I think this is a perfect time to exude resilience. Humble pie is bitter. I don't like it. The B1G invite isn't coming. We all get to watch as the PAC looks at the WAC with sympathy. Remember all the griping back in the BCS days? We now know how the other cheek feels. We need to move on. Our egos can take a break while we hunt some new blood and we have a better chance to the playoff now. The better players will follow those who perform in the post season. Conference money isn't everything, ask Gonzaga. The teams chasing the TV money very well could end up a rich loser for decades to come while the culture could change against their fortunes. Yeah we won't get the money we want, but lets make the money we generate count. Sure, our AAU buddies fled at the first sign of trouble. True colors were shown, we need to chin up and move forward. Turns out academic and regional relationships were just a convenience.
Economies are moving towards regionalism; politics are moving towards hostile nationalism; the North Atlantic current has been identified by the IPCC as having a near certain likelihood of full collapse within 5 years; we have the highest inflation any of us have ever seen in our lifetimes and yet somehow a national conference is good in the future scenarios to the powers at be. Which begs the question. Why are they the powers at be?
Imho this what’s wrong with business these days. You have these fuctards making off the cuff decisions like it’s going out of style with absolutely zero accountability. It’s one thing to be risk neutral opposed to risk averse but that’s not what this is. This is a risk fetish.
If I took this strategy of fox, cbs, et al to my ceo and said “look I’ve done scenarios work on everything you asked in the contextual and tx environments and my plan is to consolidate and nationalize in the midst of what I have also identified as an impending tech transformations likely to supercharge economic regionalism”
He would pimp slap the shit out of me right before he called security.
That said fire Christ and Knowlton for cause before they become pension eligible.
Life sucks when nobody loves you....Sigh.......It really is unbelievable how many steps had to go wrong for us to reach this point or that we have so many clueless administrators (from the Pac-12 and Berkeley) that have gotten us here as well. The big question that I have is will the Mountain West even feel like paying us the paltry 5 million a year to join their league? We don't have the fan base or money to go independent so that isn't an option. What comes next? Extinction of most Cal Sports? Reduction to club level? Eventual invitation to the Big-10 at a bargain-basement price? It would be nice if Christ and Knowlton had SOMETHING, ANYTHING to say about all of this.
I'm going to keep it real, I read their statement and I almost preferred the silence. Readimg them say "We are not watching and waiting," and only getting that statement now is like when you get t-boned by a teenager and they walk out of their car and tell you "I wasn't on my phone."
Ouch, if this is true our B1G share will suck. Thought OU and UW would be worth about 2/3 share in the $40M range. This is structured like the Rutgers deal where you could prolong the payback by borrowing against your full membership in 6 years.
Do you think we will ever hear anything at all from Knowlton and Christ?
Literally silence, not even a “blah blah blah we’re working on it” note. The silence is deafening and literally 50% or more of our student athletes are at risk of losing their sports in the next 12 months.
Potentially losing Cal sports, losing the A's, thank god I'm not a Raider fan. Really hope we can get a reduced rate Big 10 invite in the near future and let UCLA make up the difference. If ACC teams free up, the SEC may get involved, which could mean teams the Big 10 wants got to the SEC and their seat is available for Cal, but that may just be wishful thinking
"Hearing now there is a possibility B12 could go to 18 and bring in ASU/Utah/WSU/ORSU all at reduced shares for the remainder of the new contract and give them full membership at the next contract. "
If that's a thing at all, we and Furd need to start talking to the Big 12 asap to see if we can get in on the same terms as those four schools. All things considered I think we bring as much or more as they do.
Anyword yet if Pac-12 is going to try and put a new conference together around cal and Stanford. Start by inviting other AAU members in Rice and Tulane, keep Oregon /wash st of coarse. That’s 6. Add sdsu and smu. Maybe unlv and Colorado st to add some more markets. That 10 school group would be worth more than the mountain west.
It’s so depressing. Cal football has quite literally changed my life in so many positive ways. I didn’t go to Cal, so my experiences with cheering for the school aren’t the same as many here. But the football team has led to so many happy moments in my childhood that it’s hard to imagine that changing for the worse.
If I didn’t see them beat USC in 2003, then I probably wouldn’t be into football, and if not for that I would have never played. It’s been an amazing 20 years, and yes some of it has been downs, but I haven’t been happier than when I could catch a game on Saturday. My son started to cheer for them too. Little three year old doesn’t know what he’s doing, but it was something I could look forward to, watching games with my son.
