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Scootie's avatar

It's Fat Bear Week, everyone! Go vote on today's first round matchups. https://explore.org/fat-bear-week

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GoldenSD81's avatar

The Big Lie, I will demand a recount and full audit if my bear doesn’t win.

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SGBear's avatar

Mac

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Terence's avatar

Last night at Pub Quiz, during the music section one of the songs was Louie Armstrong singing Mack the Knife - and I started singing Mac Tonight - I think that advertisment stopped airing in like 1990.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

The Big Mac is basically the Club Sandwich of burgers. I don’t mind them but I prefer the quarter pounder.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

and Me. The clip that Paul Rudd always showed when he went on Conan's show.

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SGBear's avatar

"The Beggar's Opera" was a satirical 1728 English musical that adapted popular contemporary tunes and added new lyrics. It lampooned corruption via the main character who was a highwayman. This was later adapted into a German version via the 1928 German musical "Die Dreigroschenoper" that had the same plot. The smash hit from that was "Die Moritat von Mackie Messer", a song you'll no doubt recognize:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7eO7MKEZAY

The musical was later translated back into English and had a disastrous run in America of only 10 days in 1933. The play was reworked 22 years later and had a successful six-year off-Broadway run. One year into that run, Louis Armstrong covered it as an instrumental. Four years later, Bobby Darin sang "Mack the Knife", which is why we all know the tune about "MacHeath" the early 18th century highwayman and the murderous things he does with his knife.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Little Mac, from Tyson’s Punch Out. King Hippo was a real challenge until I finally figured out how to handle him.

Glass Joe reminds me of Kris Bryant...sooooooo soft.

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Scootie's avatar

I've never had a Big Mac. I've had plenty of McDonald's, just never a Big Mac.

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Terence's avatar

They're fine - I'll eat them every once in a while - especially since we don't have quarter pounders here.

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HeyStudentsBears's avatar

i have had them once or twice. i dont like the special sauce

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Newellbany's avatar

What was that ad making fun of McDonald's a little while ago where the McD's executives were talking about their hamburger innovations and somebody brought up the "special" sauce. A woman in the room was like "isn't it just thousand isl..." and everybody was like "SHHHHHHHHHHH!"

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Cugel's avatar

Never? That surprises me, even I've had one, although I think I preferred quarter pounders

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SGBear's avatar

Give the DBD a single line from a commercial jingle

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Wiata78's avatar

...and away go troubles, down the drain!

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I guarantee it!

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Scootie's avatar

The best part of waking up...

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Wiata78's avatar

How you do find something like this?

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SGBear's avatar

Step 1. be old AF

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heyalumnigo's avatar

PLTM!!! holy forking shirtballs that's awesome. I initially didn't click on the link because I thought it was just a regular Folger's commercial.

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MoriBear's avatar

That's *something* in your cup.

That was awesome. When they put their foreheads together, I thought, "that's pretty creepy". But thought it was still a Folgers commercial. Got me!

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Dublin, Berkeley, San Lorenzo...

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MoriBear's avatar

Cupertino, San Jose?

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sycasey's avatar

For NorCal kids only . . .

"I'm a credit man."

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SGBear's avatar

*cringe*

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sycasey's avatar

Always felt bad for those ladies having to carry Paul around . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0B2GZsNbwE

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WilderThanGene's avatar

For a great low rate you can get online, go to the General and save some time!

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Tangtpt's avatar

Let's see how old we are...

"When you say Bud, you've said it all"

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Cugel's avatar

Go for the Gusto...

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WilderThanGene's avatar

I'm from the "Zima. Zomething different." era.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

Not to be topped by Richard Lewis in the Boku commercials, telling us it was a drink for adults.

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goldenone's avatar

Farms...in Berkeley? Mooooo!

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FiatSlug's avatar

Dublin, Berkeley, San Lorenzo, Cupertino, San Jose!

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heyalumnigo's avatar

damn...should've read before I posted.

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MoriBear's avatar

And I shoulda read further down before I added to two 408 shops

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Berkelium97's avatar

1-877-KARS-4-KIDS K-A-R-S Kars for Kids

That commercial singlehandedly pushed me off commercial radio and entirely onto NPR

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WilderThanGene's avatar

I've listened to a lot of sports radio over the last decade -- formerly WFAN (NY) and now WEEI (Boston) -- and this song is forever seared into my head.

