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GoldenSD81's avatar

So my wife and I were discussing this. Do you consider him a terrorist and what he did a terrorist act? It seems like he was motivated by mentally illness and conspiracy theories but not politically motivated and it seems like he did not want to kill people.

TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

I consider him a terrorist. His goal was to incite terror, he caused major infrastructure damage, and I'm tired of this: https://imgur.com/gallery/elnLWs9

heyalumnigo's avatar

I mean Trump didn't say a single thing about it. At all (as far as I remember). You can bet your shit that he would've hammered it in us if the terrorist's skin color was in the bottom half of that graphic.

DC Trojan's avatar

if it's terrorism when a couple of eco-fundamentalists burn some pickup trucks, then it's terrorism when some lizard people nutter blows up half a block

SGBear's avatar

Tanya Roberts (Bond Girl, Beastmaster, that 70s Show) passes away. Not due to Covid.

https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/03/tanya-roberts-dead-dies-sheena-that-70s-show-bond-girl/

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

NOOOO. She was great in Beast-master & View to a Kill

DC Trojan's avatar

I hadn't realized they were all the same woman. I thought she was hilarious on That 70s Show.

SGBear's avatar

Today in Covid

AndyPanda's avatar

No one thought an "air-powered holiday costume" might not be the best idea under current circumstances?

Wiata78's avatar

How do you know it was a dinosaur? I figured it was a snowman.

TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

It was a tree. JUST SAY NO TO TREE COSTUMES.

SGBear's avatar

Is it weird that a south Florida county is using Eventbrite to organize vaccine distribution?

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/florida-health-department-covid-19-vaccinations-tickets-134589156791

g.oso's avatar

made my appt for my second dose for next Monday. Was told to expect to possibly miss work the next day bc of symptoms, either fever/chills and/or muscle aches.

heyalumnigo's avatar

I saw an article where someone was saying the 2nd dose should be delayed. I assume they mean longer than what they were proposing between doses.

Scootie's avatar

There is a school of thought that you could delay second doses to get more first doses into arms, thereby giving more people a bit of immunity faster. There is a correlating school of thought that this could be the exact recipe for creating vaccine-resistant virus, and it might be slightly insane. The thing is, nobody really knows.

heyalumnigo's avatar

ah...I see. I didn't read it so your explanation makes sense.

g.oso's avatar

And I'm reading there's a lot of healthcare workers who are saying no to the vaccine.

But i'll be getting my second dose as soon as I can. The Walgreen's rollout is a clusterfuck right now. But at least we're not Florida who's using EventBrite to schedule appointments.

heyalumnigo's avatar

Why are healthcare workers saying no? Are they unsure of the vaccine?

Scootie's avatar

Oh I'm with you. I'll be heading to my appointment just as soon as I'm eligible for one, I don't care if it's at 2:17 AM. And I'll be looking for my second dose three weeks later.

DC Trojan's avatar

I shall be penciling in something on my calendar for September I guess

SGBear's avatar

Elsewhere in college

SGBear's avatar

You are Cincy and up by 2 over Georgia, 3rd-and-2 at your own 40 with 1:34 to go and your opponent is out of timeouts. Your dynamic running back averages 6.6 YPC and is averaging 12.1 yards this game.

Do you,

a) run the ball so that even if you don't make it, you leave so little time and give your opponent such bad field position that it is nearly impossible to win

b) do what Cincy did

Meanwhile, D-Rob finishes his 3rd season away from Cal with 12 catches for 110 yards (vs. 50 for 767 as a freshman at Cal). He wasn't a starter as a RS-Senior.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/recap?gameId=401256108

Berkelium97's avatar

And on their previous set of downs they passed (again, ignoring that dynamic RB) to a TE who opted not to go down inbounds and on the next play they snapped the ball with 12 seconds left on the play clock. They ended up getting the first down, but it didn't matter because they used so little clock. That was a masterpiece of bad clock management.

AndyPanda's avatar

The one thing that's more ubiquitous than atrocious officiating in CFB (and levels below) is atrocious game and clock management. It's not everyone, as there are some coaches at the college (and high school) level that are good at it, but there are an alarming number who seem to avoid it at all cost. I would say I couldn't believe my eyes, except I could, having seem too many similar ridiculous mistakes before.

All I can think of is a cultural ego issue of fascination with bold actions which when they work are spectacular. Unfortunately, they usually don't work. Cincy, and to a degree, Coastal Carolina, set back the cause of the non-blue blood elite several years in a matter of a couple of minutes of inability to manage end of game situations correctly, wiping out the benefits of managing most elements of their programs exemplary all year.

