I don't think any of you were planning to come out to Wondrous today to get hodduk from Rob's friend Sammy, but as it turns out, Sammy had a family emergency and won't be there today, so Rob and I will also not be congregating there either. Stay warm and stay safe!
Does anyone want a single ticket in the Young Alumni section (Section QQ, Row 32) for the rest of the season? I am almost certainly not going to any of the games, so am happy to transfer my ticket to anyone who is interested. :)
Re signs, I randomly went to a Canada Day celebration in Seoul once with a Canadian friend and they separated the porta potties between men and women, or tried to at least. The sign above the section with the men’s toilets said “Man Piss”. After sudsing up a bit my friend and I went to try and steal it only to find that someone else beat us to the punch.
i remember being very surprised to learn the words were taken from the Bible. i was reading for Freshman western civ class and it was wholly unexpected ..
The lyrics are taken almost verbatim from the book of Ecclesiastes, as found in the King James Version (1611) of the Bible (Ecclesiastes 3:1-8) though the sequence of the words was rearranged for the song.
School lunches are free this year (thanks Obama!), and I have 2 of 3 kids eating them now. Need to get over the hump on the third - saves so much time, but she is pretty picky
I always had free lunch from elementary through HS because my family was low income and qualified. I always ate the free lunch but my younger brother was picky and my mom always packed his lunch.
Ah your elementary schools had a cafeteria? I went to a few different ones and none of them did, same re middle school. It is pretty cool if they do, a nice investment in human capital.
The one thing my picky eater loves is peanut butter, but that is like trying to sneak in a loaded weapon these days
Yep, my elementary and middle school both had cafeterias. When I first started elementary I had a lunch card that they would punch but by 5th grade they had transitioned to a keypad and I had a pin code I would enter.
I feel like we need a reorg at the federal level. Constitution needs to be amended and restated, like any contract would after 200 plus years. Govt just doesn’t function well at a systemic level. Call an article V convention in name of competing with China and just amend and restate the thing
The family that owns In-n-Out is pretty right wing tho - remember when a plane crashed with family members on it and the explosion was suspiciously large for a landing (theoretically less fuel) but it turned out there was a huge amount of ammunition on the plane?
looks like rolovich is planning to sue WSU. Good luck - he's claiming his catholic faith precludes him from taking teh vaccine - dude, the Pope said take the vaccine.
I have a friend who just took a job with the federal govt. She is a devout Catholic and won't get vaccinated. May be a short tenure when the deadline to get the shot comes (I think sometime next month).
The Dodgers looked deader than a doornail for far too large a chunk of Game 3 of the National League Championship Series, a punchless offense combined with a shockingly poor start on the mound seemed certain to send them to a 3-0 series deficit.
But then Cody Bellinger awakened the Dodger Stadium crowd and his offense with a three-run home run, part of a stunning, four-run eighth, pulling out a 6-5 win over the Braves, and suddenly looking very much alive.
3 takeaways from Game 3
The big inning, such a large staple of an offense that led the league in runs scored during the regular season, has eluded the Dodgers for most of this postseason. They had 105 innings scoring three or more runs in 162 games, accounting for 7.4 percent of their innings.
The entirety of SF Giants history before 2010. Even that year I still expected them to blow it all the way up until the final World Series out was recorded.
I've been a Giants fan from my first baseball game in 1964. 2002 was an exquisitely royal messing of a fan's mind. 2010 was like sweet release, although it will never make up for 2002.
2002 was absolutely the worst, but there was also:
-Every horrible walk-off playoff loss in Miami (1997 and 2003). This includes Jose Cruz Jr.'s baffling error that kicked off a Marlins rally.
-Having the best record and somehow losing a playoff series to the Mets (the Mets!).
-Steve Finley's grand slam in 2004
-Neifi Perez hits a home run for once in his life, Giants give up sole possession of the wild card in 1998, then we lose the tiebreaker to the Cubs (the Cubs!).