I think it's worse when you listen to these stations online, because they have a smaller set of national commercials that they play OVER and OVER and OVER again, sometimes the same commercial multiple times in a row, just on repeat. Whereas if you listen over the real airwaves on an analog radio, there's more variety and local advertisements.

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FiatSlug's avatar

I despise that ad.

That is all.

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goldenone's avatar

I always hit the mute button when those ads come up.

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FiatSlug's avatar

If I'm in the car, I will hit the power button and simply wait it out.

That's how much I despise that ad.

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MoriBear's avatar

For me, that's "I'm Tom Shane..."

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FiatSlug's avatar

In my mind, that series of commercials is a step-down in annoyance from the singing kid. Although, I do find his flat monotone to be incredibly flat. There's just a wee bit of inflection to let you know he's human. Tom Shane sounds so...repressed.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I always thought it was the real Tom shane. But in Louisville it's a different voice.

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Newellbany's avatar

I'll be shocked if anyone recognizes this jingle, but it played on every A's broadcast on KSFO in the late 80s/early 90s and is engrained in my brain. Good luck -

"Every beer man has his once in a while beer..."

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Matthew’s…6400 Mission Street…top of the hill, Daly City…

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heyalumnigo's avatar

this was my other one.

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TD_24's avatar

DBD Kitchen

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TD_24's avatar

DBD AV

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Started season 3 of Sex Education and I’m enjoying it. Two episodes in but it is very funny.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Started Midnight Mass on Netflix....interesting. Just 1 episode in...

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GlueAndBold's avatar

It's light on scares and has a double helping of overlong monologues but I found the final two episodes properly exciting.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

I can deal with some monologues, provided the writing & acting is good, that remains to be seen...

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GlueAndBold's avatar

It rests very heavily on the performance of Hamish Linklater, who I think does an excellent job.

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TD_24's avatar

Crumbling Democracies

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SGBear's avatar

Oh jeez. MIT Review previews report where there are a huge amount of foreign troll farms trying to influence cultural views

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/

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GoldenSD81's avatar

So do people think the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill and the Reconciliation Infrastructure Bill are DOA now?

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Cugel's avatar

Not yet...

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SGBear's avatar

Australia's Second Amendment is non-negotiable!!!*

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1442474803978440705

* Australia's second amendment in 1910 allowed the central government to assume the debt of state governments

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SGBear's avatar

AOC challenger has a new commercial. It doesn't mention much about her Qanon and Proud Boy support

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1442981570684637185

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TD_24's avatar

Today in COVID

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SGBear's avatar

You don't need to catch Covid to die of it. A thread.

https://twitter.com/summerbrennan/status/1442806675325476867

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FiatSlug's avatar

Ugh. Not nearly enough words, and still one too many.

Anti-vaxxers are fucking terrorists.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Ignerrorist

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TD_24's avatar

Cal

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GoBearsium106's avatar

Marcus Semien sets MLB record for HRs by a second baseman. Go Bears!

https://www.si.com/mlb/bluejays/news/semien-homers-to-set-second-basemen-hr-record

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heyalumnigo's avatar

Cal vs WSU tickets. Cheapest with fees on Seatgeek is $38. I thought it would've gone down.

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g.oso's avatar

still overpriced

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Battle for the Bottom of the North this weekend. I like our chances to beat WSU.

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Newellbany's avatar

Go Bears!!!

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SGBear's avatar

Benefit for Cal Band. Oct 8 @ University Club - Memorial Stadium

Dinner, open bar, raffle.

Tix start @ $240/each.

https://events.trustevent.com/templates/index.cfm?fuseaction=templates.home&eid=4109

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g.oso's avatar

hard pass

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TD_24's avatar

Other College

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SGBear's avatar

UW Milwaukee midfielder sets NCAA record for fastest goal @ 3.2 seconds. Opponent was Youngstown State (OH).

https://twitter.com/MKE_WSoccer/status/1442237861290553347

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SGBear's avatar

Who could have possibly predict this? Boise State cancels vaccination/test requirements at games.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/college/mountain-west/boise-state-university/article254510197.html

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GoldenSD81's avatar

The only thing I find shocking is that this lasted as long as it did and they didn’t scrap it before the season started.

