Maybe this is just me since we are about to play one of the most irrelevant games ever played in December but losing to a USC going through a full on implosion to finish 4-8 would propel this to the most underachieving and disappointing season since the 20 years I’ve been a fan.
And the ignominy of likely falling a game short of bowl eligibility bc you were the only team in over 800 games of CFB action to be drastically affected by a COVID breakout...
It was ugly -IIRC late 1800's...Carnegie his steel barons & some other wealthy captains of industry played a big role in some dam bursting that wiped out the downriver town of Johnstown...ugly stuff...
This isn't about academics, but I just learned that Oklahoma State is 4th in total NCAA team national championships, after U.C. Los Angles, Stanfurd, and U$C. That was a bit surprising to me.
Rumors are that Freeman will get the job. If true, I wonder how much of that is communicating to the CFP committee that losing Kelley isn't such a big deal and that there is coaching stability in South Bend. Apparently, the committee is willing to consider the loss of a head coach when deciding which 4 teams make the playoff.
I'm a little nervous about the "players rallying around each other" phenomenon for Notre Dame.
They could sneak into the playoff (it just takes a Georgia win over Bama and one loss between Michigan, Cinci, and Oklahoma State) and we might have a scenario like Michigan basketball winning the 1989 championship. Emotion really, really matters in college sports.
There’s about $18M reasons per school why UGA isn’t beating Alabama, and Iowa away from Kinnick is a different animal...even if they make the CFP, tough to see ND winning it, considering they’re really not very good.
Alabama has the talent to beat Georgia. But man, Georgia has just been playing mistake free football, really on another level above any other team this year. You’d have to pick them here, but as they say, that’s why they play the games…
Sure, all true. But until someone beats 'Bama, I'll take the 6.5, especially considering UGA hasn't faced a better than average team in 7 weeks....
A good general CFP rule to follow is the scenario that best favors the SEC is the one most likely to come to fruition. I see 'Bama winning this one outright.
Dang son, have you watched Bama this year? Sure they belong in the top 10, but they are not dominant AT ALL; needed a miracle to beat Auburn, barely beat Arkansas... I could go - they ain't that good.
and you are wrong. This game is going to fall squarely on Bryce Young's shoulders and based on what Auburn did to them last week, I see Georgia's defense doing the same but at a higher level. Bama doesn't have a difference maker at RB, and the WRs both seem to be a step down from Smith and Waddle last year.
Yes, I've watched Alabama, and have been rooting for them to lose every week...and I've watched Georgia as well - they're good.
I may very well be wrong, and will gladly admit it if I am, but just because g.oso and Cugel say I am doesn't mean a thing to me...UGA can beat Tennessee, Ga Southern & Ga Tech all they want but until Kirby Smart beats Saban I'll take the Tide and the points.
I recall how badly I wanted them to win, how loudly and forcefully I cheered and yelled in the stands in hopes of aiding that outcome, and how futile it all intimately was. Lessons in life from Cal fandom i suppose
Not the worst but Mariucci getting the Niners job. I still believe that had he stayed he probably wins the Pac 10. Especially since the Pac 10 was so bad from 97-01.
I also feel like he had the personality to be a very good CFB coach and recruiter.
03-04 was my first year at Cal. That winter I visited a friend in NYC and went to the ESPN Zone alone to watch the Holiday Bowl while the friend II was visiting in NYC was working at a different bar that evening. I happened to meet some strangers who turned out to be Cal Alumni and we watched the game together. The next evening, my friend was again working bartending so I decided to jump on the train to head to Little Italy. Lo and behold, the same alumni I met the evening before were on the same train and also headed there. Such a strange and serendipitous experience! Of course, we ended up going to LIttle Italy and having dinner together that evening and I haven't seen them since.
My hatred for Urban Meyer & Alex Smith began in 2004 w/ that undefeated Utah season, and the hurricane absolutely daggered us...Bears house that team in Sept.
Despite Utah going undefeated, despite ASU losing, what really cost us was that hurricane. If we play Southern Miss in September we win. Close or blowout, it probably doesn’t matter. The Big Game win was dominate enough that I believe had that been our last game of the season we would have made the Rose Bowl.
Really if any one of those things goes differently we're in. That's what makes it so frustrating.
(Okay, I'm not sure if Mack Brown's groveling really had all that much impact in and of itself. It was just a rage-inducing thing for Cal fans to see.)
Mack's groveling doesn't get the traction without the re-scheduling of the Cal/USM game...put Cal in such a tough spot...going on the road across the country to face a solid, bowl bound Southern Miss team in Hattiesburg in a nationally televised game.
I'm getting all mad at it again.....going for a walk.
I think we also had a late touchdown called back on a bogus holding call. If that's added to the final score it might be worth a few more points in the polls.
Specifically Sunshine...hated that movie, tho admittedly I should give it another go...maybe I wasn't in the proper frame of mind, a very realistic possibility....
The capability of using even average (forget about good) judgement and reason of an alarmingly large number of people put in management and oversight positions in a wide variety of public and private entities.
Well, that’s a different argument. And it’s hindsight. They made the deal in Feb to move up, so they likely had intel then.
