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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

sounds tasty .. but looks like a lot of work

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heyalumnigo's avatar

a little late to start all this right now isn't it?

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TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

I already have leftover cooked rice and cooked fish from yesterday, so I just have to fry the rice and make the bechamel. I hope! My lunch is already delayed because I'm listening to a seminar, but I think I should be able to eat soon...

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Ahh..yes makes it much easier

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SGBear's avatar

Lotus

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Berkelium97's avatar

My favorite car manufacturer. I'd love to have an Elise/Exige/Evora at some point. My concern about British electrical gremlins is offset by the fact that they use Toyota-based engines.

A guy who works down the road from my office daily drives (or did pre-covid) an orange Elise.

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DC Trojan's avatar

Also Colin Chapman had a quote about what should be a key consideration for car design (but plainly is not these days): Just add lightness.

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DC Trojan's avatar

My wife has a cousin whose long term girlfriend has an Elise. She doesn’t put a lot of miles on it, hasn’t had any trouble.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Loved the cars in the 80s, like the Esprit Turbo in the Bond movie. There was an orthodontist in Lafayette that drove one. Would love to have one of the new ones.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

i luckily inherited a '87 Jaguar xj6 for a while until i crashed it and set it on fire.

it was amazing to drive.

most cars have a sweet spot in the 30-40 mph range where it takes off if you need the extra power and speed.

the xj6 had a sweet spot around 70 mph. you hit the gas and it would be up at 90 mph seemingly instantaneously.

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DC Trojan's avatar

A buddy of mine bought an XJ with the 6.0 v12. The wiring promptly melted. It sat for a long time, and then a guy who had bid on some work called b/c he was short due to COVID and offered to swap in a rebuilt 5.3 v12 for the less than his original price to deal with the wiring on the 6.0. Still waiting to hear if the car is back on the road.

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Cugel's avatar

😃 As an M5 driver I can relate.

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AndyPanda's avatar

McLaren

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DC Trojan's avatar

I seem several around the area now and again, they don’t have the visual drama of Ferraris but they do *look* fast.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Ferraris have an element of art to go with the engineering that some others lack a bit in comparison.

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DC Trojan's avatar

20 years ago, maybe even 10, I would have wanted a car like that. Now I’d be more interested in some kind of restomod that I could use at real world speeds.

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clapdoc's avatar

Who is that?

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goldenone's avatar

error message

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Trump and Kim tweets, when taken together show why our society, country and values are terrible.

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SGBear's avatar

Rank 'em: cream-based soup, tomato-based soup, a drinking straw poked into your eye

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Cugel's avatar

It's usually a broth based soup, vs cream.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Also a good option!

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Cugel's avatar

I had a cream (well a little half & half) based soup last night: Roasted squash with bacon & sage, side of cheesy bread, pair with a disappointing half bottle of Willamette vyl Pinot Noir.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Cream based soup, more cream based soup, tomato based soup, still more cream based soup, discard the straw and drink directly from the vessel.

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Berkelium97's avatar

Can the straw deliver beer? Asking for a large, furry friend.

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DC Trojan's avatar

Drinking straw to the eye

Tomato based soup

Cream based soup (if the straw makes my eyes water, the aftermath of the cream soup makes everyone else’s eyes water)

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goldenone's avatar

1.Tomato based soup

2. Cream based soup

3. Drinking straw poked into eye

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SGBear's avatar

Elsewhere in college

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AndyPanda's avatar

Wisconsin at Nebraska this week has been cancelled. No gaps in B1G schedule to reschedule into, even if the situation improves in Wisconsin.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

And with halloween approaching, which means halloween parties on and off campus for students, followed by Thanksgiving with students going home, plus cold weather all means the Big Ten is in trouble.

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DC Trojan's avatar

My older daughter is coming home for thanksgiving and that’s that, she’s not to return to campus until the spring semester starts.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Vandy is the same way. Which makes me happy be cause now I don't have to spend 600+ to do a round trip of the Sat after thanksgiving and a Fri or Sat a week or two before Christmas. Basically they go back for like 1 week of class and then a week+ of finals. Always seemed like a waste to me. When we lived in Louisville is was fine because it was 2.5 hours drive.