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AndyPanda's avatar

It's a recruiting/market reach event. And a way to get an interesting game between 2 teams that don't have the schedule room to do a home and home. And I agree, unless its an uncommonly cool situation, I VASTLY prefer on-campus games to neutral site ones; they are almost always a better fan/customer experience.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Mormons love Las Vegas, so I’m sure the BYU fan base will love this.

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Terence's avatar

A decent percentage of Las Vegas residents are mormon - when Cal played the Vegas Bowl, CGB had a ton of discussion about this.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

Notre Dame wanting more Polynesian kids' eyes on their program I'd wager

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Newellbany's avatar

I know these destination games make money, but unless it's a bowl game, I'll take my college football on campus, thank you.

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DC Trojan's avatar

They're a bit iffy. It's been a while since SC was a draw for anything on the east coast - I think the last time I saw them here was against Syracuse at the Met Life stadium, and to be honest that was as far as I was going in one day to see them - if it had been at the Carrier Dome, I'd have passed.

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Newellbany's avatar

When a college game is at an NFL stadium, the big city swallows it up. It's just not a college football weekend in the same way.

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Terence's avatar

On the other hand, I saw Aaron Rodgers debut against Kansas State in Arrowhead Stadium. Atmosphere was not lit and it took me 3 hours to get out of the parking lot, but I didn't have to go to Manhattan either.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I agree but I view these games as more for recruiting, money, and a chance for transplant alums/fans to go to a game without having the travel far.

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Berkelium97's avatar

Three of our next five games are against the bottom-25 (WSU, Colorado, @Arizona). A loss to any of them is a death knell for our waning hopes of a bowl game.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

A loss to any of them is a death knell for Wilcox and staff.

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FiatSlug's avatar

At least it should be.

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Cugel's avatar

TypiCAL sour old Blue - not winnable? Both TCU and UW were winnable.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Both games were winnable. Why didn't Cal win those games?

The errors by the team in critical situations stood in the way of a Cal win. Turnovers, penalties, dropped passes. That's on the coaching staff. When the players do better, it's because the coaching staff has prepared them better and positioned them better to win.

Nothing sour about it. Just being real.

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Cugel's avatar

...but that's not what you said.

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FiatSlug's avatar

If I said earlier that the TCU and UW games were not winnable, I apologize for changing my tone from serious to sarcastic without raising the appropriate flag. Or was it sarcastic to serious?

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FiatSlug's avatar

What did I say?

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I agree, it should be but this Cal and it probably won’t. To be honest, unless we go 1-11 Wilcox is coming back next season. We could probably go 3-9 or even 2-10 and Wilcox would probably be allowed to return with some changes to his coaching staff.

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g.oso's avatar

starting with Sirmon and Ragle

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goldenone's avatar

Hopefully the mighty Bears will finally show their stuff and put away lesser opponents without all the drama of a Greek Tragedy.

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FiatSlug's avatar

So, you're saying there's a chance...

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TD_24's avatar

I wouldve posted this on the power rankings article but it slipped my mind. I would just like to compliment Oregon State coach Jonathon Smith for the job he is doing up there. For years Wilcox had my praise of doing the most with the least, but considering 2019 (even though they went 5-7) and this season so far, Coach Smith has that team punching above its weight very well and im impressed. I would not want to face them on any level, as they seem scrappy enough to want to upset anyone in the conference (see Civil War last season). Cristobal will probably win P12COTY if UO finishes well but Coach Smith should be right there with him considering the building of that program.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Which is surprising because I was never that impressed with him as the UW OC and I know plenty of UW fans who were happy to see him leave.

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TD_24's avatar

Pro

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SGBear's avatar

ICYMI: Arizona Cards fails to be a student of history of what happens when you attempt a >67 yard field goal with your all-blocking crew on the field.

https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1442193451873759232

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Cugel's avatar

Just punt the ball! or Punting is winning!

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FiatSlug's avatar

Or simply take a knee. There was literally two seconds left at the snap.