After running it back again with so many 1-year deals, the 49ers thought (mistakenly??) they had a Super Bowl caliber roster. They were never going to trade Jimmy Garoppolo before this season and hand it over to a rookie, whether that rook is Trey Lance at 3 or Mac Jones at 12.
Well, sure, of course...I was referring to the drawing of any conclusions based on 11 games of action on Mac Jones, and the lack thereof for Trey Lance. Mostly, tho, the implication that the Niners regret not drafting Mikey McCorkle Jones, bc he's not giving you anything that Jimmy G isn't, and we know that that's not enough to get you a ring.
Agree with you on Wilson, he will be the biggest bust....already is, tho Lawrence does look lost in JAX right now.
Lance is going to be a stud...he’s a high character kid with immense physical tools that works way too hard, and is way too smart, to be a bust. The Niners said they were going to sit him for the year, so dunno why everyone is so up in arms bc that’s exactly what they’re doing.
If Lance stayed at NDSU, he possibly wins another NC w/ that Bison team with all eyes on him and is the #1 pick in APR for DET...instead, he’s on the Niners w/ Kyle Shanahan & a fantastic running game.
He'll also end up with additional liver damage because if he takes aspirin while drunk or nursing a hangover. Better to take ibuprofen and avoid the salicylates.
I was just talking to my older daughter - the college arranged with Rite Aid to come to campus and give booster shots yesterday, they got 1000 students sorted out, which 1) is quite a lot for the 7 hours or so they were open, and 2) is half the student body. I think as much as anything it's a reflection of how much the kids do not want any repeats of last year.
What an interesting Zaidi special. An older (34) guy who is frequently injured and doesn't have overpowering stuff. But he doesn't walk many, strikes out a fair share of batters, and is a ground ball pitcher. But he's available for $10m/year after the Orioles and age destroyed his contract value. Perhaps the Giants defense will make him look like a star.
A baseball lockout on Dec. 1 has effectively no real impact. If it isn't resolved by March, then we have a whole other situation. But that so many people with so much money can't get this right is not encouraging by any stretch, but it does help shed light on why so many other unfathomable mistakes are made in baseball.
That can be pushed back a month with no real adverse affects. ~10-15% of the pitchers in MLB can pitch consistently, and they have been working out all along anyway. A couple of intra-squad games and they will be ready. The rest, as has been demonstrated repeatedly over the last several years, are wildly inconsistent at best, and not able to go multiple innings appearance after appearance at any time. A handful of outings in spring training obviously isn't going to fix it, or it would have before now.
That is a good point. Health issues not getting proper treatment is a 24/7/365.25 problem that only get worse with more time. There should be an exception for that in any agreement addressing time following the expiration of an agreement as long as a new agreement is the intent.
That's a good point. Also club trainers are not allowed to see the players so those that are recovering from injury are not allowed to use the facilities. Like those recovering from TJ surgery and stuff like that. Which is kinda crap. You would think it would be in the best interest to allow those rehabbing to continue to see club trainers if they're still under contract.
Agree. Throwing out caps and floors is kind of ridiculous while profits rise. Only way you get to a cap is if revenue picture changes dramatically, which it hasn’t at least not yet. Demanding stuff like this is just a waste of time. Eventually some deal will be done that trades enhanced luxury tax for penalties on tanking teams (eg, cut revenue sharing of teams that don’t spend), but otherwise keeps system relatively the same. Unfortunately labor lawyers and negotiators are all about brinksmanship. If you aren’t nuking the place you aren’t trying. Whatever
I saw an MLB channel interview with Marcus Semien at his Texas introduction. He can't wear number ten anymore so he switching to two, which is the number he said his dad wore while playing football at Cal.
If Lincoln Riley were coaching the game, sure but I doubt that many travel for this game. Maybe they will do they can rub it in our faces that they got Lincoln Riley?
There aren't many games Cal 'should' win. But this is one of those games. Favored by 3, us coming off a decent win while they've lost 5 in a row. Let's hope the trends don't reverse.
I think there is virtually zero chance of him being drafted or even making a team as an UDFA. I think the deciding factor is whether Wilcox & staff will offer him a post-graduate opportunity or start rebuilding under Kai Milner. However, not playing Milner in the Arizona game makes me think that he'll be back. Then again, Musgrave has done a thing or two that have left me scratching my head.
Agreed - will be shocked if Garbers ever sniffs an NFL roster...I think Chase will check out his options but at the end of the day, will be back to break all of Cal's QB records. Wilcox/Garbers is like Shanahan with Jimmy G - he's the only QB he can win with, which is telling for all the wrong reasons.
The next Tedford is not Tedford. It’s some guy in his 30s/40s with an innovative offense and eagerness to make a name for himself. You know, like Tedford
Right or wrong, I think Cal's O showed enough life with Musgrave for him to likely get another deal, tho I have serious reservations about the complexity of his scheme, especially after watching Glover yuck it up for 4Q's in Tucson.
