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space_lab's avatar

I enjoyed the doc “Untold: Malice at the Palace” on Netflix. Seemed pretty clear that neurodiversity was the spark that lit that, with predictable consequences.

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(… this was supposed to be threaded below in the discussion about Metta/Meta)

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Terence's avatar

Ron Artest was clearly not at fault. He went and laid down on the scorer's table to calm down!

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Scootie's avatar

Farewell, Buster.

"Buster Posey, a seven-time All-Star catcher and common denominator to three World Series championships, has decided to retire instead of extending his career with the Giants.

Posey, 34, had a club option for $22 million that the Giants needed to exercise by Sunday, but the news broke Wednesday afternoon, initially by The Athletic, that the decorated and respected player would step aside from the game despite coming off a successful season."

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Wiata78's avatar

Seems like it's hard for most pro athletes to go out on a high note.

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MoriBear's avatar

wow...quite a surprise!

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MoriBear's avatar

thinking about it more...maybe not. rebuilt his HoF rep last year, and was willing to sit out 2020. and I'm sure his knees aren't in great shape

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Wonder if they'll hand the keys to Joey Bart or try and sign a FA.

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TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

Free (new) food at Public Market today. Rob and I are going soon! https://twitter.com/Public_Market/status/1455957354172731396

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Alas, the Public Market tweet lied, and it was not free, but it was still a good day to go for a walk and get Indian food for lunch.

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Wiata78's avatar

Davis has the Pho King

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Terence's avatar

Every city has pho king.

The usual thing, though, is to avoid pho restaurants with clever puns, and instead go to ones with numbers in the name. (I will make an exception for pho cue though)

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g.oso's avatar

did JFK Jr ever show up in Dallas yesterday?

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Terence's avatar

Postponed to thanksgiving.

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goldenone's avatar

Butter rolls...

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SGBear's avatar

Who do you want to punch in the face?

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BearlyThere's avatar

Today? Aaron Rogers, that stupid unvaccinated f*ck. Get better, get vaccinated, and go back to being great. But get vaccinated.

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MoriBear's avatar

btw, how'd I end up with this orange-ringed avatar a couple of weeks ago. And how did you now steal it?? ;-)

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MoriBear's avatar

seriously? he's not vaxxed???

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Terence's avatar

he's "immunized"

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Tangtpt's avatar

Rachel Ray for the use of the word "yum-o".

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Cugel's avatar

That seems mean.

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g.oso's avatar

and much deserved for her culinary abominations

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Trump, Carlson, Hannity, all of Fox News.

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Newellbany's avatar

David Shaw

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Berkelium97's avatar

Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema

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Terence's avatar

Gimmie the insurrection group: Boebert, Gohmert, Greene, Jordan, et. al.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Co-signed.

Manchin and Sinema are equal opportunity vandals of democracy. They're following in the footsteps of many other members of Congress before them. They just happen to have outsized importance due to circumstance. And they're gutless wonders, besides.

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goldenone's avatar

Yep.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

irrational people

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i admit that is a very irrational response .. which is why i dont.

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Terence's avatar

Bread Rankings

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Greenlee's Blueberry Cinnamon...just delightful French Toast...even says so on the label.

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Scootie's avatar

All the Greenlee's selections are amazing.

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Cugel's avatar

Where's Monkey Bread? These rankings are FAKE without that option.

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I guess y'all have never heard of this awesomeness; my mom didn't make it in a bundt pan, but this recipe seems about right:

https://www.melskitchencafe.com/buttery-pull-apart-bundt-bread/

Geez, thinking about this, probably haven't had it for 30+ years or so.

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Monkey Bread is doused in cinnamon sugar that caramelizes into a syrup at the bottom of the pan though. Easiest thing on earth to make because it's just pieces of cut up biscuits from a tube. https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/food-cooking/recipes/a10982/monkey-bread/

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Cugel's avatar

Yeah, saw that, but that's not the way my mom made it - it was a dinner roll thing, not a breakfast thing.

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TheBuckeyeBear's avatar

You should conduct an experiment and report back.