I hope this keep this one more year.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Did you and the family decide that or did the university make that decision?

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DC Trojan's avatar

That was from the college. They’ve been very serious about managing contagion risk from the jump. They decided better to just finish the semester remotely than tempt fate with kids traveling back and forth.

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Berkelium97's avatar

@Nobody could have seen this coming@

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I think DC Trojan did. DC Trojan, what is the inside scoop on your daughters bestie at UW? Give us an update.

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DC Trojan's avatar

Bored shitless and still in the plague dorm, but feeling much better. She was very much out and about before this

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Hopefully she gets out in time to attend some sweet Wisconsin Halloween parties!

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DC Trojan's avatar

I mean she’s had the ‘rona now so why not?

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Wisconsin cancels their game against Nebraska. Wasn’t trump just telling people in Wisconsin we are rounding the curve? What happened! I suppose he meant we are rounding the curve before we go up a big hill, not down a hill.

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Rocksanddirt's avatar

we rounded the hair pin curve and slid off the cliff.

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SGBear's avatar

Were meals in the form of Amazon gift cards?

https://twitter.com/SportsPac12/status/1321201386084773889?s=19

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Ruey Yen's avatar

UCLA is really doing its part to keep the LA restaurant scene alive during the pandemic.

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Berkelium97's avatar

That's a lot of Diddy Riese and In n Out

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SGBear's avatar

Chip Belly ate it all.

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SGBear's avatar

OUR CRUMBLING DEMOCRACY

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goldenone's avatar

Trump Lifts Protections on Tongass National Forest, opening up the old growth forest to logging and road building.

https://www.livescience.com/alaska-tongass-national-forest-trump-lifts-protections.htm

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clapdoc's avatar

Anyone else in LA County? Trying to confirm that if my wife and I drop off our mail in ballots at a polling center Sunday (before election day obviously) that it will be counted on election day (not after election day).

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Scootie's avatar

In CA, absentee ballots can begin being processed the night before election day. If yours is in by then, it will be in the first batch counted. If you turn it in on election day, it gets counted days later.

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Cugel's avatar

I'm not, but yes that is the way it works, remember to sign the outside of the envelope.

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SGBear's avatar

My Head Election Judge just sent out an email to us other volunteers and notified us that 60% of our district has already voted as of Monday.

This is just 10 percentage points away from the all-time record. We are going to smash voting records, which is will be needed due to the active voter roll purging by the GOP state senate.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Which state are you in again?

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Well, hopefully they is good news for the democrats.

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DC Trojan's avatar

I thought I could hang tight until next week but I’m losing faith

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DC Trojan's avatar

Like I can’t even muster outrage any more. Trump suggests that the FBI and the Michigan police faked the threat against Governor Whitman? Well that’s about what you’d expect from that shitbag, take a deep breath and move on I guess

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GoldenSD81's avatar

He is becoming completely unhinged from reality in these final weeks. I know he has always been unhinged from reality but it is getting really bad and ridiculous at this point.

I am interested to see what a lame duck trump presidency looks like.

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clapdoc's avatar

Selling all of our intelligence to Russia, almost certainly.

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Cugel's avatar

Dark, man, dark

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atoms's avatar

But is it wrong?

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Cugel's avatar

I think so, but I can't be 100% sure.

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AndyPanda's avatar

If you think he's over the ledge edge now, wait until after the election. At that point, win or lose, he won't be standing for re-election, and will have nothing to lose.

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Berkelium97's avatar

Upper deckers in all the White House toilets

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DC Trojan's avatar

He does seem obsessed with his own poo

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g.oso's avatar

well he does have diarrhea of the mouth

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SGBear's avatar

PRO

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sycasey's avatar

Really a shame the World Series was canceled this year.