An argument could be made that Musgrave should lose his job for THAT embarrassment alone. And the fact that Milner did not see a single snap despite Glover's ineptitude is a really bad sign for a possible Garbers-less Cal team in '22. If he's not ready to play in that mess, than how the hell is he going to be counted on to be ready anytime soon.
To me easily the most disappointing thing this year was the debacle in AZ. I know a bunch of guys were missing not just Chase, but wow that was awful. This is football, people get hurt all the time and have to be replaced by the back up. How can the backup at the single most important position be so thoroughly unprepared and incapable. It was absolutely mind boggling.
The UCLA game was also a serious stain on his resume. Azzinaro is known for blitz-heavy defenses and Cal had no answer throughout the game. It's incredibly frustrating to watch the offense stagnate for most of the game, just like it did against Nevada, WSU, and Arizona.
Musgrave seems like the offensive version of Clancy Pendergast. He's either going to put together a great gameplan or an atrocious one, and the team will be stuck with it and unable to adjust over the course of the game.
It takes years for a program to build momentum and improve it's standing in the CFB landscape. Oregon or Utah weren't built overnight - they were both nothing programs not that long ago. But each year of success was built on the one before and eventually they got to where Cal aspires to be.
If Cal ends this year at 5-7, I want at least 6 wins and a bowl next year, then build on that. With Garbers, I think that happens. Without him, it probably doesn't. I'm not going to worry about 2023 right now - if we keep momentum through 2022, then 2023 will take care of itself.
I agree and here is another wild card, I could see Christopher Brooks transferring to sdsu. He is from San Diego and he would more than likely be the starter in a run heavy offense.
I'm having a hard time getting excited about this one. The regular season is technically over, a bowl game is out of reach, and the Bears always seem to struggle against USC no matter how awful the Trojans are. I'll record it and watch it on Sunday morning but...meh.
It's still gameday. There aren't very many of those, regardless of the circumstances. I'm betting some of the players are looking forward to a chance to play. Undoubtedly, some of the band kids too. Probably some family members glad to see someone's first or last major minutes. It's kind of like 3rd tier bowl games. These same matchups would be big deals if the same teams played in the first month of the season, vs the last one.
If I were playing on the field or in the band, I'd be pumped for another game. And I'd be excited if I were attending (or more specifically, attending the tailgate). But 2500 miles away at the tail of a disappointing season...meh.
That said, I'm already looking forward to the 2022 season and hopefully attending the ND game (barring some Covid-22 breakout that decimates the planet).
I actually will enjoy the next 9 months without a Cal football game more than I will enjoy Saturday....mostly bc I will not be there to enjoy the gameday festivities....
We've lost to 3 teams that fired their coaches mid-season and another who was otherwise winless this season--Cal has no problem losing to teams coming apart at the seams.
Alec Baldwin interview tonight with Stephy....should be interesting.
Maybe this is just me since we are about to play one of the most irrelevant games ever played in December but losing to a USC going through a full on implosion to finish 4-8 would propel this to the most underachieving and disappointing season since the 20 years I’ve been a fan.
Yes, this.
And the ignominy of likely falling a game short of bowl eligibility bc you were the only team in over 800 games of CFB action to be drastically affected by a COVID breakout...
Happy birthday to HeyStudentsBears!
the bday agenda
- medium bike ride
- dinner at home + some drinking
- dinner in NYC on Sunday night
What are you drinking?
thx
A city/town that is reputationally damaged by something bad that happened there (eg, Bhopal, Chernobyl, Fukushima).
Johnstown
Is that near Jonestown?
PA is where the flood was...not in Guyana
I don't think I've even heard of the flood. But Love Canal.
It was ugly -IIRC late 1800's...Carnegie his steel barons & some other wealthy captains of industry played a big role in some dam bursting that wiped out the downriver town of Johnstown...ugly stuff...
an old-timey disaster. Like Centralia
Isla Vista
College Station
3 Mile Island, Verdun, Ruby Ridge, Kent St. University.
Dresden
Brownsville, TX
Going way back I see
Oklahoma City
Kevin Durant isn't that bad.
Palo Alto
Dallas
Waco
Driving around ATX, I couldn't not think of the massacre whether I saw signs fit for Waco.
Ties into my Branch answer :-)
Koresh's other headquarters were La Verne, CA. (in fact, right on White Ave, across from Jason Y's house).
La Verne, CA being famous for being my hometown and where g.oso went to the nicer Catholic high school in town.
Belushi
If you're wondering what Jim's up to these days...
https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a38325911/jim-belushi-weed/
to be honest, I was not
Warning [NSFW]
https://twitter.com/w8lid/status/1466208438296453122
that was awesome!
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I can't look.
When the cost of an OSHA violation is less than the cost of refilling the pool...
Quiz
Which G5 school has the lowest ranking in the US News 2021 College ranking?
Liberty
This is correct. US News & Report lumps in the bottom tier all together (92 schools).
Liberty might not have good academics, but don't worry - they're rapey, too!
Which P5 school has the lowest ranking in the US News 2021 College ranking?
I also wonder which P5 conference has the highest lowest member. Maybe either Pac-12 or Big 1X?
Wazzu? WVU?