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Cugel's avatar

I'll get my daughter on it right away.

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Cugel's avatar

Hey, for a man in my position, it's important that I delegate.

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Wiata78's avatar

That position being, sitting down.

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Scootie's avatar

1. Parker House

2. King's Hawaiian

3. Crusty French

4. WTF are butter rolls?

I'm not going to complain if you give me any of 1-3 with a plate of butter (needs to be unsalted for #3) to slather them with.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

French dinner rolls.

i am not a fan of the "sweet" or soft ones. they should be hard and crusty and go well w/ a giant pile of butter.

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TD_24's avatar

Bread Rolls are good. Can't really go wrong.

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Terence's avatar

I had to look up parker rolls, but now I know what the are (the soft buttery, kind of rectangle shaped bread invented in the Parker House Hotel Boston - I've definitely had them or something similar before)

1. King's Hawaiian

2. Parker Rolls

3. Butter Rolls

4. Crusty French Dinner rolls

I assume these are for straight eating.

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DBD Test Kitchen

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DBD AV Club

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Cugel's avatar

Watched the "Hi Bob" episode of For All Mankind, which was extra funny since I've been watching The Bob Newhart Show recently.

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MoriBear's avatar

you've got a lot of good watching to go! like 13 eps or so...I'm totes jelly!

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MoriBear's avatar

funny, yet disturbing.

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Cugel's avatar

Very, well acted.

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MoriBear's avatar

introducing mental health issues into the 1970s (alt-universe style). they run with it well over the next few eps...and even next season.

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The fall is not a great time of year for TV in my family, so we are re-discovering some old '80s sitcoms that I loved. We are watching Head of the Class (HBO Max) starring Howard Hessman ('86-'91) and we just started Benson (Crackle) with Robert Guillaume ('79-'86). I forgot how great those shows were, especially Benson, which was one of my all-time favorite shows.

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I like Hesseman (esp WKRP...another one to check out somewhere). and Mr. Guillaume was great in Sports Night.

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Oh is it the original Head of the Class? I saw something about it but didn't know if it was a reboot or the original.

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Tangtpt's avatar

Original series. Now that you mention it, I seem to recall hearing about a reboot a while back, but I'm not too sure.

I also loved Night Court, which will be my next target.

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Terence's avatar

Night Court is the only long running, syndicated comedy I've seen every episode of. (Seinfeld would be close but I am certain I've missed some stuff in the last season - I know I haven't seen Puerto Rican day parade for example)

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sycasey's avatar

Looks like a reboot is planned but hasn't aired yet. The original was kind of soft rebooted when Billy Connolly replaced Hesseman in the lead role.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I'm kinda looking forward to watching that, with Bernadette from Big Bang Theory as Judge Stone's daughter.

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Cugel's avatar

Yay! Didn't know it was back.

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Terence's avatar

Our Crumbling Democracy

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Newellbany's avatar

I, for one, have NEVER had tire eyes. Ever. Certainly not after international travel. And not while listening to bureaucrats drone one, either. Nope, not me. No-Nap-Newellbany, that's what they call me. Yep.

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Summit must be a barn burner because Boris was caught napping too.

https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/1455333192769081350

"When you’re sitting next to 95-year-old Sir David Attenborough and you *still* can’t be arsed to wear a mask.

Or even stay awake."

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dcblue's avatar

Never in class either.

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We had a new hire start yesterday. He kinda mini-dozed off a few times. Chatted with him today and it was "trying to kick coffee; and office A/C wasn't working, so super hot and stuffy." still not a good first impression (and he was not feeling proud)

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Stuffy conference rooms are the worst for me.

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Newellbany's avatar

Oh, for sure not. I especially never dozed off in the front row of UCSC's largest lecture hall and started dreaming about volleyball. And while blocking at the net in this dream that never happened, I definitely didn't start flailing my arms around, causing the professor to pause his lecture to address the idiot in the front row at the exact time he intended to make his fundamental point.