-103 wins, no playoffs in 1993.
-Earthquake
-Jose Oquendo and Candy Maldonado in 1987.
-For those who are old enough to remember it, the 1962 World Series. "Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?!"
I was wrong! Dodgers look gassed. Same thing happened to Cubs in 2015 - tense pennant race, WC game, and NLDS left them gassed by LCS and Mets swept them
I listened to the first inning in the car while driving to have dinner with a friend. Other than glancing at the TV to see the score during dinner, I didn't see a minute of the game.
Conference USA collapsing as we speak. Six schools (North Texas, Rice, UTSA, Charlotte, FAU, and UAB) all heading to reload the AAC and Marshall and Southern Miss. apparently leaving for the Sun Belt.
They could pick up Liberty and UConn, and probably UMass, and hang on until the WAC teams on a track to get to FBS in a few years can instead fill out the west end of a conference that would cover a similarly massive amount of miles as it does now.
"Cal continues to occupy the space between good enough to compete but not good enough to win. This week it was a seven-point loss to Oregon. I can't help but believe a win will come at some point, and perhaps it'll be at home this week against No. 25 Colorado in THE BOTTOM 25 GAME OF THE CENTURY OF THE WEEK! Yep, that's right! It's the only game between ranked teams that we have available this week. (23)"
Garbers is doing a pretty decent job of wasting things himself, tho...
He's a great Cal Bear, represents the university and the program well, and we should all respect what he did in his 11 seasons as starting QB. That said, he leaves a lot of plays on the field & I'm looking forward to seeing what a signal caller with more physical gifts can do.
It will be a major disservice to the program if Wilcox fails to get Millner some live action in the final month of the season, while preserving his redshirt season.
As far as the play calling being a detriment to CG...Well, sure some portion of it but as I see it, a significant amount is CG's execution. IMO, he's not, by far, making as much lemonade out the "lemon" play calling as he should.
Nah, he misses TD's with short throws, can throw deep, but misses leading receivers so they get 2 yards rather than 7 on what should be easy throws, he's OK, but no Jesus in cleats.
Also not sure re Longshore. Pre injury sure, but post? It’s sort of an unfair comparison too given the offensive talent around those other guys versus what Garbers is working with now
Riley had DeSean Jackson, Lavelle Hawkins, Robert Jordan catching passes in 2007. After that he had Marvin Jones and Jeremy Ross too, so having them helped a lot on deep balls. I love watching Riley highlights on YouTube.
True that...in his career, he's beaten Stanford, SC, Oregon, Washington and UCLA and won a bowl game...puts him in rare company for Cal QBs the past 50 years.
You are such a sour old blue it's curdling your brain; of the 6 games we've played, 5 were winnable. 50/50 is hardly out of question. Didn't happen, but you make it sound like destiny.
Sure, 5 were winnable. But unforced errors kept the team from winning. Poor coaching, poor leadership, and poor organization kept them from winning those 5 games. A good team wins those 5 winnable games. Notice that I didn't say a "great" team wins those 5 winnable games.
If we are good enough to have better record, but are actually 1-5, then isn't that even worse? If we are bad and 1-5, it is what it is, but if we are capable and 1-5, then it's completely unacceptable.
I don't think any of you were planning to come out to Wondrous today to get hodduk from Rob's friend Sammy, but as it turns out, Sammy had a family emergency and won't be there today, so Rob and I will also not be congregating there either. Stay warm and stay safe!
Does anyone want a single ticket in the Young Alumni section (Section QQ, Row 32) for the rest of the season? I am almost certainly not going to any of the games, so am happy to transfer my ticket to anyone who is interested. :)
I would be interested in the $C ticket.
Awesome! You can e-mail me at jesscheng86 at gmail.com; I think I just need an e-mail or phone number to transfer the ticket to you. :)
Tweet at @twistnhook on twitter. he likes to collect and re-distribute ticket
Thanks for the info! I will try that if I don't get any takers.