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clapdoc's avatar

First team to win four multi-game playoff series in the same year.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

And the first 3 game series could've been the toughest if you had to play a team with 2 lights out starters. If the Padres had Clevinger and Lamat healthy then that would've been a tough series. Sometimes you get lucky.

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sycasey's avatar

That was definitely a lucky break for them. I think the Padres with a healthy pitching staff are a real threat to the Dodgers.

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SGBear's avatar

110 days until pitchers and catchers report

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heyalumnigo's avatar

The Dodgers are World Series champions

https://www.truebluela.com/2020/10/27/21536853/dodgers-world-series-champions

The eighth time was the charm for the Dodgers, who finally reached their ultimate goal. They beat the Rays 3-1 in Game 6 on Thursday night, winning their first World Series in 32 years, simultaneously shedding the weight of coming up short so many times.

For years at Dodger Stadium, clips of Kirk Gibson’s home run and Orel Hershiser’s pitching brilliance have been played, a reminder of the glory of the past but also a grim reminder of how increasingly long it’s been. After Tuesday night, the weight of that burden is no more.

“We’ve heard it a lot. We’ve seen the highlights, and it’s fantastic,” manager Dave Roberts said on Monday. “But I think that we want to make our own mark on Dodgers history.”

They did just that on Tuesday night.

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atoms's avatar

How does this only have one like?!?

GBBR!!!!!

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heyalumnigo's avatar

It's me, you, clapdoc, GO when he's around. jlee isn't around as much. It's now just haters.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Superstition. I didn't wear any Dodgers gear on game day so since the playoffs started I only wore my hat once and my sweatshirt on Monday morning when the power was out and I had to go to a coffee shop to get some internet.

Going to wear my shirt today and load up on some championship stuff. No 1 is getting a Seager WS jersey and No 3 is probably getting a Betts. No 2 is getting a Switch and he doesn't wear jerseys anyways. No 1 and 3 may try to find a Will Smith tshirt jersey for him. So far I don't really like the generic stuff that they've put out there. Hopefulyl there will be more stuff soon.

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atoms's avatar

lol this is such transparently ridiculous trolling, Scootie. Surely you can come up with something better than this. There were more playoff games this year than any other season, so this WS title was actually the hardest to win of any in history.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

And don't forget no off days in the NLDS and NLCS. Pitching depth is a necessity to get out of the NLCS. 7 straight days means ideally you have 4 starters. Or do multiple bullpen games.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Different does not necessarily equate to wrong, OR lesser. Unique and changing circumstances are really the new norm (not just this year), and they were different for everyone. The ability to best adjust to the circumstances (in some manner) is usually what wins. There are some noteworthy footnotes to this, but no * is needed.

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Cugel's avatar

Nice try, but anyone who actually watched the playoffs will strongly disagree - they were well played.

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Scootie's avatar

Find me the missing 100 games.

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atoms's avatar

Cool, so if the regular season matters so much, I guess the 2014 Giants didn't win a real championship since they were just a wild card team and didn't win the division. Very interesting opinion!

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DC Trojan's avatar

I think we’re losing sight of the extent that Kershaw only needs one to blow things up.

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Cugel's avatar

Your argument will work well.... with the haters, but the haters only

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atoms's avatar

That is to say, it's not an argument.

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clapdoc's avatar

If their teams had won, you can bet they would say no asterisk.

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Cugel's avatar

But of course!

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clapdoc's avatar

Four rounds of multi-game series.

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Cugel's avatar

And coming back down 3-1: impressive.

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Cugel's avatar

So, about those Dodgers... I was rooting for them, mainly because they they got screwed by those cheating Asstricts, but as my son points out they're a big market team, with tons of $$$$ like the Yankees, so I'm going to revert to not caring about them any more.

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atoms's avatar

They are a big market team, but they've also developed most of their roster. Kershaw, Gonsolin, Buehler, Urias, May, Jansen, Gonzalez, Seager, Bellinger, Smith, Barnes, Pederson, Rios, all home grown. Turner, Muncy, and Taylor were picked up off the scrap heap as replacement-level players. Even Mookie Betts was picked up via trade. Now, did they sign him to a gigantic extension, sure. But man, the Dodgers are essentially "What if the A's ALSO had a shit ton of money", and it's fucking beautiful.