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https://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/status/1443310247477719046

Adam McCalvy

@AdamMcCalvy

Devin Williams is being placed on the 10-day IL with a fractured right hand. He told us he had too much to drink after Sunday’s celebration, got upset about something and punched a wall with his pitching hand. He will need surgery.

“If I could take it back, I would.”

1:22 PM · Sep 29, 2021 from St Louis, MO·Twitter for iPhone

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SGBear's avatar

Wait. What? Tampa Bay and Montreal may be planning to BOTH be home cities for the Rays? Go RayPos? Go Ex-Rays?

https://twitter.com/sportslogosnet/status/1441906705403625472

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FiatSlug's avatar

This is about pushing Tampa to take on financing for the stadium. Splitting one franchise between two cities 1,300 miles apart is a harebrained idea that cannot work in the long term.

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Newellbany's avatar

I would love it if it did happen because it would give me an annual excuse to make the drive up the Northway. God, I love Montreal.

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FiatSlug's avatar

You need a baseball game to go to Montreal?!

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Cugel's avatar

Me too, and not that I can act on this, but I found Montreal women to be among the most attractive I've ever encountered.

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Newellbany's avatar

Boy howdy

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Newellbany's avatar

Tamponreal Ex-Rays

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sycasey's avatar

This seems like a terrible idea.

The Rays have a similar problem as the A's: a terrible stadium in a bad location and ownership that is too cheap to do anything about it.

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sycasey's avatar

Giants beat D-Backs 6-4

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/giants/article/Giants-beat-Diamondbacks-stay-2-games-ahead-of-16495240.php

Dodgers over Padres 2-1

https://www.truebluela.com/2021/9/28/22699471/walker-buehler-scoreless-dodgers-padres-recap

Both of their opponents tried to come back against the bullpen but fell short. Giants lead the NL West by 2 games with 5 left to play.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Can anyone explain why on earth Brandon Belt would be BUNTING, putting himself at significantly increased risk for injury deep in an important pennant race, and headed into the post-season? If that was a Kapler call, it would rival his worst decisions ever (and as last season's stretch drive proved, there are lots of them). If it wasn't, failing to coach Belt our of such lunacy would be an equally bad decision.

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FiatSlug's avatar

I don't think bunting carries significantly greater risk than swinging a bat.

The result of losing Brandon Belt for up to 4 weeks certainly makes it easy to second guess the decision for Belt to bunt. But at the time it was a freak injury and it still is a freak injury.

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AndyPanda's avatar

Leaves both hands as stationary targets further into the strike zone for an extended amount of time.

I get the idea of trying to beat the shift, but you can't lose site of the big picture when making risk/reward analysis at this point and expect optimal results. And as good as the talent is at making up for mistakes, the margin of error with the Dodgers, and now the Cardinals, out there is pretty marginal.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Are you implying that the pitch was intended to injure? Or that Belt was lazy?

You can't always account for freak injuries.

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sycasey's avatar

I would want my players practicing ways to get on base if defensive shifts are going to be a thing. You can't expect that a pitch is going to come in high and tight at the hands JUST when a guy is trying to bunt. The chances of bunting for a hit are probably greater than the chances of that.

This is 100% hindsight criticism.

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sycasey's avatar

He's been doing it on occasion throughout the season, trying to bunt to beat the infield shift. It's not a sacrifice play.

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SGBear's avatar

You're pinned at your own 1 yard line. Do you a) go into a 12-personnel package to at least threaten to do the obvious or b) go into a no back set. And what kind of play do you call if somehow you chose the latter?

https://twitter.com/NFLBrasil/status/1442229714911825925

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AndyPanda's avatar

Has a LOT to do with how your o-line stacks up with the opponent's d-line and what the opponent's edge rush/blitz capabilities and preferences are. In that position, you have to be sure you can block for whatever play or alignment you choose to run.

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sycasey's avatar

Yeah, that's the big question. How is your OL doing? If there's a good chance they're going to screw it up and maybe even commit holding in the end zone then you play conservatively and don't do anything fancy.