Day 5 without internet. Thank goodness for mobile phones otherwise we might have to read or (gasp) talk to each other.
pqtm, what happened?
Fiber optic cable got cut somewhere.
my neighbor did that to my fiber line when aerating their lawn. grrr.
Re signs, I randomly went to a Canada Day celebration in Seoul once with a Canadian friend and they separated the porta potties between men and women, or tried to at least. The sign above the section with the men’s toilets said “Man Piss”. After sudsing up a bit my friend and I went to try and steal it only to find that someone else beat us to the punch.
Turn Turn Turn
i remember being very surprised to learn the words were taken from the Bible. i was reading for Freshman western civ class and it was wholly unexpected ..
The lyrics are taken almost verbatim from the book of Ecclesiastes, as found in the King James Version (1611) of the Bible (Ecclesiastes 3:1-8) though the sequence of the words was rearranged for the song.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn!_Turn!_Turn!
one of those things I learned in church (for a while we had a very crunchy granola nun who did the music when I was young).
DBD Test Kitchen
School lunches are free this year (thanks Obama!), and I have 2 of 3 kids eating them now. Need to get over the hump on the third - saves so much time, but she is pretty picky
I always had free lunch from elementary through HS because my family was low income and qualified. I always ate the free lunch but my younger brother was picky and my mom always packed his lunch.
Ah your elementary schools had a cafeteria? I went to a few different ones and none of them did, same re middle school. It is pretty cool if they do, a nice investment in human capital.
The one thing my picky eater loves is peanut butter, but that is like trying to sneak in a loaded weapon these days
Yep, my elementary and middle school both had cafeterias. When I first started elementary I had a lunch card that they would punch but by 5th grade they had transitioned to a keypad and I had a pin code I would enter.
If you go to school in Davis, you can eat your school lunch in the rain.
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/california-school-district-tells-parents-their-children-must-eat-lunch-in-the-rain-due-to-covid
As I recall (though none of my kids went to Davis schools), they are outdoors for lunch regardless of covid, weather, or anything else.
Here's another fox coverage of that story, that's lighter on the rant: https://fox40.com/news/local-news/schools-juggle-cold-rainy-weather-with-covid-safety/
Thinking back to my own childhood, I don’t think I could get lunch at school until high school
I had school lunch 29 out of 30 days. Very very very occasionally I'd bring something from home.
I never attended a school that provided food in the k-12 years
You had to pay for it, but I never attended a school that didn't provide lunch.
DBD AV Club
Started Sex Education, pretty good.
we're halfway through season 3, its very entertaining
Our Crumbling Democracy
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/10/senator-joe-manchin-democratic-party-exit-plan-biden-infrastructure-deal-exclusive/
I feel like we need a reorg at the federal level. Constitution needs to be amended and restated, like any contract would after 200 plus years. Govt just doesn’t function well at a systemic level. Call an article V convention in name of competing with China and just amend and restate the thing
unfortunately I feel like we're gonna have to go through some very bad times before that happens
Can't let the GOP impose their will in any way in that convention, though.
Anti-democratic tendencies need to be routed.
Can't he do it the old fashion way of welcoming pork barrel? I can't stand obstructionists.
You mean Manchin? He could, but that assumes he's not a scared idiot.
Or a Republican in Democratic clothing.
FBI at Washington home of Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/19/politics/fbi-oleg-deripaska/index.html
Today in Covid 19
I did not expect Double-Doubles to go hand-in-hand with libertarian BS.
https://abc7.com/in-n-out-san-francisco-shut-down-covid-vaccine-mandate-defying-orders/11144956/
The family that owns In-n-Out is pretty right wing tho - remember when a plane crashed with family members on it and the explosion was suspiciously large for a landing (theoretically less fuel) but it turned out there was a huge amount of ammunition on the plane?
also, they used to have bible verses printed on the bottom of soda cups. I don't think they are still doing that.