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sycasey's avatar

Maybe now that they've finally broken through people can start seeing the Dodgers as what they really are: the new Yankees.

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Ruey Yen's avatar

The Red Sox were a great story when they won in 2004 but then quickly turned into the new Yankees.

May the Dodgers be more like the Cubs who somehow managed to regress quickly after they broke their curse. Also, the Dodgers only winning one championship in a shortened regular season do make my parallel of them being like the 90s Braves even better.

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atoms's avatar

...but you *like* the Braves.

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clapdoc's avatar

shortened regular season but the longest postseason

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Now the Dodgers have won two championships in shortened seasons. They were the original asterisk playoff winner.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

And I do not see those two as asterisks BTW.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Yes they are a $$$$ team, but most of their players were drafted, or they identified underachievers and worked on getting them better. The only real highly paid free agents are Mookie, David Price, and Joe Kelly, and Pollack. And taking David Price's contract allowed them to only give up Verdugo and a couple of good minor leaguers (similar to the Nick Punto trade where they had to take on Carl Crawford's albatross contract to get Hanley and AGon). And even then, Mookie was only a 1 year rental until he decided to agree on an extension.

Most of the other money are extentions to players that have been with the team for quite a while; Kershaw, Turner ($16+M/year ), Kenley ($16+M/yr), Joc (around 8 I think), Bellinger ($10M ish arbitration), and dead money (Crawford maybe).

underachievers that got better include Muncy, Taylor, various pitchers like Treinan, McGee

Most other contributors came up through the farm system or via trade but they were not the major major piece. May, Gonsolin, Buehler, Will Smith, Urías, Gonzalez, Kenley, Seager, Rios, Barnes (trade from Marlins), Kiké (trade from Marlins), Lux, Caleb Ferguson, Joc, Bellinger, Beaty, etc. Hell the Dodgers tried to give Graterol to the Red Sox via a trade with the Twins and they didn't want him so they took him. It's almost like if the Dodgers want a player in a trade, perhaps the trading team should think about keeping them.

Yes they spend money but they didn't buy a team. They aren't the Yankees buying free agents. They're using their money to keep the players they want to keep.

They should give Seager the money he wants, then Bellinger and Buehler. Almost all the money is coming off the books after next year. Keep the 5 superstars and fill in with the farm system and other trades.

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atoms's avatar

I see you're ahead of me.

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sycasey's avatar

It's worth noting that in the early 2000s Yankees fans made the same arguments: that most of their team was homegrown. That's true, but having money also allows you to keep those guys as long as you want (in a way teams like the A's or the Rays can't) and also go out and get whatever extra pieces you need. It's still a big advantage over the small markets.

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atoms's avatar

The A's owner is worth two and a half billion dollars. He could spend some money on free agents if he fucking wanted to. Maybe after the new stadium opens they'll open their pocketbooks a little.

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goldenone's avatar

It's time for Fisher to sell, he'll probably get at least a 4x return on his investment. In the meantime, he's unwilling to fund the team adequately and cashes checks from MLB profit-sharing, which is going away. Hope Lacob makes a bid. Or Larry Ellison.

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Cugel's avatar

I think you miss the point that it's a business - I don't think he wants to lose money on the deal, whereas the Dodgers can spend $$$$ and STILL make bank; it ain't the same.

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atoms's avatar

...and yet there was a profound difference in the way Frank McCourt ran the Dodgers and the way the new ownership is running the team.

You know it often takes spending money to make money. The A's could grow their fanbase significantly if they invested in the team and the fan experience. They don't have to spend willy-nilly, but signing below-market extensions for budding stars should be a given.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I'm not sure how he can't lose money. How many teams actually go down in value?

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heyalumnigo's avatar

or do you mean lose money short term but not long term?

