mike Zimmer is fired, he'll be forced to hang out with his girlfriend who is 25 years his junior

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/mike-zimmer-girlfriend-model-katarina-miketin/1vczhq57fluh218b3uzd5na1d9

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Zimmer's a cantankerous putz...good riddance.

Gotta wonder if Katarina will be looking for a new beau now that he's been schittcanned....

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I think the golden parachute will keep her around a little longer.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Wow, Flores is great. It’s not his fault the idiot GM drafted noodle-armed Tua over the cyborg that IS Justin Herbert. BF will get picked up immediately.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets one of the vacant HC jobs. If he doesn’t, the Chargers should hire him as their DC.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

I didn’t love the hire, but think David Culley should get another year in Houston. That team is light on NFL talent but played hard all year, despite the Deshaun Watson circus.

Speaking of circus, the Mara family, or whomever owns the New York Football Giants now, join the Ownership Malpractice Hall of Fame if they bring back Joe Judge &/or Gettelman...the fan base has quit on the team - read the room!

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49ers make the playoffs after winning a finalist for game of the year over the NFC West division winning Rams at SoFi

Jimmy Garoppolo with a perfect Jimmy Garoppolo-type day, leading a brilliant game-tying drive to tie after throwing a devastating pick, his 2nd awful INT of the game, in the opposing team’s end zone. But he played well with his apparently injured hand, showing absolutely no ill effects despite his thumb “hanging by a tendon.” Good Jimmy outshined Bad Jimmy, tho both made plenty of appearances.

Niners at Dallas next Sunday, 1:30 PST kick.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Cowboys are gonna kill the 49ers.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Vegas, which knows better than all of us because they have a time machine, doesn't think so. 3 point spread.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Bill Walsh had a phrase about slightly better than mediocre QBS - "He's just good enough to beat you." Walsh used that phrase to describe Steve DeBerg, just before DeBerg was supplanted by a kid with skinny legs named Joe Montana.

Garoppolo is just good enough to beat you.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I thought it was “just good enough to get you beat” as in the head coach of the slightly better than mediocre QB.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Vegas is just reflecting the mood of the betting public. Or, in this case, Vegas is punting because favoring the Cowboys by 3 at home is the same as saying, "We rate the two teams to be about equal but home field advantage belongs to the Cowboys."

Which is a nice way of saying, "We have no idea who should be favored. Tell us, O Great Betting Public, so we can appropriately adjust the line."

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sycasey's avatar

Theoretically the Cowboys should be better and have the better QB and should win, but Dak and their offense have looked shaky lately.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

The Niners secondary will have their hands full, but their D-line is dominating games right now. Plus, Dallas is middle of the road v. the rush, and that'll allow the Niners to eat some clock, and keep that erratic Cowboys O off the field.

Plus, Shanahan was OC on Dan Quinn's Super Bowl team in Atlanta....he went up against that defense every day in practice. He'll find some wrinkles.

Niners win going away, provided Garoppolo doesn't cost them the game like he did at Tennessee.....Run....the....football!!!

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sycasey's avatar

That makes sense to me. 49ers have a decent shot because they can potentially play keep-away from the Cowboys with long run-heavy drives.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Well, the initial line is what it is, set by guys like Ace Rothstein from Casino, that know a thing or two about these teams...the 3 points is the slimmest margin of all the Wildcard round games, and means this game would basically be a pick 'em on a neutral field.

I think the Niners are a real tough matchup for Dallas...the Cardinals just housed the Cowboys at AT&T behind the running game and defensive pressure, which the Niners do better than anyone in football.

I think SF controls the line of scrimmage, and runs all day long on Dallas, and forces some turnovers. But other than a rematch with the Rams, Dallas was the next best option, as there's no way Garoppolo would outduel Brady, and Kingsbury (inexplicably) owns Shanahan.

That said, the Niners could get blown out the following week at Lambeau...I'm rooting hard for a Philly upset in Tampa.

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sycasey's avatar

Worth noting the Niners also played GB close earlier this season, so I wouldn't say they're hopeless in that potential matchup either. Of course, that game was in Santa Clara and playing at Lambeau is another matter.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

My reasoning is more Jimmy G. on the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field is a different animal than at home in the South Bay…

THAT being said, the Niners style of play (tough, physical & running the football/play solid D) does travel, so provided Garoppolo doesn’t absolutely kill them with TOs like he’s apt to do, they gotta shot v anyone.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

It could be a reverse 93 or 94 NFC title game.

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sycasey's avatar

I would say the first pick wasn't terrible. He got hit as he threw, so the ball sailed.