They are, and they added it to the burger wrappers too.
Hasn't hurt their burger quality, or popularity, though.
I will continue to eat there.
looks like rolovich is planning to sue WSU. Good luck - he's claiming his catholic faith precludes him from taking teh vaccine - dude, the Pope said take the vaccine.
I have a friend who just took a job with the federal govt. She is a devout Catholic and won't get vaccinated. May be a short tenure when the deadline to get the shot comes (I think sometime next month).
How does she square being a devout Catholic and not listening or following the Pope who has endorsed the vaccine and received it himself?
I have no idea. I only see her once a year or so and heard about her situation from a mutual friend.
I’m Catholic, and I’m with you, YWC
It’s seems a lot of American Catholics believe:
Trump>>QAnon>>Pope
In regards to the vaccine and getting it.
Dude, he follows the Pope in Avignon, not that pretender in Rome!
I’m sure he also follows the president in Mar a Lago and not that pretender in DC.
@That's the joke...@
Yeah, that’s a tough defense to argue when the head of the Catholic Church has been vaccinated.
Oh good, then a court will issue a finding rejecting the argument. May help to counter message
Pro
NFL: We've read all 650,000 emails and John Gruden is the only bad person in the NFL. No, you can't see them.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/no-one-else-in-nfl-cited-with-email-violations-ap-source/2833229/
Heh...yeah I noticed that as well. Me thinks he's going to be the fall guy...
Cody Bellinger & the Dodgers aren’t dead just yet
https://www.truebluela.com/2021/10/19/22734043/dodgers-home-runs-cody-bellinger-comeback-nlcs-game-3-braves
The Dodgers looked deader than a doornail for far too large a chunk of Game 3 of the National League Championship Series, a punchless offense combined with a shockingly poor start on the mound seemed certain to send them to a 3-0 series deficit.
But then Cody Bellinger awakened the Dodger Stadium crowd and his offense with a three-run home run, part of a stunning, four-run eighth, pulling out a 6-5 win over the Braves, and suddenly looking very much alive.
3 takeaways from Game 3
The big inning, such a large staple of an offense that led the league in runs scored during the regular season, has eluded the Dodgers for most of this postseason. They had 105 innings scoring three or more runs in 162 games, accounting for 7.4 percent of their innings.
I posted recently why you keep Cody Bellinger around. This was a good reinforcement of that point.
I know the Bravos went up 2-0, but I just don’t see them winning this series
IMO they let their chance slip away in the 8th inning last night.
That sounds like someone who understands what it's like to be close...and then loses it.
7th inning, Game 6, 2002 WS.
The entirety of SF Giants history before 2010. Even that year I still expected them to blow it all the way up until the final World Series out was recorded.
I've been a Giants fan from my first baseball game in 1964. 2002 was an exquisitely royal messing of a fan's mind. 2010 was like sweet release, although it will never make up for 2002.
2002 was absolutely the worst, but there was also:
-Every horrible walk-off playoff loss in Miami (1997 and 2003). This includes Jose Cruz Jr.'s baffling error that kicked off a Marlins rally.
-Having the best record and somehow losing a playoff series to the Mets (the Mets!).
-Steve Finley's grand slam in 2004
-Neifi Perez hits a home run for once in his life, Giants give up sole possession of the wild card in 1998, then we lose the tiebreaker to the Cubs (the Cubs!).
-103 wins, no playoffs in 1993.
-Earthquake
-Jose Oquendo and Candy Maldonado in 1987.
-For those who are old enough to remember it, the 1962 World Series. "Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher?!"
https://twitter.com/BaseballThomasB/status/1057790006729658369
The Giants were an underrated "tortured" franchise until 2010. Bill Simmons recognized it, when he wrote this column earlier that year.
http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100129
Yeah agree. Dodgers likely tie it up today and then ride the momentum train to a 2017 WS reboot
Well. . .. not so hasty.