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Cugel's avatar

Cash on cash, not asset valuation.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Most owners can. If they wanted to. I bet many of them treat it as a novelty item that they own a pro tream. Not many want to put in the resources to develop their minor leaguers, to have good scouts to identify scrap heap players that actually can become good with good coaches, to do things like provide nutritious food to the minor leaguers so that they don't eat crappy fast food and get fat, like Joc.

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clapdoc's avatar

Absolutely a significant advantage, though I have to point out there are far more stringent salary restrictions now that were not in place in the early 2000's. The implementation of those taxes came about around the same time the Yankees' dynasty ended, and since then there have been no repeat champions.

It's also worth noting that the principal shareholder of the Rays has a net worth of $800 million. Yes, it is small compared to other teams, but a significant factor in the low budgets of small-market teams is their owners' unwillingness to put money into the team.

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sycasey's avatar

I'll note that this phenomenon seems to happen more often in small-market teams than in big ones. Maybe because the big market teams just tend to print money off of their own brand.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I think most of the Dodgers money comes from the stupid SportsNet LA tv contract and having 46K/night fans (or whatever it is). And I assume advertising. I do wonder how much personal money the owners put in for salaries and stuff like that.

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sycasey's avatar

Yes, local TV contracts are definitely big in the sports that have them (basically everything except football).

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clapdoc's avatar

I won't deny that it isn't a systemic problem that needs reform.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I remember seeing something way back when that owning a football team was more a status symbol than anything else. They didn't want to spend money to make the team better. Just status to own one, don't care as much about making the playoffs and winning the super bowl, and then hopefully make money when selling. Probably similar to other sports.

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Cugel's avatar

Absolutely ^^this^^

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

i was about to say the same.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Looks like Betts is the only one that has a contract past 2022 (not counting players under team control).

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AndyPanda's avatar

They did it with only 1 win by Walker Buehler, and 2 appearances by Clayton Kershaw without that resulting in a crash and burn event. Who saw that combination of circumstances coming?

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I think Dave Roberts finally took Kershaw out in game 5 when he should've. Previous years he would've let him stay in the game and give up a dinger. I think one big difference this year is the bullpen was much much stronger. Didn't overuse Treinan like he did Morrow.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Roberts' pitching management definitely has improved as its matured. Having a better bullpen certainly helps with that.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

And Turner tested positive during the game and was removed and quarantined. I think they said his test from the day before came back positive around the 2nd inning and then the league expedited his test from the same day to rule out a false positive. Around the 6th (I think) it was confirmed and the Dodgers were notified and he was removed from the game and put in a room. He did bust out and go back on the field for the celebration, rightly or wrongly. But he had been on close contact with just about everyone on the team.

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AndyPanda's avatar

The close contact had already happened, so there may not have been much incremental risk. I can understand how this was a difficult situation; its not a moment in time and life that can be gotten back.

I also suspect the number of high profile false positives (or brief positives?) that retesting can't confirm was a factor in their decision, whether that is ever acknowledged or not.

It will be interesting to hear what the results of retesting of Turner are, and whether winning the World Series turned into a super spreader event.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

The one thing they lab did do was test 2 days of samples, Mon and Tues. Apparently the Monday one was inconclusive and rather than rerun that test they were told to run the Tues test, which took a couple of hours. By then it was the 7th I think and he was removed when the lab notified the league and the league notified the Dodgers.

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clapdoc's avatar

I think its been reported that that the Dodgers and their families will be quarantining in Arlington until it is resolved.

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DC Trojan's avatar

They shouldn’t have let him go back on the field, if only to at least try and look like they were serious about disease management

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Saw this tweet in response to Ken Rosenthal's (broke the timeline on Turner's testing):

Turner tested positive and probably spread it to Kevin Cash who lost his sense of snell

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DC Trojan's avatar

“You know what I’m not a symptomatic for? Winning baby!”

https://twitter.com/brentterhune/status/1321500485753409536?s=21

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Cugel's avatar

hahaha

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heyalumnigo's avatar

The real MVP was Kevin Cash. I don't care what the analytics say, how can you take Snell out of the game right there. I mean he absolutely owned everyone, especially Betts, Seager, Turner, Muncy. And then why go with the guy they brought in? He may have been your best reliever during the regular season, but he had given up runs in 6 straight postseason games (became 7 on the 2nd batter). His managing became too analytic.