Maybe everything will be fine in the end, maybe we will find a life raft, but it hurts to see the team and the fans I love not only get ripped apart by their contemporaries, but to basically see the admin not give a shit at all about all this. A statement. I’ll take ANYTHING. I’m sorry y’all, I’m in my feelings today, but other than my family there’s nothing I love more than Cal Football. It’s such a big part of my life it’s hard to imagine a future without cheering for the team I love. I know this may seem like melodrama to a lot of old blues, but I hate what’s been going on. I hate what tv producers have done to conferences. I hate what is happening to college football.
Thanks for listening. Maybe these feelings will go away if they find a way to get the deal. We can only hope so. As for me, I’ll be cheering for Cal until it goes under. But I won’t just accept mediocrity anymore. Go Bears, forever.
Yes to all this. I've got two little ones who proudly wear their Cal shirts on game days, and it's kind of heartbreaking to think about right now. Sad day.
Holy shit another non alumni fan. I thought I was the only one. My situation is slightly different in that I live in Eugene. The fact that the bears don’t get to play the Beavs or ducks every year will ruin a lot of the fun for me even if there is still a football team somewhere.
Yeah, me too. It is only through this crisis that I have met more. It is nice to see another Bart Alumni. I'm going to the UCLA game as it may very well be the last time I see Cal play for a while.
I think this is a perfect time to exude resilience. Humble pie is bitter. I don't like it. The B1G invite isn't coming. We all get to watch as the PAC looks at the WAC with sympathy. Remember all the griping back in the BCS days? We now know how the other cheek feels. We need to move on. Our egos can take a break while we hunt some new blood and we have a better chance to the playoff now. The better players will follow those who perform in the post season. Conference money isn't everything, ask Gonzaga. The teams chasing the TV money very well could end up a rich loser for decades to come while the culture could change against their fortunes. Yeah we won't get the money we want, but lets make the money we generate count. Sure, our AAU buddies fled at the first sign of trouble. True colors were shown, we need to chin up and move forward. Turns out academic and regional relationships were just a convenience.
So, no football schedule after this year. And every player is working to transfer. If something doesn't get worked out quickly, it's a death sentence.
My prediction:
1. Cal & Stanford get a Big 10 invite by Monday. Probably around $25 mil per year. That will cut the travel for West Coast schools.
2. Cal gets about $5-10 mil from UCLA as Calimony. That's still on like Donkey Kong
3. Knowlton announces he's resigning to 'spend more time with his family'. Between this and the scandals, his position is untenable.
4. Everything else is up for grabs. We could hire a FOOTBALL focused president and AD. Or we could be Cal and think the crisis is over.
I don’t know, it seems like the B1G got everything it wanted out of the Pac-12 corpse and has left the carcass for the scavengers.
No, Fox Sports got everything it wanted from the Pac-12 corpse and has left the carcass for scavengers.
TV is the driver. The university presidents are along for the ride.
5. AD buries his head in the sand.
Seriously though, I'm hoping for 1, but I feel like its getting further and further from the truth.
LJSJU put out a statement.
Fml!
NFL - B(rawndo) League will implode
Economies are moving towards regionalism; politics are moving towards hostile nationalism; the North Atlantic current has been identified by the IPCC as having a near certain likelihood of full collapse within 5 years; we have the highest inflation any of us have ever seen in our lifetimes and yet somehow a national conference is good in the future scenarios to the powers at be. Which begs the question. Why are they the powers at be?
Imho this what’s wrong with business these days. You have these fuctards making off the cuff decisions like it’s going out of style with absolutely zero accountability. It’s one thing to be risk neutral opposed to risk averse but that’s not what this is. This is a risk fetish.
If I took this strategy of fox, cbs, et al to my ceo and said “look I’ve done scenarios work on everything you asked in the contextual and tx environments and my plan is to consolidate and nationalize in the midst of what I have also identified as an impending tech transformations likely to supercharge economic regionalism”
He would pimp slap the shit out of me right before he called security.
That said fire Christ and Knowlton for cause before they become pension eligible.
Life sucks when nobody loves you....Sigh.......It really is unbelievable how many steps had to go wrong for us to reach this point or that we have so many clueless administrators (from the Pac-12 and Berkeley) that have gotten us here as well. The big question that I have is will the Mountain West even feel like paying us the paltry 5 million a year to join their league? We don't have the fan base or money to go independent so that isn't an option. What comes next? Extinction of most Cal Sports? Reduction to club level? Eventual invitation to the Big-10 at a bargain-basement price? It would be nice if Christ and Knowlton had SOMETHING, ANYTHING to say about all of this.
I'm going to keep it real, I read their statement and I almost preferred the silence. Readimg them say "We are not watching and waiting," and only getting that statement now is like when you get t-boned by a teenager and they walk out of their car and tell you "I wasn't on my phone."