DC Trojan's avatar

I enjoyed watching Notre Dame be processed through the Alabama football machine, fwiw.

AndyPanda's avatar

It was remarkably predictable, right down to the back door cover.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Exactly...meaningless TD with :56 remaining to cover the 19.5

Cugel's avatar

Sark hire, Herman firing (after Texas won its bowl game) - dumbest hire of all time? Yea or Nay?

Ruey Yen's avatar

I don't understand this move at all from Texas' POV, but someone was bound to give sark another shot as the head coach.

Fire Starkey's avatar

Firing Herman was a given, the big money boosters hated him, some players hated him and they were telling recruits to stay away. Losing Ewers (next Trevor Lawrence allegedly) and a 4 star WR from the '22 class was the nail in the coffin. Losing dumb games didnt help. So with all that momentum, I understand why he was chopped since $ is not an issue at UT. The baffling move is Sark. Apparently he has completely rehabbed his image and was being whispered as the unofficial coach in waiting at Alabama. Has a tremendous reputation there. But unless the alcoholism was the sole reason for his coaching mediocity before, I dont get it. Urban wasnt coming but was Sark really the next best available? I'm just dumbfounded, honestly. We'll see I guess

heyalumnigo's avatar

Unless Sark learned from his $C experience, I don't see this going well. He's a good OC but I wonder if Tom Herman will have had better results after 4 years than Sark.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Texas will be buying Sark out after 4 years as well...he's a career coordinator.

goldenone's avatar

Also Sark has to stay off the grog at 9:30 in the morning.

AndyPanda's avatar

Indications are that has been taken care of. The pressure cooker might be set a little higher at Texas even than it was at 'Bama though. I seriously hope that issue does not resurface.

Fire Starkey's avatar

Herman had to go for a variety of reasons but Sark...so many sighs

AndyPanda's avatar

Clearly, someone in the investor group thinks Sark is the answer to a more consistent offense, though that isn't where the primary problem has laid. Sark's success will depend on his choice for DC & for lead recruiter.

AndyPanda's avatar

(Which may or may not be at his discretion.)

SGBear's avatar

When did you go to undergrad -- without using dates in your answer?

heyalumnigo's avatar

Olympics in South Korea, Rodney King Riots, Tiananmen Square, Fall of communism, NYD Bowl, Olympics in Spain

SGBear's avatar

Freshman tuition: $7/year

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Kidd and Murray hand Coach K an L

HeyStudentsBears's avatar

i had just graduated. i didnt go to the Duke game in Chicago, but i drove to St Loius for the game vs Kansas that we lost in the next round.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

We had no answer for Rex Walters & Adonis Jordan but man, that was an epic 10 days. Newellbany & I watched that one as we drank away the week of Spring Break

heyalumnigo's avatar

Gotta tell Newellbany to get back on the DBD!

Wiata78's avatar

That’s a fun memory!

heyalumnigo's avatar

Was at Kips underground for that. It was a madhouse in there.

Wiata78's avatar

I think I was on CGB! That was sort of a madhouse too. “Duke is going down!”

SGBear's avatar

Henry's shooting, Rosebud Denovo, That is the Only Song You Know, Naked Guy

Wiata78's avatar

My tuition was 212.50 per quarter.

Wiata78's avatar

Ok, I was starting to think you’re really old!

Wiata78's avatar

PAC-8 co-champions

HeyStudentsBears's avatar

Bay Bridge WS interrupted by earthquake.

Cal beats Clemson in Citrus Bowl

tuition went from $500/semester to $3000+ in 4 yrs.

CalGal2004's avatar

Tuition: $212.50 per quarter. IBM punch cards. It's on the Roof! Sitting in Dwinelle watching it snow. Joe Roth. Garden State Bowl. Pete Cutino. Calympians missing the Moscow Olympics.

Wiata78's avatar

It’s on the Roof creator was a Bowlesman :)

Wiata78's avatar

Hey $212.50 was way before 2004? I also remember those punch cards in Evans. My roommate used to get paper from the recycling bins and use it to do his homework...Maybe we knew each other back in the day.

CalGal2004's avatar

>>> before 2004?

yep, way!

dcblue's avatar

For better or worse I remember IBM punch cards in the basement of Evans. A bit before you're time though.

CalGal2004's avatar

i remember my engineering friends carrying armloads of those punch cards from Unit 3 to Evans to run their projects late at night, praying they didn't drop any or get them out of order.