I was wrong! Dodgers look gassed. Same thing happened to Cubs in 2015 - tense pennant race, WC game, and NLDS left them gassed by LCS and Mets swept them
Thanks, Treebeard
I listened to the first inning in the car while driving to have dinner with a friend. Other than glancing at the TV to see the score during dinner, I didn't see a minute of the game.
GBBR
GBBR - I listened to the game on the way to work - 5 stops from the office is where Belli hit the home run
I think for tonight's game you should be heading into work as well. Which means you need to leave 3 hours later.
I have an early conference call to take (damn west coast meeting hours!) so I will be on the bus later (not 3 hours later, but later)
Warriors win season opener vs Lakers
i went to bed at halftime and missed the good stuff apparently. was good to have NBA back.
- AD looked unstoppable
- Westbrook out of sync
- Curry and Draymond were out of sync too, at the least the half i watched
- James scored but was somewhat passive as he tends to be
- you could tell the Lakers will take a while to gel since everyone is new
greatest shooter of all time had a triple double despite shooting 23% and putting up bricks from every direction
It was impressive to see the Warriors putting up points even when Curry wasn't. It's been a while.
Nemanja is a great fit for this team.
Yes! He was very good. He also looks like a hired assassin, so bonus points tgere
Yeah and really without anyone hitting threes at all
Other College
Conference USA collapsing as we speak. Six schools (North Texas, Rice, UTSA, Charlotte, FAU, and UAB) all heading to reload the AAC and Marshall and Southern Miss. apparently leaving for the Sun Belt.
They could pick up Liberty and UConn, and probably UMass, and hang on until the WAC teams on a track to get to FBS in a few years can instead fill out the west end of a conference that would cover a similarly massive amount of miles as it does now.
Well shit. Cal to lag another 130,000 feet in the unfair war against Oregon. COLONIZE STRAWBERRY CANYON!
https://twitter.com/sportico/status/1450620055927013379?s=21
5-star DE recruit flips from USC to Georgia
https://twitter.com/MykelW_50/status/1450839520514125836
Cal
GO BEARS!!!
"Cal continues to occupy the space between good enough to compete but not good enough to win. This week it was a seven-point loss to Oregon. I can't help but believe a win will come at some point, and perhaps it'll be at home this week against No. 25 Colorado in THE BOTTOM 25 GAME OF THE CENTURY OF THE WEEK! Yep, that's right! It's the only game between ranked teams that we have available this week. (23)"
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-rankings-kansas-reclaims-the-bottom-25-throne-as-jayhawks-return-to-familiar-position/
Did someone say elimination game?
I feel bad that we are just wasting Garbers. Ah well, he and Bobby Shaw and numerous others can form a club
"wasting Garbers" lulz. Sounds like a shitty alt band. Garbers is a just ok college QB, not sure how much he is being wasted
This is certainly a hot take.
Just keeping you guys warm! It’s basically hot stove time already for Cal football
Scorching!
Garbers is doing a pretty decent job of wasting things himself, tho...
He's a great Cal Bear, represents the university and the program well, and we should all respect what he did in his 11 seasons as starting QB. That said, he leaves a lot of plays on the field & I'm looking forward to seeing what a signal caller with more physical gifts can do.
It will be a major disservice to the program if Wilcox fails to get Millner some live action in the final month of the season, while preserving his redshirt season.
Maybe I have recency bias because he was good against Oregon, but I feel like what is shooting him in the foot is really the playcalling
As far as the play calling being a detriment to CG...Well, sure some portion of it but as I see it, a significant amount is CG's execution. IMO, he's not, by far, making as much lemonade out the "lemon" play calling as he should.
Nah, he misses TD's with short throws, can throw deep, but misses leading receivers so they get 2 yards rather than 7 on what should be easy throws, he's OK, but no Jesus in cleats.