Winner! West Virginia
To be clear, WVU is the lowest P5 school, not the best-worst school in a conference, right?
well there goes my guess for the original question of Oklahoma state.
This isn't about academics, but I just learned that Oklahoma State is 4th in total NCAA team national championships, after U.C. Los Angles, Stanfurd, and U$C. That was a bit surprising to me.
really? What sports are they winning?
34 wrestling championships, 11 golf. Couple others.
There's actually a pretty big Cal/Oklahoma State connection.....who can bring it?
A Berkeley U administrator I recall actually once referred to Fresno St as being in far western Oklahoma. (Out in the panhandle.)
oh wresting. Yeah forgot about those.
♪...Blue Ridge Mountains...♪
Is this even possible to answer since they don't rank the bottom 100, they just group them all together?
There is only 1 P5 school in that bottom tier.
Boise State?
They're down there, but I guess not P5
Louisville?
or Texas Tech?
I'm going to guess it isn't one of the original Pac-12/Big-10/ACC schools since they were supposed to be strong academically.
Florida State? or Mississippi St?
UConn?
wait academics, not football. never mind
I'm gonna show my biases here and guess Mississippi State.
that would have been my second guess
Kansas State
Other college
ASU's Jayden Daniels announces he's coming back next season
https://twitter.com/JayD__5/status/1466461504354406401
Glad we don't have ASU on the docket...
There's "ice cold" shooting. And then there is ASU's game against WSU.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401370904
First one to 30 wins when they come to Haas.
Move it to RSF and play to 21, winner keeps the court.
It works for the football team. First to score 21 is something like 45-1 under Wilcox.
Yeech!
18-10 at the half. Sheesh. Maybe we'll finish 9th or 10th in the conference this year.
21% FG, 11.5% 3s, and 25% free throws? Did they fit some small-diameter rims on the court? (WSU's 30% FG and 57% FTs point to yes)
Utah goes with black tops/pants for Championship game.
Oregon chooses cookie dough top and black pants
https://twitter.com/UtesEquipment/status/1466107414718021636?s=20
https://twitter.com/GoDucks/status/1466217072598212610
Oregon's looks more akin to cookies n' cream or maybe "just rode my bike over fresh asphalt"
They look like they're covered in those rubber pellets embedded in the turf
Exactly, what a look to be going for.
Notre Dame: If Marcus Freeman gets elevated to HC, eight of 10 position coaches have publicly noted that they will stay at ND.
Rumors are that Freeman will get the job. If true, I wonder how much of that is communicating to the CFP committee that losing Kelley isn't such a big deal and that there is coaching stability in South Bend. Apparently, the committee is willing to consider the loss of a head coach when deciding which 4 teams make the playoff.
As it turns out, LSU hired a total asshole that nobody likes. This may well work out for Notre Dame more than Louisiana State.
He did get someone killed so just being an asshole is a compliment at this point.
my favorite comment when his hiring was announced was "LSU video coordinator just entered the transfer portal"
pqtm
I'm a little nervous about the "players rallying around each other" phenomenon for Notre Dame.
They could sneak into the playoff (it just takes a Georgia win over Bama and one loss between Michigan, Cinci, and Oklahoma State) and we might have a scenario like Michigan basketball winning the 1989 championship. Emotion really, really matters in college sports.
There’s about $18M reasons per school why UGA isn’t beating Alabama, and Iowa away from Kinnick is a different animal...even if they make the CFP, tough to see ND winning it, considering they’re really not very good.
Oh Rly? I'm sure UGA will beat Bama, $18M be damned.
Well if you’re sure, then I stand corrected Cugel! ;-)
Alabama has the talent to beat Georgia. But man, Georgia has just been playing mistake free football, really on another level above any other team this year. You’d have to pick them here, but as they say, that’s why they play the games…
Rick Neuheisel on the radio calls the Georgia defense the "dance team of destruction."
Sure, all true. But until someone beats 'Bama, I'll take the 6.5, especially considering UGA hasn't faced a better than average team in 7 weeks....
A good general CFP rule to follow is the scenario that best favors the SEC is the one most likely to come to fruition. I see 'Bama winning this one outright.
Dang son, have you watched Bama this year? Sure they belong in the top 10, but they are not dominant AT ALL; needed a miracle to beat Auburn, barely beat Arkansas... I could go - they ain't that good.
and you are wrong. This game is going to fall squarely on Bryce Young's shoulders and based on what Auburn did to them last week, I see Georgia's defense doing the same but at a higher level. Bama doesn't have a difference maker at RB, and the WRs both seem to be a step down from Smith and Waddle last year.
Yes, I've watched Alabama, and have been rooting for them to lose every week...and I've watched Georgia as well - they're good.
I may very well be wrong, and will gladly admit it if I am, but just because g.oso and Cugel say I am doesn't mean a thing to me...UGA can beat Tennessee, Ga Southern & Ga Tech all they want but until Kirby Smart beats Saban I'll take the Tide and the points.
If I'd bet, I'd take the over.
Exhibit A
https://twitter.com/WoodsFootball/status/1465723573092466689
Worst Thing to Happen To Cal Sports
Hiring Holmoe. I will never get my undergraduate years back ….