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SGBear's avatar

Don't buy a truck from Lauren Boebert, who is clearly pro-family

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1455295911140155400

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After the hubbub about parental leave and the explosion of school-borne COVID cases in August/September, it's incredible that the Democrats have yet again fumbled away an easy political win. It would be so easy to proclaim themselves as the party of family values: keeping kids safe, making it easier to take care of newborns, and all the stuff in the Build Back Better plan about universal pre-K, child tax credits, etc.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I agree with all this. The Dems need to campaign on them being the party of family values.

The maternity leave, I’m bummed about it not being in the bill but being in California, it doesn’t impact me. It would have been great if they could have come up with a compromise of 4 weeks.

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Scootie's avatar

Curious -- are there states that do not have any paid maternity leave?

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Berkelium97's avatar

MD doesn't, and we're one of the bluest states in the nation. I think only a handful have maternity leave.

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Scootie's avatar

In CA, it's covered by state short term disability.

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DC Trojan's avatar

It's quite something really

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goldenone's avatar

Trump’s ‘Heads I win, tails you lose’ play in Virginia

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/02/trump-virginia-governor-election-518500

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Terence's avatar

Virginia governorship swings big to GOP after a successful summer of pushing CRT as an actual election issue.

New Jersey governor race currently tied (3:43am EST)

Michelle Wu is Boston's first non-white, non-male ELECTED mayor

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Michelle Wu is Taiwanese American! A friend from Boston said she's also all these firsts: first woman and person of color to have that position. and first non italian or irish person since 1930, and first non-boston born since 1925

Cincinnati also got its first Asian American mayor

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dcblue's avatar

It will be interesting to see how the new VA governor goes. He embraced Trump to get the nomination then tried to distance himself. Time will tell how much of a Trumpist he really is.

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Yeah, he followed the right playbook to win in a blue-leaning swing state: campaign as a moderate in the general election and focus on local issues. Stayed away from Trump other than collecting his endorsement. We'll see if other Republicans can learn from this (probably not).

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Yep and other GOP politicians running for senate or the house won’t be able to follow this playbook during their primary, they will have to work hard to out trump the other GQP candidates.

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sycasey's avatar

Yes, Virginia has a primary system that allowed a more moderate candidate to get the nomination. Not all states have that.

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If you wondering why CRT is too perfect, it's because it an engineered political Trojan Horse.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-inquiry/how-a-conservative-activist-invented-the-conflict-over-critical-race-theory

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Terence's avatar

It's all ball bearings nowadays

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Virginia going with a GOP governor in a state where the republicans haven't won a large state election in like 14 years is concerning.

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Scootie's avatar

Not as much as people seem to think. The VA governor's race always goes to the party that doesn't hold the presidency. Not sure why people expected that to change this year. Even the amount of the swing is not abnormal for their historical voting pattern.

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sycasey's avatar

Yeah, VA governor's elections are weird. They term-limit everyone out of running for re-election (in consecutive terms) and they always hold them during an off-year (so not during a Presidental or Congressional election year).

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GoldenSD81's avatar

The VA Governor loss, I can mostly understand due to how it has historically flipped to the party that isn’t in the White House.

The real concerning race for me and which is causing alarm and red flags is the NJ governors race being so close.

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sycasey's avatar

NJ governors' race also usually goes against the Presidential result. Dems (probably) winning this one is actually against historical trends.

Again, these off-year elections are typically very tough for the President's party.

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FiatSlug's avatar

The off-off-year calendar gives the governor and members of the House of Delegates the option of running for a federal office (US Rep or US Senator) while still holding office. Or vice versa.

Theoretically at least, if you lose while holding office you haven't lost your office.

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sycasey's avatar

That's a good explanation for why, it's just that most states don't do it that way.

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dcblue's avatar

It is. Looks like the state House of Delegates may flip to slightly R also. I haven't read too much yet but Dems won urban and suburban but not as widely as they have recently. And Repubs won all the rural areas as they normally do. In one sense this may have been predictable as Virginia has voted for a governor from the opposite party from the President every time but once in the last 40 years.

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DC Trojan's avatar

turnout matters!