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SGBear's avatar

Cards win 17th in a row. Will play either Giants or Doyers, whichever does not win the NL West.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32302659/st-louis-cardinals-win-17th-consecutive-game-clinch-national-league-second-wild-card-berth

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Newellbany's avatar

The only salvation for this season will be if the Giants could slide into the wildcard game and then be one and done. Man, that'd be great.

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Newellbany's avatar

hey, the Giants have been actively sabotaging A's stadium efforts in Oakland, hoping it becomes a one-team market. If they succeed, you'll really see bitter.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Further, if Fisher and Kaval weren't so fucking greedy, they could easily stay in Oakland and build a new stadium at the Coliseum site. But Nooooo. Fisher and Kaval have to have a new stadium along with a real estate deal that will enrich them from merely fucking obscene to really over-the-top-I-aspire-to-be-Elon-Musk obscene.

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OskiOfTarth's avatar

In any case, when the Coliseum is about to come down, they should first order up 10 Chinooks to lift off Mt Davis & transplant it to the top of Allegiant.

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Newellbany's avatar

this is about whether the A's ownership is incompetent - of course they are. This is about whether the Giants can fuck themselves. I submit they can.

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FiatSlug's avatar

"You're right. Radar. He has a lot to learn about anatomy."

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I love this. Let the hate flow through you…

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AndyPanda's avatar

Tremendous level of vitriol, normally reserved for rants directed at the Yankees. Have you considered therapy?

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Newellbany's avatar

I have two least favorite teams, now. The Giants brought that on themselves.

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Newellbany's avatar

this *isn't* about whether the A's ownership is incompetent...

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FiatSlug's avatar

Oh, but it is.

The Giants are a convenient target. There is this narrative that the Giants are somehow the mortal enemy of the A's. Where that comes from, I don't know, but it is trash.

Trying to pin the woes of A's fans on the machinations of Giants brass is a simple displacement of where the ire belongs: John Fisher and Dave Kaval.

Howard Terminal is pie-in-the-sky and Fisher and Kaval are using it to distract from their real purpose: get a sweet real estate deal either in Oakland or Slots Vegas.

If Fisher and Kaval were anything other than evil greedy bastards we'd be much further along in locating a new stadium in Oakland. We might even have had a new stadium by now. Rebuilding on the Coliseum site has always been a possibility. ALWAYS. Lew Wolff (and now John Fisher) simply want the latest shiny object: a downtown ballpark.

To be fair, San Jose should have been a done deal, except for Bud Selig. Selig is an idiot for not twisting the Giants' arm on the San Jose market rights. Selig is also an idiot for not using his weight as Commissioner (while he was in that role) to get a new stadium for the A's in Oakland.

It is in the interests of MLB to keep the A's in Oakland, but Selig doesn't understand that. In fact, the NFL didn't understand that about the Raiders. Pro sports franchise owners are always in pursuit of the next buck without regard for the future of the game. That's where a Commissioner needs to step in. But Selig was conflicted because he was an owner and his son-in-law is still employed by the Brewers.

Even Jean Quan's proposal of a baseball stadium at the Coliseum with residential development surrounding it was a better idea than Howard Terminal.

John Fisher has been majority owner of the A's since 2005. He became full owner in November 2016 when Lew Wolff sold Fisher his 10% share.

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Newellbany's avatar

Nobody is disagreeing with you about the terribleness of the A's ownership. They suck, for sure. But I will reject calls for constraint of my Giants hatred. I'm allowed to both hate John Fisher AND the Giants. It doesn't have to be a binary choice.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Hate on the Giants all you want. Just know that I'm that rare breed who has been a fan of both teams (since the A's moved to Oakland in 1968) and I cannot fathom why anyone wants to lay the evil greed of John Fisher on the Giants.

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sycasey's avatar

Hate them all you like. It's blaming them for the A's stadium situation that's faulty.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Oy…I’m pulling for the Howard Terminal park more than anything, if for no other reason than to keep Newellbany from getting bitter…

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Scootie's avatar

Can someone explain to me how the Giants are making the Oakland city council vote no on Howard Terminal?

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FiatSlug's avatar

This isn't just an issue for Oakland City Council. The A's term sheet includes an Infrastructure Improvements District (IID) authorized by Alameda County. The Alameda County Board of Supervisors hasn't taken a vote; two Supes have said they will not vote to approve the IID.