Scootie's avatar

I think my freshman year was the last year of punch cards.

heyalumnigo's avatar

Bubble Lady doesn't necessarily narrow down a timeframe since she covered multiple decades I think.

CalGal2004's avatar

true thing. (but then again maybe it took decades to earn that undergrad...?!?)

CruzinBears's avatar

The Governator signed my diploma

GB III's avatar

Watched Hardy Nickerson play

Scootie's avatar

The advent of Ecstasy.

Tangtpt's avatar

3 bowl games in 4 years.

heyalumnigo's avatar

A blocked game winning FG, multiple personal foul penalties, and roughing the passer in 3 of the 4 big game losses.

Berkelium97's avatar

4 bowl games in 4 years

Berkelium97's avatar

Actually, 4-game bowl winning streak is more accurate.

goldenone's avatar

era of Bruce Snyder and the idiot Bockrath plus Gilby.

DC Trojan's avatar

collapse of the Soviet Union, Rodney King Riots.

GoldenSD81's avatar

Dotcom bubble bursted freshman year, 9/11 sophomore year, Rose Bowl stolen and Godgers senior year.

GoldenSD81's avatar

Road to Perdition is an underrated movie.

Ruey Yen's avatar

I enjoyed it when I watched it when it came out when I was at Cal for undergrad (answering the other thread), but have not rewatched it since.

Cugel's avatar

Really? 72 Metacritic score seems right to me; good, not great.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Don’t mean to be incendiarily contrary, Cug, but isn’t that what makes it underrated?

Cugel's avatar

well, if it was great, sure, but it's a long way from that.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Very much so. Solid effort.

GoldenSD81's avatar

The Road, I enjoyed the book and the movie adaptation wasn’t bad.

Scootie's avatar

I thought the book was great, but would not say I "enjoyed" it.

SGBear's avatar

OUR CRUMBLING DEMOCRACY

heyalumnigo's avatar

Every afternoon in Lafayette the Trumpers setup shop on the overpass after the Pleasant Hill Road off-ramp. Sucks because it slows down traffic.

dcblue's avatar

No Proud Boy sightings yet but I did see a big Trump flag flying in front of one house. Sticks out like a sore thumb in very blue Arlington.

heyalumnigo's avatar

Salem Oregon, proud boys protest and get arrested by the cops. I saw a video somewhere of the proud boys getting mad that the cops were pushing them back and arresting them. They stomped on the thin blue line flags.

Cugel's avatar

"Tommy Tuberville is probably fuming right now wondering why he didn’t get to vote against Pelosi"

dcblue's avatar

This link was embedded in a George Will column online today. About sums things up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRtQ0LVCuIQ

DC Trojan's avatar

"At first I thought new mothers were a bunch of slackers, and then I had a baby & discovered it can be quite difficult"

https://twitter.com/EmilyRPeck/status/1346162346008465410?s=20

Portrait of political imagination 🙄

TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

The imagination reminded me of this: https://twitter.com/chaedria/status/1346207828726280192?s=20

@chaedria: Gate keeping is not a personality trait. Gate keeping is the crimson red flag of having no imagination and being terrified of finding one.

dcblue's avatar

The White House confirmed that Trump plans Monday to present Rep. Devin Nunes with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian honor, calling the California Republican “a public servant of unmatched talent, unassailable integrity, and unwavering resolve.”

I've lived away from California for a long time so will let you all respond appropriately.

Scootie's avatar

He sued a fake cow. I mean...

DC Trojan's avatar

I read the transcript of the call Trump and his lawyers had with the Georgia Secretary of Ste. The word "breathtaking" definitely applies here.

SGBear's avatar

Remember when Kellyanne Conway coined the term "alternative facts" and we laughed at the ridiculousness of the concept. Four years later, we have a smoking gun of the President trying to overturn a free and fair election, and not a GD thing will happen. Alternative facts are a real thing because power corrupts

goldenone's avatar

A Republican party clearly gaslighting the nation, as we descend into a collective psychosis.

Cugel's avatar

I kinda wonder if he's really lost his grip on reality.

g.oso's avatar

Now? 4 years later you're wondering this?

Cugel's avatar

Eh, before most of it seemed like a knowing act, not actual delusion; I think losing might have cost him his what was left of his mind.

Wiata78's avatar

You can hear the audio, and then lose your mind as well as your breath.

SGBear's avatar

The transcripts are easier to read than listen to the audio. It's got so many conspiracy theories in it.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-phone-call-transcript-with-georgia-secretary-of-state-says-he-wants-to-find-votes

Berkelium97's avatar

I got halfway through his opening rant and then my eyes glazed over.