Which is funny because Dave Roberts has been accused of being too analytic at times. When he stuck with Urías to close out game 7 in the NLCS for 3 innings and then even last night, it seemed like he managed more with his gut.

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clapdoc's avatar

Counter-point: people praised Roberts for pulling Kershaw after 5.2 innings in Game 5.

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sycasey's avatar

Kershaw didn't look nearly as dominant as Snell in that game though.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

It certainly wasn't game 1 Kershaw. He did just enough to get through and keep them in the game given his control troubles. All you can ask.

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sycasey's avatar

Right, he was fine but not dominating, which is why there wasn't much second-guessing about taking him out.

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clapdoc's avatar

Other than the vociferous boos for Dave Roberts when he took him out.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

But even then, it was the "plan". Get through the lefties and then I think the next batter was Margot.

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Berkelium97's avatar

What an awful decision. They blew the game in the span of those first 7 pitches and lost it 3 pitches later.

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sycasey's avatar

I can see the logic of wanting to get Snell out of there as soon as possible on his third time through the order, but:

1. He didn't appear to be in trouble yet.

2. The guy they brought in had allowed inherited runners to score in like 6 straight appearances. He did it again.

It's good to have a plan and a "book" you go by in making decisions, but at some point doesn't recent performance have to overrule the book? Just a little bit?

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Agreed Sy...having a plan is all good, but you also have to factor in what is happening on the field. It's the eye test...Snell was dealing, and the pitch count was low...his pitch count was rarely as low when he was getting smacked around 3rd time through the lineup during the season...this is where the strictly-analytics approach loses me. Granted, this is what Tampa has been doing all year, but at the same time, Cash needn't even be in the stadium, then...he could manage via ZOOM from his living room.

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atoms's avatar

If I were Cash I would've let Snell face Betts, with the way Snell was throwing and how utterly lost Betts looked against him the first two times.

That said, Snell hasn't been going deep into games and has been getting smacked around the 3rd time through the order, so I get it. But I would've let him face Betts and only taken him out if any other batter that inning reached.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Hell, I would've let him face Seager as well. He looked lost chasing the sliders and the high FB. Same with Turner (weaker against the 97 FBs above the zone this year). Seager, Turner, and Muncy all are susceptible to the 96+ MPH 3 inches above the zone.

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atoms's avatar

I would've let him face Seager if and only if he got Betts. Essentially just taking it batter by batter once Barnes was aboard.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

yup I agree. But then again I've never taken a team to the World Series. Should've when No 3 was an 11 year old but they didn't have an 11 YO WS. They did for 10 and 12 but not 11. The year after we won 11 year old regionals they added the rule that the 11 year old winner got an invite to 12s if they chose to skip 12 year old all star tournaments.

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AndyPanda's avatar

I can see the need to avoid a 3rd time through the lineup; the stats on that are dramatic, But there were other (left handed) options to go with that would avoid a righty throwing fastballs to Mookie (not a good idea).

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AndyPanda's avatar

I watched more MLB baseball this year than I have in more than 20 years, mostly because I wasn't umpiring nearly as much, and the whole season boiled down to the Rays not capitalizing on scoring opportunities in the first 2 innings (poor hitting that hit even more poorly with runners in scoring position, a baseball tradition), and then a pitching change mistake.

I can't recall, much less count, all the times, at every level, I've watched a manager not base their decision on how the pitcher is actually doing, and pull someone who is dealing for someone who they have no idea if they can even throw strikes, much less get outs, only to quickly, but already too late, find out they can't do either, blowing up a game in the process. (Close second baseball pitching tradition, most frequently exemplified recently by the current Giants, is to not pull a pitcher who obviously should not be in the game any longer, letting them get obliterated.)