I am so sorry for you and all the undergrads from this time...the Holmoe years were dark times...
I recall how badly I wanted them to win, how loudly and forcefully I cheered and yelled in the stands in hopes of aiding that outcome, and how futile it all intimately was. Lessons in life from Cal fandom i suppose
Not the worst but Mariucci getting the Niners job. I still believe that had he stayed he probably wins the Pac 10. Especially since the Pac 10 was so bad from 97-01.
I also feel like he had the personality to be a very good CFB coach and recruiter.
They also could have hired him after letting Snyder go and took Gilbertson instead.
Good point
I recognize Sam Sagapolu as one of the cheeseheads. I wonder if all of the cheeseheads were for Cal OL.
* former Cal OL.
You see…another terrible commercial.
I'd actually take the Mariucci commercial over the "You See" one any day...
At least it shows some outside the box thinking....albeit a low budget one.
Very
the calendar changed from 1959 to 1960
Every little thing that kept us out of the Rose Bowl in 2004:
-Makonnen slipping on his cut instead of catching the go-ahead TD against USC
-The hurricane postponing that Southern Miss game
-ASU losing to Arizona on the last weekend, hurting our computer ratings
-Utah going undefeated and stealing an auto-bid to the BCS
-Mack Brown
And let's add that cursed Arizona game in 2006:
-Marshawn falling down inside the 5 on his breakaway
-Phantom pass interference call on Hughes' interception
-DeSean's big toe was out of bounds
03-04 was my first year at Cal. That winter I visited a friend in NYC and went to the ESPN Zone alone to watch the Holiday Bowl while the friend II was visiting in NYC was working at a different bar that evening. I happened to meet some strangers who turned out to be Cal Alumni and we watched the game together. The next evening, my friend was again working bartending so I decided to jump on the train to head to Little Italy. Lo and behold, the same alumni I met the evening before were on the same train and also headed there. Such a strange and serendipitous experience! Of course, we ended up going to LIttle Italy and having dinner together that evening and I haven't seen them since.
Well that ruined my day...thanks sy..... ;-) ;-)
My hatred for Urban Meyer & Alex Smith began in 2004 w/ that undefeated Utah season, and the hurricane absolutely daggered us...Bears house that team in Sept.
Despite Utah going undefeated, despite ASU losing, what really cost us was that hurricane. If we play Southern Miss in September we win. Close or blowout, it probably doesn’t matter. The Big Game win was dominate enough that I believe had that been our last game of the season we would have made the Rose Bowl.
Agreed, and I think we would have blown them out as well.
Really if any one of those things goes differently we're in. That's what makes it so frustrating.
(Okay, I'm not sure if Mack Brown's groveling really had all that much impact in and of itself. It was just a rage-inducing thing for Cal fans to see.)
Mack's groveling doesn't get the traction without the re-scheduling of the Cal/USM game...put Cal in such a tough spot...going on the road across the country to face a solid, bowl bound Southern Miss team in Hattiesburg in a nationally televised game.
I'm getting all mad at it again.....going for a walk.
also not running the score up on S.Miss and Tedford not doing anything to counteract Mack.
Yes, this too.
Cal did run up 546 total yards of offense and held USM to 23 yards rushing...
But that game was still close with 6 minutes left...any pollster looking for a reason to jump ship on Cal after Mack's bitch session had it.
I think we also had a late touchdown called back on a bogus holding call. If that's added to the final score it might be worth a few more points in the polls.
To$hgate
Kevin Riley's attempt to run for a touchdown against Oregon State instead of throwing the ball away.
Longshore breaking his ankle the weekend before. (I think it was)
Two weeks, since we had a bye.
too soon...
Bruce Snyder being chased out by Bob Fucking Bockrath
Probably this over Kevin Riley, considering what Snyder did at ASU
Given the incoming recruits I think we content for the natty the next few years.
Pete Newell's early retirement.
Covid in 2 back to back seasons.
Branch
Davidians
Cliff ... was a good receiver
Jim Carrey
Very early in his career he was in quite a good drama called Doing Time on Maple Drive.
The Majestic is an underrated, quality Carrey flick by Frank ‘Shawshank Redemption’ Darabont...
Alright damn it, that's NOT one of them:
The Truman Show
Man in the Moon (which I watched by myself since my wife hated Andy Kaufman)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
I’ll agree with Eternal and Truman Show. I wasn’t a fan of Man in the Moon.
You probably didn't like The King of Comedy either - BTW it's a crying shame Scorsese only has won one Oscar.
Haven't seen The King of Comedy, tho if you like it, I probably won't ;-)
But agreed - Scorsese should have more than 1 Oscar, that's a fact.
I disliked all 3 of those movies, tho Truman was almost good, and am pleased that my incongruence w/ Cugel’s movie taste continues....
Wow, even Eternal Sunshine? That's a damn masterpiece.
Specifically Sunshine...hated that movie, tho admittedly I should give it another go...maybe I wasn't in the proper frame of mind, a very realistic possibility....
Has been in 3 great movies.