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GoldenSD81's avatar

It certainly does in urban areas but Dems have to do a better job in rural areas.

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Berkelium97's avatar

Yep, especially one year after Biden won it by 10 points

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Terence's avatar

Today in Covid 19

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Scootie's avatar

Aaron Rodgers lied in an interview this summer about being vaccinated, now has COVID and is in the unvaccinated protocol. Will miss Sunday's game vs. the Chiefs.

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Y'ALL, it gets better.

"QB Aaron Rogers received vibrating crystal and sage therapy to raise his antibody levels and asked the NFL to review his status. The NFL, NFLPA and joint docs ruled him as unvaccinated. Now, he has COVID-19."

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BearlyThere's avatar

Oh jfc

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sycasey's avatar

Link?

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GoldenSD81's avatar

If this is true, this man must have early onset CTE.

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g.oso's avatar

can we just admit he may be an idiot and blame him for his own bad choices?

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Oh, I’ve thought he was a selfish idiot for sometime now.

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MoriBear's avatar

According to his onscreen bio, it's that he only got as far as a Butte College education. Too bad he didn't go to Cal...

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O.Overall's avatar

They must not teach public health at Butte CC

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I really hope Love plays well enough to take his starting job.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

We'll see how he looks handing off to Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon 38 times

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goldenone's avatar

Almost Nick Rolovich-type stupid.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I’m done with this clown. I haven’t been a fan of his for the last 5 or so years and this just confirms that he is as selfish in his personal life as he is in his football life.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

He killed Aaron Jones fantasy value last year, throwing for nearly double-digit TDs on 1st and goal from within the 7...he definitely padded his stats.

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Rodgers, 37, had an alternate treatment prior to the start of training camp, sources told ESPN, and he then petitioned the NFL for that treatment to allow him to be considered the same as someone who received one of the approved vaccinations. After a lengthy back-and-forth, the league ruled that Rodgers would not get the same consideration and would be considered unvaccinated.

Sources said Rodgers follows masking protocols while interacting with players and coaches inside the team's headquarters at Lambeau Field. However, Rodgers does not wear a mask while in the media auditorium during his weekly and postgame news conferences. The Packers have put other unvaccinated players on Zoom instead of at in-person media sessions.

The reigning NFL MVP said this past August that he was "immunized" when asked about his vaccination status.

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BearlyThere's avatar

Thank god he didn’t get the jeopardy gig

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FiatSlug's avatar

I wonder if "immunized" is a way of referring to ivermectin.

Regardless, I have lost respect for Aaron Rodgers. "Immunized" without the benefit of a vaccination is nonsense.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

i wonder what this "alternate treatment" is that makes him "immunized" ??

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Cugel's avatar

Already got covid I assume.

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Cugel's avatar

What a clown, I hope he NEVER says Cal again.

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MoriBear's avatar

you beat me by 7 hours...I gotta make it so I have less work during the day!

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g.oso's avatar

Rename the Aaron Rodgers Cal football locker room to the Brock Mansion Party Yacht Locker Room

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FedExpress's avatar

just read that. I've lost so much respect for him

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FiatSlug's avatar

Were he a mere mortal, he might face disciplinary action at work.

He might still face disciplinary action from the NFL or the Packers. But it would require that the Packers are forced to forfeit a game, I think.

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goldenone's avatar

Really? Holy Cow.

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sycasey's avatar

WTF

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Newellbany's avatar

That's the Butte College part of him

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Berkelium97's avatar

pqtm

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WilderThanGene's avatar

ok, what does "pqtm" mean? i've been wondering for a while. google isnt very helpful on this.

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Scootie's avatar

Pringle quietly to myself.

Pringle, in honor of former Cal stud Lol Pringle.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

ah, thanks!

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MoriBear's avatar

I had to ask that about 6 months ago. I was pointed to the DBD Glossary...which I shoulda bookmarked. maybe a kind soul will drop the link here again.

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goldenone's avatar

I guess the vaccine for kids 5-11 will be made available at last...