Second pick was bad. Yes, Ramsey had to make a great catch, and yes Jimmy did get roughed after the pass and it should have been flagged (based on current rules). But he had time to make the throw and it was way behind Kittle. A good throw might have been a TD.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Well, the common denominator in most of Garoppolo's picks is the decision itself...he locks in on guys way too often and throws into double & triple coverage...the hit to the head that should've been called doesn't change the decision to throw into triple coverage itself, in both instances. And agreed, he was hit on the first duck, but again, the intended target was triple teamed.

That said, tho I can't wait for the Garoppolo era in San Francisco to come to an end, I DO tip my cap to him for the two drives yesterday - the one to tie it and the FG drive. Good Jimmy!

I think they beat Dallas.

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sycasey's avatar

I'm not sure I can even judge "triple teamed" on the first INT, since him getting hit caused the ball to sail well off target. Who was he even trying to hit on that throw? I don't know.

The other thing is that a lot of this offense with Jimmy G is based on timing throws that are fit into tight windows, intending to split the zones. When it works well it looks beautiful -- think of those seam passes that hit Deebo or Aiyuk or Kittle in stride and they take off for a bunch of extra yards after catch. Those are the timing throws. Yes, there are multiple defenders around the receiver, but if you hit that throw on time you can get big gains.

On that second INT, it looked like Kittle was coming open if the throw had been on target. The inside defender wouldn't have been able to reach it in time, and I would trust Kittle to win a 50/50 ball in the air anyway. The problem is that the throw was way behind him, which allowed the trailing defender (Ramsay) to get a hand on it where Kittle couldn't. And yes, that's on Jimmy. The decision isn't bad if the throw is accurate, but we've seen this with him where his accuracy is not consistent and it results in these kinds of bad picks. Tom Brady makes the same throws but he's more consistently accurate.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Well, that's fair...but the main criticism of Jimmy G is that in addition to being inconsistent with his accuracy, he's basically a one read QB that pre-determines where he's going with the football before the ball is snapped...part of this is his lack of mobility, and helps to explain why he gets the ball out so quickly.

The nuances of the QB position do escape him - Brady is more consistently accurate, but ALSO processes the game much quicker and better than Garoppolo (no surprise - TB12's the greatest), who rarely works through his progressions. Brady gets to 2nd and 3rd reads far more than Garoppolo, who rarely does.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I forgot about that injury so he gets somewhat of a pass for the Bad Jimmy play.

That second pick was a bad throw but a great juggling catch by Ramsey for the pick.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

I’m skeptical Garoppolo is as injured as his camp would like you to believe, and think that thumb injury was more damage control after he schitt the bed in Tennessee on national tv. Remember, he’s due $27M next year if he’s traded...he probably won’t get anything close to that if he’s simply released.

And he looked like the exact same player as he always has.

Great play by Ramsey, but a terrible throw & awful decision by JG, forcing a throw behind Kittle, who was triple teamed. Dumb a$$ play.

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paulie's avatar

https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1480255514953007112

is this the equivalent of running the punt block defense on madden?

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Terence's avatar

THE AUTUMN WIND IS A PIRATE

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Newellbany's avatar

OK, but what about winter squall? You know what, who cares. They left the town - they're dead to me.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Yeah, but it was fun to see the Raiders beat the Chargers, nonetheless.

Also Steelers fan at Allegiant Stadium. After seeing that guy in a crowd shot, I was actually rooting for a tie game. A tie would have eliminated the Steelers and put both the Raiders and the Chargers in the playoffs. (or at least that's what the Chronicle claimed).

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I was really hoping for a tie. I think the Chargers screwed themselves by calling the TO at the end there.

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Newellbany's avatar

They should have the last week of the season play all at once, like in the World Cup how the last games for each group are played simultaneously. Maybe play the whole AFC at 4pm ET on Saturday and then do the NFC at 4pm on Sunday. That way, you'd minimize the chance of teams sandbagging.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

That's what the MLB did on the last day of the regular season. Prevented the late teams from being able to adjust pitching based on the earlier games.

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Cugel's avatar

I really don't think NFL teams actually do sandbag - why would the Lions even want to win if that were the case? Or Jacksonville? Runs against their ethos.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I think one reason you don’t see it is a lot of player contracts are tied to incentives so while they game might not mean much in terms of playoffs, it could mean something financially for the players.

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Cugel's avatar

Maybe, but I think the main reason is that it's such a macho, physical and violent game that you view the results as a test of your manhood, or something like that.

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sycasey's avatar

Plus it's one game per week that you spend six days gearing up for. If you're not going to play hard, why even show up? This isn't like baseball or basketball where it's a long schedule and players regularly take days off.