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Newellbany's avatar

Not sure what you mean. The Oakland City council voted FOR Howard Terminal - they just didn't give the A's everything they wanted (to their credit).

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Newellbany's avatar

thank you for your support

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O.Overall's avatar

I’m a “Coliseum City” guy - seems the best and most obvious solution. This is like a religion!

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Newellbany's avatar

I've talked to a couple friends who are developers about the viability of Coliseum City. In a nutshell, they say that if you have a couple billion to spend on a project, you're much more likely to do it somewhere else that is a safer bet to be a profitable location. That doesn't mean the Coliseum site couldn't work, but developers get to choose where to invest and my friends are simply doubtful that anyone will invest there. Fans may want the coliseum to be the site, but the people who might put forward the money matter more.

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O.Overall's avatar

I have clients that are developers and I think they would fall all over themselves to get in on that. A project of that size in that location on multiple transit lines and right by the airport - it is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

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Newellbany's avatar

Ask them and let us know. I'm legit curious. The cost of construction in the Bay Area is nuts - the developers I know aren't even sure Howard Terminal can make money. They definitely wouldn't bet on a site in East Oakland. This was hard for me to hear, but I trust their expertise.

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FiatSlug's avatar

Knock it off.

Fisher and Kaval don't need that kind of help. They're fucking incompetent. And evil, besides.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

The A are basically the Chargers of MLB. Incompetent ownership, playing in a dilapidated stadium, continue to threaten to move unless the city gives them free land and pays for a new stadium.

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Newellbany's avatar

What's the matter with an A's fan hating the Giants? You don't think the Giants have been sabotaging?

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FiatSlug's avatar

I think sabotaging is besides the point. Larry Baer knows he doesn't have to do anything because Fisher and Kaval are very, very good at screwing up a good thing. Fisher has been at it longer than Kaval, and Fisher had an enabler in Lew Wolff.

How long has Fisher been part of the group that bought the A's from Schott & Hoffman? It's been that long that Fisher has been neglecting or messing with the A's.

With the notable exception of the Haas family, the A's have a snakebit franchise history of wealthy owners with cheap and stupid business sense when it comes to baseball. The Haas family showed that it was possible for the A's to be profitable and a powerhouse. Just because succeeding ownerships have failed to heed that lesson or refuse to look at the franchise as anything more than their piggy bank is not a reason to assume sabotage on someone else's part.

I want the A's to stay in the Bay Area, Oakland specifically. It's good for the franchise, it's good for MLB, it's good for both fanbases (the A's and the Giants). In fact, I would go so far to say that driving the A's from the Bay Area is against the Giants' interest.

Two team markets have an advantage that single team markets only wish they had: every MLB teams comes through those markets every year. With interleague play, a few teams in each league visit both teams in the same market. That's good for business. Plus, you get the intra-market interleague games as well, which are an added bonus. Drive the A's out and the Giants lose all that.

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Newellbany's avatar

Sure, the A's ownership is sucking. But remember that the Giants stole the Sacramento market by taking over the Rivercats, they advertise in the East Bay, and they are behind the scenes organizing the sham anti-stadium groups in Oakland. They're not innocent.

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sycasey's avatar

Giants are behind the anti-stadium campaigns? I haven't heard about that.

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Newellbany's avatar

A's have an elimination number of 2 with 4 games to go, and they'd have to jump over 3 teams to get to the wildcard. Not happening. At this point, should I be rooting for Seattle to beat my A's tonight to help get the Red Sox out of there? Am I allowed to do that? Three AL East teams in the playoffs is two too many.

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TD_24's avatar

My Blue Jays lost to the Yankees in the middle of a dogfight, didnt need to see that.

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AndyPanda's avatar

No one did.

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O.Overall's avatar

Old Mickey D’s menu in that pic seems basically like In N Out but with worse burgers

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goldenone's avatar

I can recall when Big Macs were $1.95 or something like that in the late 70's/early 80's.

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Newellbany's avatar

Unpopular opinion: Chick-Fil-A is a pedestrian chicken sandwich.