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AndyPanda's avatar

Approved in Oregon, and enough to vaccinate ~50% of the kids in the 5-11 range available the next day. We shall see how long it takes to get some people to realize being healthy is better than not for kids. It has been more strongly supported by the 12-17 set than some of their own parents.

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Newellbany's avatar

Dr. Ms. Newellbany is wasting no time - got our kids an appointment TODAY.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Outstanding.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Good move,

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SGBear's avatar

Do you still sanitize surfaces more than pre-Covid?

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Terence's avatar

I never did it.

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sycasey's avatar

Hell no. The scientific evidence doesn't support doing this at all.

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FiatSlug's avatar

No. I had a brief flurry of sanitizing surfaces at work when it wasn't clear if transmission via surface contamination was a possibility. But since mid-April 2020, not so much.

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If I'm eating at my desk, like I am right now (tomato and chicken soup from the capitol's cafeteria), I'll use one of those Clorox wipes afterwards. More to clean up the crumbs (in this case, the oyster crackers) than for any sanitizing properties.

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Scootie's avatar

I have never sanitized surfaces, pre- or post/during-Covid.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Don't the kitchen counters and stove top get a little grimy after a while? Or do you have someone who takes care of this for you?

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Scootie's avatar

Well, I mean, they're clean, but I don't disinfect anything. Little vinegar/water/smidge of soap solution is all you need to keep surfaces non-grimy.

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DC Trojan's avatar

No. Easier to clean my hands before they reach my face, for one thing, even when it's not a question of dealing with an airborne disease.

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Cugel's avatar

Nope, I always thought that was goofy.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Not usually. But like dcblue said, if there is a wipe where the carts are I'll use it.

The one thing I did do on my flights the last couple of weeks is that United hands out little wipes and I used them on the arm rests and the tray. AA didn't hand them out on my one AA flight.

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dcblue's avatar

Just because it's convenient, I still usually grab a wipe and clean off the handle on the basket or cart I use at the grocery store. Otherwise, no.

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Berkelium97's avatar

Not really, especially after more and more research showed minimal effects of surfaces as disease vectors.

Until I got vaccinated, I used to sanitize my hands every time I got back in my car.

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i never really sanitized surfaces, just used hand sanitizer a bunch early on in coronavirus times. i still use hand sanitizer if it is publicly available, but not all the time at all

my takes is that it is airborne and that is mainly how people are getting it and the surfaces are very unlikely 2nd order effect ...

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AndyPanda's avatar

Still using hand sanitizer more than usual. There is a pump dispenser sitting in the door of the truck, so its quick and easy. But also agree, I think the vast amount of transmission is airborne, not picked up off surfaces. Of course, there are a lot of other potentially nasty things on surfaces that are well worth sanitizing into oblivion.

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Man offers fleeing Quaid and Melina a cab ride to escape Mars security forces because he's got 5 mouths to feed.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/philip-rivers-says-hell-listen-to-saints-if-they-call-him-about-playing-qb-for-the-rest-of-2021-per-report/

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Choppers beat the Cheaters.

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AndyPanda's avatar

I was happy for Atlanta. I'm a Freddie Freeman fan, and also Dansby Swanson. Swanson, in a place about as far from home as you can get from the Atlanta area, started in A ball as a Hillsboro Hop in Oregon. Those who saw him saw quickly he would be climbing the ladder. 2 HRs in the series, including last night, was fun to see. (And unlike many, I hold nothing against the Astros.)

Also, if the Giants couldn't get to the WS, best if its won by whomever beats the Dodgers.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

The Dodgers have lost to the WS champs for something like the last 5 WS. 2021 Braves. 2019 Nats. 2018 Red Sox. 2017 Cheaters. 2016 Cubs.

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*lost in the playoffs to the

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sycasey's avatar

I was mildly rooting for Dusty Baker to win, but meh. The games were not all that exciting either.

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AndyPanda's avatar

If your rooting for Atlanta, knowing the ace has been lost to a broken leg, and also knowing what kind of offensive explosions Houston is capable of, it was certainly nerve-wracking. After what happened to Tampa last year, and in the era of pulling pitchers who are doing well in favor of a reliever you have no idea of what they will bring (history not withstanding), it should be clear that no run or game margin is safe as long as there are still outs to get.