DC Trojan's avatar

I've listened to excerpts, it's about what I expected.

heyalumnigo's avatar

Looks like he got screwed on the review for what would've been his 3rd TD.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Coulda gone either way, depending on the initial call. Definitely a questionable overturn tho.

heyalumnigo's avatar

I think the initial call was TD and I didn't see any overwhelming evidence that it was a drop.

heyalumnigo's avatar

I say this because they were celebrating way too long for it to have been called a drop.

SGBear's avatar

Down by 3, Eagle's Pederson benches Jalen Hurts for [checks notes] Nate Sudfeld. Within 5 plays, Sudfeld has one INT and one lost fumble.

https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/status/1345938843992780801

Cugel's avatar

Just about an all-time dumb move UNLESS the whole point was to screw the Giants, in which case "Mission Accomplished"

goldenone's avatar

Aaron Rodgers after a great game against the Bears yesterday deserves another MVP award, especially because Mahomes and the Chiefs lost to the Chargers.

Ruey Yen's avatar

This year, even without another championship, is already a big difference-maker for Aaron Rodgers' NFL legacy. Rodgers was somehow (it was understandable but debatable) left out of the Top 100 NFL 100 anniversary team that was announced in 2019. If they re-select that team now, it would be hard to leave him off.

heyalumnigo's avatar

Also I guess technically the loss isn't on Mahomes since he didn't play, but point taken. Either way, I think Rodgers should be the MVP this season.

Ruey Yen's avatar

Josh Allen is also in the conversation, but all signs point to Rodgers earning a 3rd MVP (the main one as voted by the AP).

goldenone's avatar

That's right mahomes was held out.

heyalumnigo's avatar

Rodgers is almost like playing in God mode this season. He's making all the right reads and is pinpoint accurate. That call on the blitz for the long TD was glorious. He and Davante Adams are on the same page in all situations.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Not only is Rodgers playing at an elite level, but he's also in full-on F-YOU mode after GB drafted Jordan Love...as a Cal & Rodgers fan, his pass #'s on goal-to-go are an awesome sight to see....as an owner of Aaron Jones this past year, they were not so awesome.

heyalumnigo's avatar

I saw a stat where the last 20+ goal to go situations all resulted in TDs.

All you needed for fantasy this year was Davante Adams, Rodgers, and Tonyan (who you probably could've picked up off waivers early in the season).

It's a shame he couldn't do it in 2004...too soon?

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Yes, still too soon....that's like those old Macho Grande wounds in Airplane II...they cut pretty deep.

Cugel's avatar

Never seen Airplane II, watched Idiocracy Saturday, was just ok IMO.

GoldenSD81's avatar

King Henry rushes for over 2,000 yards. He dominated the Texans.

GoldenSD81's avatar

Herbert exceeded all expectations and had a great rookie season and set a lot of rookie records.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Herbert's twice the QB Tua is, with a higher ceiling as well - he can improve accuracy & touch on shorter passes, and run more. Tough break for Lynn - he seems like a good dude, but that team looked sooooo lost on sooooo many occasions...how many times can a coach ice his own kicker?

goldenone's avatar

Rams win with defense in the absence of Goff. Clearly the "Goffense" has to pick it up.

g.oso's avatar

Maybe Goff is the problem with the Goffense

sycasey's avatar

The Rams scored 18 points in this game. 7 on a pick-six and another 2 on a safety. I'm not sure three field goals is a great endorsement for the non-Goff Rams offense.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Agreed - it's not like this kid Wolford kid blew the doors off the SoFi, tho I've felt both McVay and Shanahan need more mobility from their QB

g.oso's avatar

they won't get that with Goff.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Definitely looks like a QB with a bit more turn of foot may operate it a little smoother.

g.oso's avatar

Drew Schlegel we hardly knew ye

Ruey Yen's avatar

More curious than anything else, but do we know if he actually got a graduate degree at Cal in this one year? Good for him to be able to take advantage of the extra year of eligibility to extend his education, which may or may not help him with his future (or is it current already) goal of being an alpaca farmer.

Fire Starkey's avatar

on another site it alluded to his degree being a 1 year deal

goldenone's avatar

So now he has a master's. Ph.D. in animal husbandry?

Cugel's avatar

Masters in something else I'd guess.

goldenone's avatar

Go Bears! Though I am getting a bit disappointed over mens' basketball. It looks like another lost season.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Yes...the squad is struggling with fundamental basketball issues