The Pac-12 is just 5-5 against the Mountain West. We've won two games against solid teams and three against terrible ones. The teams that have beaten Pac-12 teams all project to be pretty solid.
I agree with Cal at mostly an 8 slot. After beating the Huskies we'll probably move up to 5 or 6, though. Stanford's success is disconcerting, though Vandy is a bad team. Other than Stanford and Oregon all the teams we play look beatable, including UCLA.
I'm still expecting we yet again manage to play Oregon close somehow, Stanford will be close, and we get blown out by both USC (in a return to the norm) and UCLA (with their TE getting 200 yards).
Granted, UCLA being at the end of the year is always a wild card -- the main variable being have their players given up on the season by then?
Washington's 52-3 dismantling of Sunbelt conference Arkansas State was far more impressive than Cal's victory over an FCS Sac State team that clearly struggled in its two games prior to playing Cal. I view the Washington win as a statement game, whereas the Cal win had fans in an uproar over how a JC quarterback with almost no experience could dismantle Cal's secondary. So I would put Washington ahead of Cal in the rankings. I don't bet in general, and I would never bet against my team, but that 7-point spread in Seattle seems light to me.
Not to mention, the Arkansas State game brought up a painful blast from the past.. "the first time a Pac-12 player has surpassed 150 receiving yards in a first half since John Ross accomplished that feat against Cal in 2016." Bad omen?
That reminds me of a line from Seinfeld when Jerry said to George, "I thought you didn't believe in God." George answered, "I do for the bad things." So yes, I feel like some omens are coming our way as Cal fans.
Washington absolutely had a better last week, but I'm not ready to complete absolve them of their home FCS loss. They have a lot of potential for growth, but it takes me personally a minute to recognize that.
Some years, for example early Tedford, I root for P12 teams to do well, for conference pride, better rankings and better bowl games. If we’re contending for New Years bowl games, playoffs, BCS, etc. then it’s critical that the conference be strong.
This is not one of those years. Best thing for us is for everyone including Oregon to be garbage, and to stumble our way to winning a championship in a crappy conference, like furd under willingham.
The Pac-12 is just 5-5 against the Mountain West. We've won two games against solid teams and three against terrible ones. The teams that have beaten Pac-12 teams all project to be pretty solid.
Oregon over Fresno St.
USC over SJSU
UCLA over Hawaii
Oregon St. over Hawaii
ASU over UNLV
Fresno St. beat UCLA
SDSU beat Utah
SDSU beat Arizona
Nevada beat Cal
Utah St. beat Wazzu
5-8. You left out Week 3:
L UCLA-Fresno State
L ASU-BYU
L Utah-SDSU
He listed the UCLA and Utah losses, and BYU is an indie.
oh, either way theyre missing 3 (there were 13 games, not 10) i just assumed it was the last 3..
Week 0:
W UCLA-Hawaii
Week 1:
W Oregon-Fresno State
W USC-San Jose State
L Arizona-BYU
L Cal-Nevada
L Wazzu-Utah State
Week 2:
L Utah-BYU
W ASU-UNLV
L Arizona-SDSU
W Oregon State-Hawaii
Week 3:
L UCLA-Fresno State
L ASU-BYU
L Utah-SDSU
oh BYU independent! I forgot about that. nevermind!!!
It's what I had originally. I grouped them by (in my opinion) best to worst wins and then losses.
The less said about BYU, the better!
I agree with Cal at mostly an 8 slot. After beating the Huskies we'll probably move up to 5 or 6, though. Stanford's success is disconcerting, though Vandy is a bad team. Other than Stanford and Oregon all the teams we play look beatable, including UCLA.
I'm still expecting we yet again manage to play Oregon close somehow, Stanford will be close, and we get blown out by both USC (in a return to the norm) and UCLA (with their TE getting 200 yards).
Granted, UCLA being at the end of the year is always a wild card -- the main variable being have their players given up on the season by then?
Washington's 52-3 dismantling of Sunbelt conference Arkansas State was far more impressive than Cal's victory over an FCS Sac State team that clearly struggled in its two games prior to playing Cal. I view the Washington win as a statement game, whereas the Cal win had fans in an uproar over how a JC quarterback with almost no experience could dismantle Cal's secondary. So I would put Washington ahead of Cal in the rankings. I don't bet in general, and I would never bet against my team, but that 7-point spread in Seattle seems light to me.
Not to mention, the Arkansas State game brought up a painful blast from the past.. "the first time a Pac-12 player has surpassed 150 receiving yards in a first half since John Ross accomplished that feat against Cal in 2016." Bad omen?
That reminds me of a line from Seinfeld when Jerry said to George, "I thought you didn't believe in God." George answered, "I do for the bad things." So yes, I feel like some omens are coming our way as Cal fans.
Love me some Costanza
Washington absolutely had a better last week, but I'm not ready to complete absolve them of their home FCS loss. They have a lot of potential for growth, but it takes me personally a minute to recognize that.
Let's hope your recognition for the Huskies does not happen about 10 p.m. on Saturday, or gasp, by halftime.
mine, before looking:
1. Oregon.
(gap)
1a. BYU. They're 3-0 in conference!
(gap)
2. UCLA. Even with the Fresno loss, they still have a better resume than any other non-Ducks.
(gap)
3. Furd. That's two good road wins, and the K-State loss doesn't look as bad now.
4. ASU. Hung with BYU most of the way at BYU.
5. Utah. Tough loss at SDSU. Like ASU, don't have a good win or a bad loss yet.
6. SC. Always the chaos team. Turned it around after a slow start at Wazzu.
7. Oregon State. They don't have a good win or a bad loss either.
8. Washington. Should move up later, but they still lost to Montana and got rolled by Michigan.
(gap)
9. Cal. Let's hope the pass non-defense against Sac St was a bad day, not a new normal.
10. Wazzu. Have they done anything well this year?
11. Arizona. Losing at home to NAU? Offense is pathetic.
12. Colorado. 30-0 at home to Minnesota? This could be a historically bad offense.
Some years, for example early Tedford, I root for P12 teams to do well, for conference pride, better rankings and better bowl games. If we’re contending for New Years bowl games, playoffs, BCS, etc. then it’s critical that the conference be strong.
This is not one of those years. Best thing for us is for everyone including Oregon to be garbage, and to stumble our way to winning a championship in a crappy conference, like furd under willingham.