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Metta World Peace, the retired NBA player formerly known as Ron Artest, told MarketWatch he was ecstatic to hear that Facebook changed its name to Meta Platforms. What is World Peace even up to these days? It’s actually pretty cool—he started a company whose app allows basketball players in underserved communities to book time at high-quality indoor courts.

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he also did the news on Key & Peele

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TD_24's avatar

Henry Ruggs III kills someone via drunk driving. Evidence was bad enough to the point where the Raiders released him like that.

Prayers up to the family who shouldn't be having to go through because of a dumbass decision by Ruggs. As a Raiders fan, I didn't want Ruggs for football reasons (wanted Ceedee) and this unfortunately proves me right in the wrong way. Just as he was coming around too. Can't have shit as a Raiders fan. What can go wrong will go wrong.

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Henry Ruggs III drove 156 mph seconds before fatal car crash, prosecutors say

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32543330/henry-ruggs-iii-drove-156-mph-seconds-fatal-car-crash-prosecutors-say

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Former Raiders wide receiver Henry Ruggs III was driving 156 mph with a blood-alcohol content twice Nevada's legal limit before his car slammed into the rear of a vehicle that burned, killing a 23-year-old woman, according to prosecutors.

Ruggs had his initial court appearance Wednesday on felony charges of driving under the influence of alcohol resulting in death and reckless driving that could get him up to 26 years in state prison if he is convicted. The Raiders released Ruggs late Tuesday, just hours after the crash, his hospitalization and his booking into a Las Vegas jail.

Prosecutors said Ruggs was traveling 156 mph two seconds before the crash and was at 127 mph when the air bags deployed in his vehicle. Judge Joe M. Bonaventure responded that he couldn't recall speeds that high involved in a crash during his career on the bench.

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Scootie's avatar

JFC that man's going to jail jail.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Probably for a long time.

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Fire Starkey's avatar

up to 20 years apparently. Oy

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

There's likely no plea deal to be found here either. He's doing hard time....

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Justbear's avatar

That's terrible but how is he even okay.

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Scootie's avatar

LOL "Can't have shit as a Raiders fan."

Bro, your team is 5-2 and in 1st place in the AFC West. Simmer down.

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sycasey's avatar

They haven't won a playoff game since Rich Gannon was the QB, though.

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Terence's avatar

Honestly would have won that one year Carr was injured though. Ruggs aside, I'm pretty happy with where the Raiders are now - especially after dumping Gruden.

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Terence's avatar

Other College

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Cugel's avatar

Bobcats beat the Red Hawks in a very entertaining Maction game. Late in the game, with the Red Hawks down by 15, they score a TD and then go for 2. DUMB, Dumb, dumb. They don't get and now are down 9 points.

This seems simple to me.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Agreed. Go for 1, make it and you're still in striking distance at 8 down. But a 2-point conversion is necessary if you want to tie. Failure means that a FG is at least necessary to pull ahead by 1 or 2.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Don't go for 2 until absolutely necessary. I wish Wilcox knew this.

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sycasey's avatar

Yup. If I were a coach I wouldn't go for 2 until the 4th quarter (or maybe if I was down by a whole lot of points, at which point it probably doesn't matter).

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AndyPanda's avatar

I wish a lot of coaches could learn elementary probability and analytics. But high risk, low likelihood of success spectacular gambles are more exciting when they do work.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Or, restated just slightly differently - If you're within 2 scores you shouldn't go for 2 unless there's less than 5 minutes to go.

The other thing about strategy in terms of scores need to tie or take the lead I learned from John Madden. Just because you need a TD and a FG doesn't mean you should always go for broke by getting the TD first. An FG will do just fine if you need it. Then go for the TD next.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Yes I agree with the FG/TD point. I just mean don't go chasing points early. See TCU

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SGBear's avatar

Arizona QB Jamarye Joiner wildcat QB/WR out for Cal game with knee injury.