He's a gamer, a lot like Riley, if you ask me.
Ok, fair points, but he is good enough for us to win more than we have, and better than the average Cal QB
Let's see since I've started watching Cal (results + talent)
Tier 0: ARod
Tier 1: Goff, Paws
Tier 2: Boller, Barr, Webb, Longshore (pre-injury)
Tier 3: Garbers, Barnes, Riley, Longshore (post-injury)
Tier 4: Vedder, Maynard, Bowers, Levy
Tier 5: Bridgford, Mansion, McIlwein Brasch, Modster
Throw Ayoob at tier 4 too
how many P5 schools would he start for?
I would rate him below Rodgers, Goff, Boller and Longshore.
About even with Riley and slightly above Maynard.
Fair and I agree
That is fair but you are leaving out a number of shitty QBs clearly worse
Also not sure re Longshore. Pre injury sure, but post? It’s sort of an unfair comparison too given the offensive talent around those other guys versus what Garbers is working with now
He is very similar to Riley but I feel like Riley had a much better deep ball.
Riley was very inconsistent but I think his best was better than Garbers' best (at least to date).
Riley had DeSean Jackson, Lavelle Hawkins, Robert Jordan catching passes in 2007. After that he had Marvin Jones and Jeremy Ross too, so having them helped a lot on deep balls. I love watching Riley highlights on YouTube.
And his 3-5 yard knuckleballs into the turf
I also have a soft spot for the guy after the scamper for the winning TD in 2019 big game
True that...in his career, he's beaten Stanford, SC, Oregon, Washington and UCLA and won a bowl game...puts him in rare company for Cal QBs the past 50 years.
You know things are bleak for the program when they score the 12:30 P12 Network slot....yuck...
Speaking of, the whole conference is kind of garbage. Is ASU best team?
Utah just made a case counter to that.
True! I still can’t believe Oregon beat Ohio State in Columbus. Nothing makes any sense this year
Too bad Gameday is going to the Oregon-UCLA game. A game between bottom 25 teams would seem to be the ultimate twist in irony.
hahaha - but they'll never do that, and we aren't *really* a bottom 25 team, despite our record.
I feel like this is legit a 3-3 team. We aren’t really a bottom 25 team, just like if we were 5-1 we wouldn’t be a real top 25 team.
It's not a legit 3-3 team. 3-3 would be overachieving given the critical errors this team has made; errors that have kept the team from victory.
Penalties, turnovers, failures to convert (points and first downs). And it isn't the same thing, but it's always something.
Those are the hallmarks of poor coaching, poor leadership, and poor organization.
You are such a sour old blue it's curdling your brain; of the 6 games we've played, 5 were winnable. 50/50 is hardly out of question. Didn't happen, but you make it sound like destiny.
It isn't destiny...until it is.
Sure, 5 were winnable. But unforced errors kept the team from winning. Poor coaching, poor leadership, and poor organization kept them from winning those 5 games. A good team wins those 5 winnable games. Notice that I didn't say a "great" team wins those 5 winnable games.
Wake up: this is NOT a good team.
If we are good enough to have better record, but are actually 1-5, then isn't that even worse? If we are bad and 1-5, it is what it is, but if we are capable and 1-5, then it's completely unacceptable.
YES! It is worse, more frustrating than 2013.
^^^^this!!
In 2013, we were in clear rebuild mode and coming off a 3-9 season, a young team, starting a freshman QB and then we had a ton of injuries.
This season had expectations of a 8-10 win season a bunch of returning seniors and players with experience and have largely avoided injuries thus far.
Even if we finish 4-8, I would argue that this season was a bigger disappointment than the 2013, 1-11 season.
^^this^^
You are what your record says you are
Yeah I know, but when we lost to Oregon, they dropped a spot. Should say something.
You mean Oregon dropped a spot? Probably because they narrowly beat Cal.