Batman Forever, Fun with Dick and Jane, and The Incredible Burt Wonderstone?
haha, try again.
Batman Forever, Fun with Dick and Jane, and The Incredible Burt Wonderstone
Sigh
Maybe you didn't hear him..
BATMAN FOREVER, FUN WITH DICK AND JANE, AND THE INCREDIBLE BURT WONDERSTONE
Misjudged
Cal football's ability. I thought we would go bowling.
The capability of using even average (forget about good) judgement and reason of an alarmingly large number of people put in management and oversight positions in a wide variety of public and private entities.
I publicly said Mac Jones was a horrible draft pick
Same here.
How many 9ers fans are wishing they took Mac Jones instead of Trey Lance?
Just about everybody. (Though that may not be fair to Lance, who has hardly had a chance to prove himself.)
Disagree, especially not at 3 once they make the trade up.
Mac Jones is Jimmy Garoppolo, they’re the same player...Mac was always going to look good early, bc he was the most game ready of the rookies.
Trey Lance will be the better QB in 5 years.
I think the argument is more that they didn't need to trade away all those picks when they could have just kept them and drafted Mac.
Well, that’s a different argument. And it’s hindsight. They made the deal in Feb to move up, so they likely had intel then.
After running it back again with so many 1-year deals, the 49ers thought (mistakenly??) they had a Super Bowl caliber roster. They were never going to trade Jimmy Garoppolo before this season and hand it over to a rookie, whether that rook is Trey Lance at 3 or Mac Jones at 12.
I mean, every argument about previous draft picks is a hindsight one.
Well, sure, of course...I was referring to the drawing of any conclusions based on 11 games of action on Mac Jones, and the lack thereof for Trey Lance. Mostly, tho, the implication that the Niners regret not drafting Mikey McCorkle Jones, bc he's not giving you anything that Jimmy G isn't, and we know that that's not enough to get you a ring.
I don’t know about this. I thought Lance was a reach. I think the biggest QB bust will be Wilson and Lance.
Agree with you on Wilson, he will be the biggest bust....already is, tho Lawrence does look lost in JAX right now.
Lance is going to be a stud...he’s a high character kid with immense physical tools that works way too hard, and is way too smart, to be a bust. The Niners said they were going to sit him for the year, so dunno why everyone is so up in arms bc that’s exactly what they’re doing.
If Lance stayed at NDSU, he possibly wins another NC w/ that Bison team with all eyes on him and is the #1 pick in APR for DET...instead, he’s on the Niners w/ Kyle Shanahan & a fantastic running game.
Respectfully.
I see. Were you trying to stave off dehydration (hangover) or avoiding multiple trips to the bathroom during the night?
I'm supposed to have less water in evening now since I can't make it thru the night without a bathroom trip :-/
He'll also end up with additional liver damage because if he takes aspirin while drunk or nursing a hangover. Better to take ibuprofen and avoid the salicylates.
And here I am commenting on an Onion article. Oy.
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Today in Covid
I was just talking to my older daughter - the college arranged with Rite Aid to come to campus and give booster shots yesterday, they got 1000 students sorted out, which 1) is quite a lot for the 7 hours or so they were open, and 2) is half the student body. I think as much as anything it's a reflection of how much the kids do not want any repeats of last year.
Beavers catch Covid and are unlikely to be invited to any New Years Day Bowl.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/first-cases-of-covid-19-discovered-in-canadian-wildlife-1.5689318
OUR CRUMBLING DEMOCRACY
https://twitter.com/LindsayHameroff/status/1466103421421989892?s=20
House Republicans honor Rosa Parks in a tweet, which is ironic since they're trying to make it illegal to learn about who she is.
https://twitter.com/HouseGOP/status/1466172885849059331
Apparently they're working on making grammar illegal too
Abrams running for GA governorship in '22
https://www.ajc.com/politics/politics-blog/breaking-stacey-abrams-is-running-for-georgia-governor-in-2022/VRUXXJSQWBBAXAZQZV72FLP4LM/
She's gonna get a TON of money from outside GA.
https://twitter.com/sarahmaclean/status/1466156762491498503?s=20
PRO
[NHL] Lemiuex suspended for biting Tkachuk. This is not a repeat from 1995.
https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/article256242632.html
[MLB] Giants resign Alex Woods for 2 years
https://twitter.com/SFGiants/status/1466120084183678976
And Alex Cobb...
What an interesting Zaidi special. An older (34) guy who is frequently injured and doesn't have overpowering stuff. But he doesn't walk many, strikes out a fair share of batters, and is a ground ball pitcher. But he's available for $10m/year after the Orioles and age destroyed his contract value. Perhaps the Giants defense will make him look like a star.
https://www.rotowire.com/baseball/player.php?id=9504
SFGate alluded to the fact that he could be adversely affected by the impending pitch clock, as he works slower than Damien Moore on a breakaway....
MLB begins lockout. Bummer.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32761620/mlb-mlbpa-fail-reach-new-labor-agreement-league-issues-lockout-first-1990
A baseball lockout on Dec. 1 has effectively no real impact. If it isn't resolved by March, then we have a whole other situation. But that so many people with so much money can't get this right is not encouraging by any stretch, but it does help shed light on why so many other unfathomable mistakes are made in baseball.