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Not capitalizing is similar to what the Braves didn't do in game 6 against Buehler. 3 straight singles, then 2 Ks and a groundout to SS.

Also in game 7 the bad running play on 2nd and 3rd no outs and the grounder to Turner. Rundown going home on the contact play, which isn't a bad play by Dansby provided Riley the rookie on 2nd runs to 3rd as soon as the runner on 3rd breaks for home during the rundown instead of being indecisive and also getting thrown out at 3rd for a momentum busting double play.

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AndyPanda's avatar

That was bad baserunning all around. Running into an unforced out in scoring position is inexcusable ~99% of the time. To run into 2 unforced outs in one play is something that almost never happens (and shouldn't!) even in Little League.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I think the initial out is fine provided the other runners get to 2nd and 3rd like you usually see. They're trying to make the fielder have to make a perfect throw. Although that hit by Markakis was a hard hit ball, unlike Seager's last night.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Infield positioning matters. The infield was not just in, it was way in. If the ball goes through, there will be plenty of time to advance. If it doesn't, you are running into an easy out.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Actually on the Markasis one, if I remember, Turner was middle depth off the bag so Dansby should've been able to take a big secondary lead. With the shift with Markakis hitting, Turner was off the bag but not as far off if there wasn't a runner on 3rd. With 2nd and 3rd and no outs and the Braves up by 1(?), the Dodgers were happy to give up the run and keep the runner on 2nd and get the out. I think he was at least 3-4 steps in the middle of the dirt and not on the grass. That could've also factored in whether or not Dansby ran. It was just such a hard hit ball right at Turner and he had more than enough time to throw home. And it was hit right at him.

Contrast that with the two Mookie plays at the plate.

In the first one, I think Diaz was on the edge of the grass but had to go a couple of steps to his right so he was moving when he threw. Muncy, I think, had a fairly hard hit ball. Also, the 3rd baseman was off the bag so Mookie was able to get a larger secondary lead and barely made it.

In the 2nd one, the 3rd baseman was right next to the bag so Mookie couldn't take as big an initial lead. Ji-Man was I think one or two steps on the dirt but Seager's hit was slower. Ji-Man came in a couple of steps to get the ball and was able to get his feet right on the throw. He definitely took longer to get the ball out than Diaz did.

But in each situation, Mookie had such a good secondary lead and is fast that he scored.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Mookie is capable of things most mortals are not. In part because his awareness is on a different level, just as his physical skill is. That has to be acknowledged.

Mookie also is on a more accomplished team offensively, so in most cases, if a decision backfires, there probably will be sufficient chances to make up for it The Blue Rays are not on that level, even though they are a d#@* good team too, and opportunities offensively will be fewer and further between. Tampa has to conserve outs, at least against the elite opponents (do anything you want vs Pittsburgh or Seattle and it will probably still look brilliant), as running themselves out of an inning can run themselves out of a game, and potentially a series.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

today i learned what GBBR meant ...

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AndyPanda's avatar

I always thought it was just a special Berzerkleyized form of growling. Is there more to it?

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Wiata78's avatar

Go Bears Boo Rishi. Why be mysterious about it?

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Go Blue Boo Rishi. Goes along with GPYAB Go Padres Yay AndBears (only when playing the Giants).

In fact, here is a DBD dictionary

https://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2014/9/16/6282461/dbd-9-17-2014-dbd-dictionary-again

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g.oso's avatar

wow, 1164 comments. Those were the days

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AndyPanda's avatar

Should add GBBR to that page!

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heyalumnigo's avatar

It is there, just not in abbreviation form. I guess the abbreviation came after.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

i tried looking in Urban Dictionary first. but eventually resorted to texting @heyalumnigo so as not to appear like a complete idiot.

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DC Trojan's avatar

That never stops me, fwiw

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SGBear's avatar

CAL

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goldenone's avatar

Go Bears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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TD_24's avatar

7 Days out from the Election and its looking like we have a 12 round prizefight on our hands, let me know who you guys have winning the election and why without bashing your predicted losing candidate (whoever that may be its not my job to pass judgment on your beliefs).

