I love to read the analysis of Twistnhook. He makes me feel intelligent. It’s a pleasure reading each work and telling myself that I understand it. All the while I marvel at the various pathways these schools are coming up with to get out of the ACC. Where do they see greener pastures?
Greener pastures in the SEC or the B!G where they will go from a dominant team to a middling team. But get more $ and, as they may hope, improve from there. Steel sharpens steel, I guess.
Middling team in the B1G? Really? In an 18 team league, if that’s what it is, you are saying that FSU would be somewhere between 7th and 11th roughly. Really? Care to name those teams ahead of them? I would be interested in seeing that list. FSU has three NC’s in the modern era (1980 on) in a conference where only about three other teams have ever won even one. FSU was 13-1 last season and is projected to make the 12 team playoffs this year. Let’s see that list.
Welp. TOSU and Michigan come to mind. But there are more variables for the B!G, such as climate. I would wish FSU the best of luck and be happy to be wrong, but, this year, FSU will probably win out, again, in the ACC and I doubt their end results would be as good in the B!G. I'd love to see how them beat USC, which gives obnoxious pride a whole new meaning. A slap down from a fellow public school, like FSU, would be a joy to watch.
I just don't see the logic of paying out extraordinary penalties and/or legal fees that may never be recouped with the pay differential in the B!G.
Many of the most knowledgeable people think that the final number will be around $250m, which is still a hefty sum. That would be $25m annually over a decade. Then compare that with the payout differential, $10m alone for just the playoffs, and it starts to come into focus.
But other factors play an important role as well. Today’s top high school players want to play in a P2. You cannot underestimate the importance of that. FSU has missed out on a couple of 5*s for exactly that reason. It is getting increasingly difficult to recruit against P2 programs. To remain among the elite, FSU has to get into a P2. No one argues otherwise.
Further, after FSU gets into the B1G, the BTAA will generate tens of millions more per year in research revenue. After remaining a sleepy run-of-the-mill state university for its existence, it recently woke up and now has very lofty expectations. The current BoT, president and AD are new and high achievers in their own right. Academically, FSU has surged to #53, tied with Minnesota and ahead of, in order, Michigan State, Penn State, Indiana, Iowa, Oregon and Nebraska. And they are quickly catching up to Maryland. Being a member of the BTAA is part of their design for the future. These goals are very realistic as Florida is now the 3rd largest state and fairly wealthy while many other, formerly great, states are static or going backwards. Catching up and passing them has been underway for years now and isn’t going to slow down. Florida has more and more money to spend while other states have less and less.
FSU has its best days ahead. Thanks for joining the conversation.
I will only add that no program that has ever wanted to leave a conference to date has ever failed to do so.
As far as ESPN goes, it is not their decision to make. If they decide next February to renew the ACC agreement for another nine years in an attempt to stymie FSU and then a court sides with either them or Clemson and the only money makers for ESPN leave, then where does that leave ESPN? With a billion dollar mistake. You think that ESPN is going to do that? I don’t.
I love to read the analysis of Twistnhook. He makes me feel intelligent. It’s a pleasure reading each work and telling myself that I understand it. All the while I marvel at the various pathways these schools are coming up with to get out of the ACC. Where do they see greener pastures?
Thank you for your kind words
Great to see you back in the posts, Mrs. Madsen!
Greener pastures in the SEC or the B!G where they will go from a dominant team to a middling team. But get more $ and, as they may hope, improve from there. Steel sharpens steel, I guess.
Middling team in the B1G? Really? In an 18 team league, if that’s what it is, you are saying that FSU would be somewhere between 7th and 11th roughly. Really? Care to name those teams ahead of them? I would be interested in seeing that list. FSU has three NC’s in the modern era (1980 on) in a conference where only about three other teams have ever won even one. FSU was 13-1 last season and is projected to make the 12 team playoffs this year. Let’s see that list.
Welp. TOSU and Michigan come to mind. But there are more variables for the B!G, such as climate. I would wish FSU the best of luck and be happy to be wrong, but, this year, FSU will probably win out, again, in the ACC and I doubt their end results would be as good in the B!G. I'd love to see how them beat USC, which gives obnoxious pride a whole new meaning. A slap down from a fellow public school, like FSU, would be a joy to watch.
I just don't see the logic of paying out extraordinary penalties and/or legal fees that may never be recouped with the pay differential in the B!G.
Many of the most knowledgeable people think that the final number will be around $250m, which is still a hefty sum. That would be $25m annually over a decade. Then compare that with the payout differential, $10m alone for just the playoffs, and it starts to come into focus.
But other factors play an important role as well. Today’s top high school players want to play in a P2. You cannot underestimate the importance of that. FSU has missed out on a couple of 5*s for exactly that reason. It is getting increasingly difficult to recruit against P2 programs. To remain among the elite, FSU has to get into a P2. No one argues otherwise.
Further, after FSU gets into the B1G, the BTAA will generate tens of millions more per year in research revenue. After remaining a sleepy run-of-the-mill state university for its existence, it recently woke up and now has very lofty expectations. The current BoT, president and AD are new and high achievers in their own right. Academically, FSU has surged to #53, tied with Minnesota and ahead of, in order, Michigan State, Penn State, Indiana, Iowa, Oregon and Nebraska. And they are quickly catching up to Maryland. Being a member of the BTAA is part of their design for the future. These goals are very realistic as Florida is now the 3rd largest state and fairly wealthy while many other, formerly great, states are static or going backwards. Catching up and passing them has been underway for years now and isn’t going to slow down. Florida has more and more money to spend while other states have less and less.
FSU has its best days ahead. Thanks for joining the conversation.
Agree with this. The Miami and FSU boards are convinced FSU is out soon. I don't see it. And don't see why ESPN would facilitate it.
I will only add that no program that has ever wanted to leave a conference to date has ever failed to do so.
As far as ESPN goes, it is not their decision to make. If they decide next February to renew the ACC agreement for another nine years in an attempt to stymie FSU and then a court sides with either them or Clemson and the only money makers for ESPN leave, then where does that leave ESPN? With a billion dollar mistake. You think that ESPN is going to do that? I don’t.
ESPN will definitely not facilitate their leaving. ESPN owns their rights and is interested in holding onto them.