The main way teams can sandbag is by pulling their starters and letting the backups play. Otherwise it seems like they play hard when they're on the field.

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Cugel's avatar

o/

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Cugel's avatar

My son was all in on the conspiracy theory that the teams would play for a tie - I seriously doubted that, and the teams didn't play like that at all. Fantastically fun game Chargers made 4 4th downs in a row to tie it up.

Wow

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heyalumnigo's avatar

In OT I think the Chargers were playing for the tie. Not calling TO to stop the clock, except on the last play before the FG. This article makes a good point that the Raiders wanted to win so they wouldn't have to meet the Chiefs. They played it such that the Chargers would never get the ball back. If they hadn't gained 10 yards on the play after the TO, they probably would've kneeled it instead of kicking a 55+ yard FG and possibly having a block returned for a TD or a long, missed FG returned for a TD.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33032641/raiders-win-make-nfl-playoffs-did-chargers-blow-teams-played-tie-wild-ending-explained

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Cugel's avatar

Didn't look that way to me on their drive that ended in the FG, sure when the Raiders had the ball, they might have been HOPING for a tie, but that's not the same thing as PLAYing for a tie.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I think they still attempt the FG even if they didn’t gain another yard. Carson has the leg to kick that distance so the odds of him kicking short and it being returned is low, same with it being blocked.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I was also hoping for the tie but I understand the TO and thought it was the right call. The problem is the Chargers run defense is terrible and I’m sure the defense was tired.

I was kind of shocked that Staley didn’t go for 2 to win the game after the Chargers scored the TD at the end of regulation.

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sycasey's avatar

That's just it, the Raiders still tried a fairly conservative run after the time out, it's just that they gained 10 yards and got into field goal range. May as well kick it at that point.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Well the Raiders were already in long FG range. If they didn’t gain another yard it would have been a 57 yard attempt, Carlson has been money all season long and has hit from 56 so I think, other than a penalty or a tackle for a loss the Raiders were going to attempt the FG. The long run just made it an easier attempt.

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sycasey's avatar

I think on a 55+ yard field goal you think about the bad things that can happen. The kicker has to get more distance so might try to kick it lower, higher chance of a block, etc. Might not be worth it to kick, when a tie game is perfectly fine for you.

Get it inside 50 yards and it's a more normal kick so you just do it.

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Justbear's avatar

I was confused after game when they said they thought about playing for a tie. They could miss a FG, but it would still end in a tie. So what was there to lose if they attempt a long FG?

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Cugel's avatar

Blocked and ran back.

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Justbear's avatar

I guess. The risk was minimal but still a zero risk is better if you are guaranteed a playoff spot. Btw why would it not go to double OT?

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sycasey's avatar

There is no double OT in the regular season. Only in the playoffs.

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sycasey's avatar

Yup. That's typically a very unlikely scenario, but it becomes more likely the further out you try the kick, because the kicker has to kick it lower for distance. And of course the return team doesn't have to run as far to score a TD.

But once it was a 47-yarder I think they weren't too worried about that.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Agreed - Staley’s such an analytics boob there must have been a reason for kick the PAT.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Yeah, that’s what was so surprising. He went for it on 4th and 1 inside his own 20 and I just thought that the Chargers would go for 2 if they scored. I was surprised they didn’t.

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Fire Starkey's avatar

because if the game finished tied, both teams would've gone to the playoffs and the Steelers wouldve been out. Little benefit to going for 2 at the end of the 4th Q

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sycasey's avatar

I think you have to assume the chances of winning in OT are roughly 50/50 (without knowing the result of the coin toss). The chances of scoring on any given 2 point conversion are lower than that. So in terms of analytics that decision is probably a wash, maybe even slightly favoring the PAT.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Good point. I think the chargers also screwed themselves on their OT series when they abandoned the run before they tied it again on the FG.

Chargers ran the ball on 1st down for 4 yards and then went incomplete pass and incomplete pass. They should have at least ran it again on 2nd down to try to kill some more clock.

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Terence's avatar

Other College

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

classes remote until Jan 31, which makes me think that my on-campus event on Jan 28 might get postponed or cancelled.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I think it'll go longer than that. UCSC wanted students to try to get back by this weekend with online classes going until this coming Friday. With students coming back they had more positives so they went virtual until 1/31. I think they'll see a higher spike and be virtual past 1/31. I guess they're hoping students that stay home get it so they won't get positive later?

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

on the other hand, our kids went back to in person school today after being home for a week.

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Newellbany's avatar

Go Bears!!!

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