Yup. Not time to panic until Spring Training is delayed.
Exactly...if they’re still locked out in March, we got troubles.
73 days until when pitchers and catchers report...
That can be pushed back a month with no real adverse affects. ~10-15% of the pitchers in MLB can pitch consistently, and they have been working out all along anyway. A couple of intra-squad games and they will be ready. The rest, as has been demonstrated repeatedly over the last several years, are wildly inconsistent at best, and not able to go multiple innings appearance after appearance at any time. A handful of outings in spring training obviously isn't going to fix it, or it would have before now.
Enough pitchers do off season throwing now that this should work. Many come in already having thrown some since at least Jan or even middle of Dec.
The lack of access for players and the training staffs will likely have an effect...look for more injuries next year.
That is a good point. Health issues not getting proper treatment is a 24/7/365.25 problem that only get worse with more time. There should be an exception for that in any agreement addressing time following the expiration of an agreement as long as a new agreement is the intent.
That's a good point. Also club trainers are not allowed to see the players so those that are recovering from injury are not allowed to use the facilities. Like those recovering from TJ surgery and stuff like that. Which is kinda crap. You would think it would be in the best interest to allow those rehabbing to continue to see club trainers if they're still under contract.
You also could have visa issues for Latin American players...while the lockout is not a huge issue until spring, it's still not good. Sigh.
I have so much respect for the partnership that the NBA owners and players have built. They're light years ahead of the other three leagues.
The MLB situation is just sad, right now. There is no trust. None.
MLB has always had the worst relationship between owners and players of all the major sports leagues.
I’m actually more on the players side than in years past...the owners are making ungodly amounts of money, so them crying poor is insulting.
In a fight between players and owners, I’ll always be on the players side, regardless of sport.
That being said, it seems that MLB has always had issues between the owners and players, much more so than the other sports.
Agree. Throwing out caps and floors is kind of ridiculous while profits rise. Only way you get to a cap is if revenue picture changes dramatically, which it hasn’t at least not yet. Demanding stuff like this is just a waste of time. Eventually some deal will be done that trades enhanced luxury tax for penalties on tanking teams (eg, cut revenue sharing of teams that don’t spend), but otherwise keeps system relatively the same. Unfortunately labor lawyers and negotiators are all about brinksmanship. If you aren’t nuking the place you aren’t trying. Whatever
CAL
I saw an MLB channel interview with Marcus Semien at his Texas introduction. He can't wear number ten anymore so he switching to two, which is the number he said his dad wore while playing football at Cal.
Yet another awful move by the A's low balling this kid.
Anyone want to guess attendance on Saturday.
Over/under at 15,000
38000
22,589. There's my oddly specific guess.
I think there will be more than 15K just in $C fans alone.
I think that's how many band members they travel with
If Lincoln Riley were coaching the game, sure but I doubt that many travel for this game. Maybe they will do they can rub it in our faces that they got Lincoln Riley?
He'll be there tho...
Somebody call Jeff Gillooly.
That always reminds me of The Understudy Seinfeld episode with Bette Midler…
Just watched that one again maybe a week ago.
One of my favorites- Frank Costanza’s line of what Kim’s dad said to him back in Korea…”This guy…this is not my kind of guy!” always cracks me up!
GO BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bears vs. OSU tonight in men's BB. Will we reach 4-4 and 1-0 in conference?
There aren't many games Cal 'should' win. But this is one of those games. Favored by 3, us coming off a decent win while they've lost 5 in a row. Let's hope the trends don't reverse.
ASU looks awful too and Stanford is no great shakes. The bottom of the conference is pretty crowded.
If no fans go, was there even a game?
A tree falls in a forest. If no one was there, would the sound even be heard?
exactly
Chase Garbers non-committal about returning for another season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsnHvusUHYE
Former Cal QB commit Adrian Martinez enters transfer portal...
I would not be surprised if he enters the portal if his draft stock doesn't improve. He really needs to have a great game against USC.
He isn’t being drafted so I think he has no choice really but to come back to Cal or transfer.
I am betting he transfers to SDSU but I think it would be very interesting if he transfers to ucla.
I think there is virtually zero chance of him being drafted or even making a team as an UDFA. I think the deciding factor is whether Wilcox & staff will offer him a post-graduate opportunity or start rebuilding under Kai Milner. However, not playing Milner in the Arizona game makes me think that he'll be back. Then again, Musgrave has done a thing or two that have left me scratching my head.
Agreed - will be shocked if Garbers ever sniffs an NFL roster...I think Chase will check out his options but at the end of the day, will be back to break all of Cal's QB records. Wilcox/Garbers is like Shanahan with Jimmy G - he's the only QB he can win with, which is telling for all the wrong reasons.
Yeah, I would be excited about turning the page to a new QB were it not for the AZ game. Please no more of that ever again
[Narrator] "There was more. There. Will. Always. Be. More."
Musgrave's contract expires next month, so he might not even be the OC next year.