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SGBear's avatar

With talk like that, the Confederacy is going to invade into Manassas and then continue north to your house.

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Newellbany's avatar

I'll just bide my time until a Sunday, when the Chick-fil-A folks won't work.

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Tangtpt's avatar

Not unpopular at all. I would choose Popeye's and Wendy's any day over Chick-Fil-A.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

The one Popeye's spicy chicken sandwich I had was horrible. May have just been the location I went to since No 3 said they're pretty good. I think Chick-Fil-A has the best fast food chicken sandwiches.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I like Chick Fil A as well. I really like their fries as well and all their sauces.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

The Chick Fil A sauce is amazing. I tried making my own using a recipe I found online. It wasn't bad. Then I found Target sells a large bottle of it. Game changer!

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AndyPanda's avatar

Don't have experience with or much access to Popeye's, and if I'm at Wendy's I'm not getting that deep into the menu to have chicken when a Wendy burger is available. Chick-Fil-A featuring chicken is a change of pace advantage, and the times I've had them, have been perfectly adequate. (I'm not sure how un-pedestrian a chicken sandwich can be without getting too far into some fringe, probably a wildly over-spicy fringe.)

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DC Trojan's avatar

they're consistently okay, which is a perfectly adequate sales strategy

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TD_24's avatar

Mcdonalds burgers for me have been trash ever since I grew up, Im not sure what it was back in the day but for me Im strictly a chicken nuggets w bbq sauce type of guy.

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Tangtpt's avatar

I'm the same, except that I am also willing to have some of their breakfast items as well, like their sausage biscuit and hash browns.

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AndyPanda's avatar

One of their best, and best selling, items.

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goldenone's avatar

I tried an egg McMuffin once (not sure they still sell it) but have avoided these heavy, indigestion causing breakfast items.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

When I get McD breakfasts I do either the Sausage BIscuit or the Sausage McMuffin. I don't like the Egg McMuffin eggs. I do like the ones in the Sausage and Egg Biscuit. For some reason they make the eggs a different way for the two sandwiches.

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AndyPanda's avatar

No idea what happened in your experience, but they are excellent. And also not anywhere near big enough to be heavy in any sense (unless you but a whole bag of them). More of a breakfast snack, which is good on the run.

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SGBear's avatar

McD's burgers have remained essentially the same for half a century. However, the rest of their menu (eg, fries, shakes, pies) are quite different. I'll add a bit of perspective. Yes, McD's burgers are trash - but that's relative to other types of burgers. And chicken nuggets didn't exist. Back in the day, it was very expensive to buy consumer goods. Cars, clothes, and food were far more expensive on an inflation adjusted basis. And the quality/availability wasn't there. Where could you get a better burger than McDonalds? A restaurant, a competing fast food place, or make it yourself. On a relative basis, a restaurant burger is about the same value - which means that a restaurant burger is a multiple more expensive (eg, $3 vs. $18). McD's was cheaper than competing fast food, but it was comparable in quality. But if you went to a grocery store, fresh ground beef was not like today due to less efficient logistics. Grocery stores either laid out chunks of defrosted ground beef or you bought frozen ground beef in plastic tubes. If you got fresh ground beef, it was very expensive vs. frozen. And substitute foods that you'd make at home were also trash - often made with canned, frozen, powdered, and boxed ingredients. Food quality is exponentially better today.

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Terence's avatar

Also McD's tastes (mainly) the same no matter where you are on the globe. So if you've been on a train from Beijing to Moscow for.7 straight days, or have to grab something quick between meetings in Beijing, or are recovering from the flu in Paris - you know what you're getting and what it tastes like. And also getting a coke with ice in france in 1992 was nigh impossible.

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heyalumnigo's avatar

I loved the McDLT. Those were the best McD sandwiches. In the last 10 years the infrequent times I'd go I just got the $1 McChicken. Once both No 3 and I got a Big Mac just so he could try it.

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O.Overall's avatar

Good point re logistics! I actually don’t mind MCD’s, especially if I am in an airport or a foreign country. I do like their fries better than In N Out, which for some reason opted to go the soft/soggy route. The burgers cannot compare to a place like In N Out but they are so consistent, sometimes that hits the spot just fine.

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