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Berkelium97's avatar

Wow, that's their third QB injury in the last month. Joiner tossed a long TD for Arizona's first score of the game last week.

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SGBear's avatar

Apropos: current starting QB Will Plummer is unrelated to Jake Plummer.

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Will Plummer started 2020 as fourth string. Two of the three QBs ahead of him (including the starter) and the fifth string entered the transfer portal last season. He starts the 2021 season as an "AND" co-starter, but doesn't start so he's second string. And then get gets bumped down to third-string when a transfer passes him. Last month, the starting QB got injured. Then the transfer gets injured. He doesn't do great, so they start sharing reps w/ the Jamarye Joiner - who is a WR and was a sub-60% passer in HS. Joiner gets hurt. So now we have a guy who was essentially the last choice is now the starter. And if Plummer gets hurt, there are 3 walk-on freshmen QBs.

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Newellbany's avatar

itfWill was related to Jake that'd be kinda like the Garbers boys playing for in-state rivals.

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goldenone's avatar

He may be a burned out retread, but:

Clay Helton hired at Georgia Southern: Ex-USC coach gets immediate chance to reinvigorate career

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/clay-helton-hired-at-georgia-southern-ex-usc-coach-gets-immediate-chance-to-reinvigorate-career/

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Good man, bad football coach.

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DC Trojan's avatar

I don't wish the man ill, he was in the wrong job at SC. If GA Southern thinks he's got something to offer, good luck to all involved.

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Cugel's avatar

They got fired for vastly different reasons, isn't really comparable.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

Really? I thought Kiffen got fired simply because the team grossly underperformed during his tenure and lost some high profile games.. which would more or less be the same as Helton, no? Sure you're not thinking Sark?

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Cugel's avatar

See DC's comment below.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

Funny you say that.. I got to that comment shortly after I posted. BUT, I wouldnt characterize those as so vastly apart to be incomparable. I think wins and losses were the fundamental reasons they got fired, as opposed to one of them getting fired as a direct result of a scandal, for example.

So, your comment made me curious if there was more to the Kiffen story I wasnt aware of..

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Cugel's avatar

eh... I'm sure it's some of both, but Kiffen's being an immature asshole factored in, I'm sure. My son has a theory (and I think he's right) that being a nice person gets you one more year than the assholes.

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Ha, I agree. In reality, bottom line is if you're winning you're winning, provided you don't cross a line, get caught breaking rules, or step on the wrong toes. I do agree that they are vastly different people in terms of personality and football IQ, and their post-USC paths are basically incomparable.. I was just genuinely curious about the literal getting fired part.

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g.oso's avatar

minus the being groomed by Nick Saban part. What could go wrong?

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DC Trojan's avatar

Well, as the resident Kremlinologist here: there's never been much question that Kiffin can coach, the question was his overall judgment and the stupid bullshit that came from the lack of it. He needed to not be the smart guy in the room & Saban was just about able to kick him around enough to make his point. Kiffin is always going to be a jackass but one who's better at the job.

Helton just can't coach, and he's not going to become a genius at either play calls or hiring playcallers. He's a really really nice guy. Parents are going to feel okay about turning their kids over to his pastoral care, and maybe he'll be okay in an environment where the competition is less... fierce. He's not coming back to the big time.

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Fire Starkey's avatar

Clay needs his Joey Freshwater moment. All will be forgiven if he does

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g.oso's avatar

FYI you don't have to keep typing out GoBears49. We know who you are Bob

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AndyPanda's avatar

Actually think this might be a good outcome for all concerned. Fit has a lot to do with coaching success, and Clay and his preferred offensive style both seem to be better suited to the Sun Belt than the red-carpet belt.

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TD_24's avatar

MBB season starting up...what do we think is the outlook for the Bears? Who will surprise and either take the next step or be the new kid on the block.

Side Note: Nov.12th, Stanfurd comes to Santa Clara for MBB and I will be on play by play for KSCU 103.3 FM. Starting off with a local rival, especially since I know the team well from all the Pac 12 hoops I watch. Can't wait to get going.