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sycasey's avatar

I think the chances of a Biden rout (winning the popular vote by 10+) are greater than Trump pulling off a win. That's not to say Trump couldn't win, but it just doesn't seem to be going that way. Polls are not tightening late like in 2016.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Overall, it doesn't matter one iota either way. What matters to both sides are the swing states, and making sure a state leaning their way that isn't prohibitively out of reach doesn't slip and flip.

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Ruey Yen's avatar

Yeah, it's more about Biden winning the swing states by a safe margin, which is plausible.

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sycasey's avatar

I mean, a popular vote win by 5 or more makes it very unlikely to lose the electoral college. So on that level the margin matters.

But I also think the margin matters in terms of what kind of "mandate" the the incoming President has, and also for coattails and what kind of Congressional majority you get.

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Cugel's avatar

The other important thing this time around (compared to 2016) is the gatekeepers are back. The Trump team pinned their hopes on the Hunter BS, but the mainstream press said, "nah, not falling for it this time, Lucy", and without the legitimacy bestowed upon this narrative, it stays isolated in the Fox News ecosphere, unable to infect nationally.

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Fire Starkey's avatar

I think its going to be a rout of historic proportions. Biden has a legit shot at 400+ electoral votes

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clapdoc's avatar

Also, what do you see in Texas? I get that you are in a bluer area, so it might not be representative, but you have a better perspective than the rest of us.

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Fire Starkey's avatar

I thought Texas was 1-2 election cycles away from turning blue. Because of the demographic shifts here, it is absolutely inevitable. Republicans have done a brilliant job at voter suppression over the last few decades and I think I saw that Texas has the most restrictive voter laws in the US? Anyways, I think the combination of Trump's assholery (rural Republicans like him but the suburban Republicans have always disliked him even though they reluctantly voted for him over Hillary whom they hate even more) and the incredible work done by Beto O'Rourke to get people registered and then follow up by text and phone to get them to the polls means that I honestly think Texas is going blue this time around. Polling in Texas is notoriously hard because Democrats here traditionally dont represent in those. So Dems typically are 3-4 points better than what polls show... and the most recent polls show it even or Biden up 3-4 points. With 8.15 million votes already cast (I think there were 8.9 million votes cast in 2016 total), turnout is going to be massive and that spells doom for Donald.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Be calm my blue beating heart.

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clapdoc's avatar

The last time the Dodgers and Lakers won, a vice president won election with 400+ electoral votes.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I am growing cautiously optimistic for this scenario.

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Cugel's avatar

^^this^^

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Thanks for the link to that Politico article yesterday! It was fantastic and a great read. It is funny that he mentioned Peter King because that’s exactly who I thought of while reading the article.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

round 1 .. biden seems to win

rounds 2-11 .. recounts and lawsuits

round 12 .. supreme court decides

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sycasey's avatar

This here is why the victory margin needs to be big. No one will accept the court overturning a massive rout.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

i agree it might be unsavory .. but so was the judicial process to get ACB confirmed. i don't think the winning party (on either side) will have any qualms about how they win given the polarized climate.

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sycasey's avatar

Overturning a massively clear election result would be several orders of magnitude bigger than the GOP's Supreme Court shenanigans of recent years.

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clapdoc's avatar

And yet would be completely unsurprising.

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sycasey's avatar

No, I think that would be very surprising.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I bet they already have the arguments written. And I bet they've already notified the right leaning justices of their intentions. It won't be a surprise when they file.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

my claim is that "GOP's Supreme Court shenanigans of recent years" was done precisely to "overturn a massively clear election result"

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sycasey's avatar

IMO that's a bit alarmist. But I guess we'll see.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I agree. I think it is very possible they overturn a close election, similar to Florida 2000 but I can’t see them overturning an overwhelming Biden win.

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Berkelium97's avatar

round 13: spectators burn down the arena

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goldenone's avatar

This is so depressing. It could come down to ACB's vote.

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