Of course this pitch has been made to the BIG10, it has to have been. Either it’s being discussed and maybe we get a good surprise or the league has already said no
I wonder the same because it would make way more sense geographically to have Cal and Stanford join a western division of the Big Ten than to be the lone western teams in the ACC. It just feels like the BigTen’s position of “we want to keep it at 18 teams and not 20” is a BS negotiating ploy. What is the difference between having 18 or 20? All they really care about are the splits of media revenue
Logistically, 20 would certainly be better than 18. It really is about Fox having a fixed media payout and no one wanting to make their own shares smaller.
But if Stanford and Cal really are offering a highly reduced payout package for the initial years (which they will fund through their own donors) then that might change the calculation.
I still don’t get this. Makes zero sense to me that Stanford/Cal would just close this door for no good reason. There are only three doors! (BigTen, Big12, ACC) Why shut out one of the only three possibilities that keeps us from relegation????
That’s why there’s so little noise about the Bay Area’s to the B12. From what I’ve been told, Furd thinks they’re better than a Texas-centric conference, and the Cal academic community may share this belief.
Stanford has one of the better athletic departments in the country and a 30 billion dollar endowment, they have a right to think they have some options.
sorry, I'm still in a bad mood over all of this. I am a Golden Bear but have an intense dislike for the snobbery that comes with the campus and Bay Area. It's a big factor contributing to where Cal is now.
I completely agree, p. I’ve got 45 years of Cal fandom in me and am incredibly salty. So tough to stay positive…but that’s why when I see trolls come on WFC simply to talk smack I have no problem engaging.
If Stanford cuts us lose and goes their own way we are truly f’ed.
Our ONLY leverage is the bay area is one of the largest markets in the country. Stanford can bring that along with their private school money alone if they choose too.
Cal & Stanford should be making this pitch to the Big 10, not the ACC.
Of course this pitch has been made to the BIG10, it has to have been. Either it’s being discussed and maybe we get a good surprise or the league has already said no
they should be making it to everyone, and continuing to try to move the P18 forward. The worst thing to do is put all effort and hope into one option.
I kind of wonder if they are, and the ACC thing is a bit of a feint.
I wonder the same because it would make way more sense geographically to have Cal and Stanford join a western division of the Big Ten than to be the lone western teams in the ACC. It just feels like the BigTen’s position of “we want to keep it at 18 teams and not 20” is a BS negotiating ploy. What is the difference between having 18 or 20? All they really care about are the splits of media revenue
Logistically, 20 would certainly be better than 18. It really is about Fox having a fixed media payout and no one wanting to make their own shares smaller.
But if Stanford and Cal really are offering a highly reduced payout package for the initial years (which they will fund through their own donors) then that might change the calculation.
Or the Big 12
We’ll see, but Stanford is pulling their elitist card and is reportedly a hard NO to join the Big 12, so that’s unlikely to happen.
Good ol "furd". Thinking they are better than any one else .
I still don’t get this. Makes zero sense to me that Stanford/Cal would just close this door for no good reason. There are only three doors! (BigTen, Big12, ACC) Why shut out one of the only three possibilities that keeps us from relegation????
That's because we're thinking practically, while Cal pays top leaders to think abstractly. 🤓
Good ol Ford, thinking they're better than any one else. I know, Il have a grandson on their track team.
That’s why there’s so little noise about the Bay Area’s to the B12. From what I’ve been told, Furd thinks they’re better than a Texas-centric conference, and the Cal academic community may share this belief.
Stanford has one of the better athletic departments in the country and a 30 billion dollar endowment, they have a right to think they have some options.
Cal on the other hand…
They don't have THE AXE!!
’Furd may think they have options, though with what we know of this latest bit of realignment, they may not.
...may?
That’s fair.
sorry, I'm still in a bad mood over all of this. I am a Golden Bear but have an intense dislike for the snobbery that comes with the campus and Bay Area. It's a big factor contributing to where Cal is now.
I completely agree, p. I’ve got 45 years of Cal fandom in me and am incredibly salty. So tough to stay positive…but that’s why when I see trolls come on WFC simply to talk smack I have no problem engaging.
Seems that it's more like Furd is a hard no on the B12, and Cal's best chance is to keep themselves tied to Furd.
If Stanford cuts us lose and goes their own way we are truly f’ed.
Our ONLY leverage is the bay area is one of the largest markets in the country. Stanford can bring that along with their private school money alone if they choose too.
Sure, but for now there’s no evidence they want to split from Cal.
And whether that pays dividends remains to be seen.