Yeah but I'd hate to see who Wilcox would bring in if Musgrave left
Unless it's Tedford...
The next Tedford is not Tedford. It’s some guy in his 30s/40s with an innovative offense and eagerness to make a name for himself. You know, like Tedford
No way will it be Tedford.
Right or wrong, I think Cal's O showed enough life with Musgrave for him to likely get another deal, tho I have serious reservations about the complexity of his scheme, especially after watching Glover yuck it up for 4Q's in Tucson.
An argument could be made that Musgrave should lose his job for THAT embarrassment alone. And the fact that Milner did not see a single snap despite Glover's ineptitude is a really bad sign for a possible Garbers-less Cal team in '22. If he's not ready to play in that mess, than how the hell is he going to be counted on to be ready anytime soon.
To me easily the most disappointing thing this year was the debacle in AZ. I know a bunch of guys were missing not just Chase, but wow that was awful. This is football, people get hurt all the time and have to be replaced by the back up. How can the backup at the single most important position be so thoroughly unprepared and incapable. It was absolutely mind boggling.
The UCLA game was also a serious stain on his resume. Azzinaro is known for blitz-heavy defenses and Cal had no answer throughout the game. It's incredibly frustrating to watch the offense stagnate for most of the game, just like it did against Nevada, WSU, and Arizona.
Musgrave seems like the offensive version of Clancy Pendergast. He's either going to put together a great gameplan or an atrocious one, and the team will be stuck with it and unable to adjust over the course of the game.
I'd rather go through the growing pains of the Milner era than have Chase return because if he does, 2023 will just be a repeat of 2021
I dunno. I like winning football games.
I think the difference might be 1 to 2 games.
That's a big difference for a team perpetually teetering at .500
I suppose I should be more specific. I think with Chase, we win 5 or 6 next season, without him, 3 or 4.
It takes years for a program to build momentum and improve it's standing in the CFB landscape. Oregon or Utah weren't built overnight - they were both nothing programs not that long ago. But each year of success was built on the one before and eventually they got to where Cal aspires to be.
If Cal ends this year at 5-7, I want at least 6 wins and a bowl next year, then build on that. With Garbers, I think that happens. Without him, it probably doesn't. I'm not going to worry about 2023 right now - if we keep momentum through 2022, then 2023 will take care of itself.
Without Garbers, next year is very lean.
SDSU makes more sense. They don't even have a starting QB listed on their depth chart for the CCG vs Utah St.
I agree and here is another wild card, I could see Christopher Brooks transferring to sdsu. He is from San Diego and he would more than likely be the starter in a run heavy offense.
https://twitter.com/SportsPac12/status/1466195923239718917
In honor of the Cal/USC game... James Bethea
"Y'ALL READY?!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_fShwQlANc#t=21s
I'm having a hard time getting excited about this one. The regular season is technically over, a bowl game is out of reach, and the Bears always seem to struggle against USC no matter how awful the Trojans are. I'll record it and watch it on Sunday morning but...meh.
It's still gameday. There aren't very many of those, regardless of the circumstances. I'm betting some of the players are looking forward to a chance to play. Undoubtedly, some of the band kids too. Probably some family members glad to see someone's first or last major minutes. It's kind of like 3rd tier bowl games. These same matchups would be big deals if the same teams played in the first month of the season, vs the last one.
If I were playing on the field or in the band, I'd be pumped for another game. And I'd be excited if I were attending (or more specifically, attending the tailgate). But 2500 miles away at the tail of a disappointing season...meh.
That said, I'm already looking forward to the 2022 season and hopefully attending the ND game (barring some Covid-22 breakout that decimates the planet).
Yeah, this is the last one of only 12 games in a year. We will have to wait 9 months until next Cal football game. So let's enjoy this game.
I actually will enjoy the next 9 months without a Cal football game more than I will enjoy Saturday....mostly bc I will not be there to enjoy the gameday festivities....
haha you can look at it that way too.
Let's pretend this is the Pac12 championship game we've all dreamed about
This is a good idea!
in the meantime, it sounds like the SC team and staff are coming apart at the seams:
Are there any decommits coming our way?
If Cal doesn't beat this USC team on Senior Day, at home, with a QB starting his 34th game, they probably wont sniff a win for the next 15 years.
Agreed. No excuses - we have to win this. I don't want to be talking Sunday morning about how Musgrave didn't adjust.
We've lost to 3 teams that fired their coaches mid-season and another who was otherwise winless this season--Cal has no problem losing to teams coming apart at the seams.
Observation: Beating Cal is associated with have a terrible football season.
This will make losing to SC even more frustrating.
So Cal is gonna lose is what you're saying...
The antithesis to "So, you're saying there's a chance..."
https://twitter.com/Ryan_Kartje/status/1466443054148116485?s=20
Weird.
And so we can hang out at the tailgate!!!
Are you going to be at the tailgate?
Yes, and I'm bringing people.
Is that a threat?
Yes, but I think it's my guests who are threatened
At least you'll have bulgogi tortas
I'm going to bring some egg rolls so he can have those along with the tortas.
your game face