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As we discussed after the CSU LA, I'm on the Sam Alajiki hype train, big time, tho Fox could park Anyanwu & Alajiki on the bench bc they're true FR...fingers crossed that Jordan Shepherd can be somewhat efficient...I am in slight disagreement with Terence that Grant is actually a viable #1 option for any sort of competent basketball team, but we'll see...The O'Dowd kids are big time question marks...hopeful Kuany can figure things out a bit. Jared Hyder is not a P12 basketball player.

See if you can work a comment on Lars Thiemann into the Stanford/Santa Clara broadcast!

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heyalumnigo's avatar

We're going to have to come up with a Cal phrase or player that TD_24 has to work into each broadcast.

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MoriBear's avatar

The band is on the court!

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AndyPanda's avatar

Good luck with that game!

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[FB] Wilcox says 2nd string Offensive Guard/Center Brian Driscoll out for the season with an upper body injury. Everett Johnson (RS-So) is next man up for OG. Bastian Swinney (Fr) next man up at Center.

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goldenone's avatar

Go Bears...Bear Down on those 'Cats.

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No longer on football roster: Tarik Glenn Jr (Fr CB), Zane Cribb (Sr S), Parker Bosche (RS Jr, OLB), Alex Murray (RS-So, ILB), Jared Staub (RS-So, WR). Previously announced: Gentle Williams (RS-Sr OT, medical retirement), Curly Young Jr. (undisclosed). Added to roster: walk-on Jake Arguello (Fr, LS)

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Justbear's avatar

I've never heard of those players except two, and from football standpoint it doesn't matter at all, but I know they are all respected student athletes and I wish them well.

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goldenone's avatar

Is there any reason for these roster changes? Guys quitting because lack of playing time or is it something else like academics?

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DaneStopper's avatar

Imagine waking up at 5 am, getting shoved into the ground by a future NFL player on a daily basis, and having to go back into the stadium in the evening to repeat the process. Also while doing full-time school. And you're paying $30,000/year for that. Welcome to being a walk-on

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Fire Starkey's avatar

almost all of those are walk ons.

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SGBear's avatar

As FS said, they're walk-ons and not even preferred walk-ons (except, I think, Tarik Glenn Jr). They do all the work of scholarship guys. Preferred walk-ons are the guys who have a good chance of getting a scholarship. Plain walk-ons are tackling dummies and GPA fluff. They end up quitting all the time because its a lot of work for almost no return.

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TD_24's avatar

Since the USC game starts at 12:30, around what time does the tailgate start in the lot next to Valley Sciences? Need to start planning an Amtrak/BART ride from Santa Clara.

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Scootie's avatar

Wouldn't CalTrain/BART be easier? Take the baby bullet up to Millbrae and switch over to Richmond BART.

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Tangtpt's avatar

Assuming VTA light rail is in service (I believe it is, but just not sure), you may be even better off taking light rail to either Berryessa or Milpitas and transferring to BART from there.

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Terence's avatar

Follow Twist on Twitter - he'll start posting about it on Friday. My best guess is 10am, but g.oso might be around later to confirm.

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YES!!!! See you all there! We better F-ING take care of business at Tucson for the first time since the W administration...you absolutely know that game is gonna be a dogfight! Cats +12 is a good bet, unfortunately.

I just booked a flight up out of Santa Barbara, if for no other reason than to have a face-to-face conversation with Pa Newellbany to discuss in great detail all the ways his son has disappointed us over the years - see you then.

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g.oso's avatar

bulgogi tortas with homemade kimchi, 9:30-11:30 am. Cal drinking song and shotguns ~ 11:45. I might sneak in some carnitas too

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Terence's avatar

I might be late.

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Newellbany's avatar

PUMPED PUMPED PUMPED

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heyalumnigo's avatar

What is the Big Game menu?

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Terence's avatar

ivermectin and theranos chasers.

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Scootie's avatar

John Elway's tears.

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g.oso's avatar

No idea

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SGBear's avatar

Freshly killed Cardinal

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g.oso's avatar

that's post game

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