Long live the Pac-4!
(Utah's out as well.) C'mon B1G, you know you want us.
Ouch, if this is true our B1G share will suck. Thought OU and UW would be worth about 2/3 share in the $40M range. This is structured like the Rutgers deal where you could prolong the payback by borrowing against your full membership in 6 years.
https://twitter.com/Matt_Fortuna/status/1687585734658592768?s=19
Still lots of room here on the Cal Quiddich bandwagon. Jump aboard.
Do you think we will ever hear anything at all from Knowlton and Christ?
Literally silence, not even a “blah blah blah we’re working on it” note. The silence is deafening and literally 50% or more of our student athletes are at risk of losing their sports in the next 12 months.
Stanford has put out a statement now. Are we sure Knowlton and Christ are even aware of what is happening?
Let's hope it's because Cal will end up in B1G and they already know it. Otherwise, lord help them.
I’m for a 2 team conference consisting of only Cal and Stanford.
Negligible travel expenses
Weakly Big Game beat downs
What’s not to like?
#2Pac2024
Just heard Knowlton landed us a home-and-home against De La Salle next year.
How much of an underdog are we?
It's worth the recruiting exposure
Potentially losing Cal sports, losing the A's, thank god I'm not a Raider fan. Really hope we can get a reduced rate Big 10 invite in the near future and let UCLA make up the difference. If ACC teams free up, the SEC may get involved, which could mean teams the Big 10 wants got to the SEC and their seat is available for Cal, but that may just be wishful thinking
You would think the spurned fans would go to cheer for the local college team
"Hearing now there is a possibility B12 could go to 18 and bring in ASU/Utah/WSU/ORSU all at reduced shares for the remainder of the new contract and give them full membership at the next contract. "
https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/1687563448098406400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1687563448098406400%7Ctwgr%5Ef8baba76f3c31f668baa5ae15abc11a5461d2af1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbearinsider.com%2Fforums%2F2%2Ftopics%2F115534%2F14
If that's a thing at all, we and Furd need to start talking to the Big 12 asap to see if we can get in on the same terms as those four schools. All things considered I think we bring as much or more as they do.
WSU and OSU should take it in a heartbeat.
Anyword yet if Pac-12 is going to try and put a new conference together around cal and Stanford. Start by inviting other AAU members in Rice and Tulane, keep Oregon /wash st of coarse. That’s 6. Add sdsu and smu. Maybe unlv and Colorado st to add some more markets. That 10 school group would be worth more than the mountain west.
It’s so depressing. Cal football has quite literally changed my life in so many positive ways. I didn’t go to Cal, so my experiences with cheering for the school aren’t the same as many here. But the football team has led to so many happy moments in my childhood that it’s hard to imagine that changing for the worse.
If I didn’t see them beat USC in 2003, then I probably wouldn’t be into football, and if not for that I would have never played. It’s been an amazing 20 years, and yes some of it has been downs, but I haven’t been happier than when I could catch a game on Saturday. My son started to cheer for them too. Little three year old doesn’t know what he’s doing, but it was something I could look forward to, watching games with my son.
Maybe everything will be fine in the end, maybe we will find a life raft, but it hurts to see the team and the fans I love not only get ripped apart by their contemporaries, but to basically see the admin not give a shit at all about all this. A statement. I’ll take ANYTHING. I’m sorry y’all, I’m in my feelings today, but other than my family there’s nothing I love more than Cal Football. It’s such a big part of my life it’s hard to imagine a future without cheering for the team I love. I know this may seem like melodrama to a lot of old blues, but I hate what’s been going on. I hate what tv producers have done to conferences. I hate what is happening to college football.
Thanks for listening. Maybe these feelings will go away if they find a way to get the deal. We can only hope so. As for me, I’ll be cheering for Cal until it goes under. But I won’t just accept mediocrity anymore. Go Bears, forever.
Yes to all this. I've got two little ones who proudly wear their Cal shirts on game days, and it's kind of heartbreaking to think about right now. Sad day.
You are true blue, sir. Hang in there.
Holy shit another non alumni fan. I thought I was the only one. My situation is slightly different in that I live in Eugene. The fact that the bears don’t get to play the Beavs or ducks every year will ruin a lot of the fun for me even if there is still a football team somewhere.
Yeah, me too. It is only through this crisis that I have met more. It is nice to see another Bart Alumni. I'm going to the UCLA game as it may very well be the last time I see Cal play for a while.
I have nothing to say or to suggest. I did spend $332 last night on Big Game tix, despite everything.