Meh. I'd be worried if he were at Colorado or Oregon State or something. Where he's going, the people that respond to his type of recruiting aren't going to Cal anyway. The only problem I see is his potential to get top recruits off of top 10 programs. We need more 4* recruits, to be sure, but his focus will be on national 5* recruits.
Because before he was young and a rising star in the coaching world. He worked for a hot coach in Jeff Tedford and then Nick Saban at Bama. Now he is older. He is no longer a rising star. If he failed as a DC at Bama with all their talent, I don't see him successful at Oregon. Basically, his star has fallen. He's older and yesterday's news. And unless he knows how to land big NIL contracts for his recruits, the cup is worthless. Plus, for parents of recruits Tosh has a tarnished image. He certainly does not shine as an example of integrity. He's been a do whatever it takes kind of guy, fuck the rules. If it works its great for his career. But those kind of people shit on other people who they can't use. Fuck him. If our coaches can't sell off his shitty track record to get recruits then our coaches can't recruit. And, I believe our coaches can recruit just fine. Tosh's loss, but all he can do is blame himself and his own choices.
Not that it won't help, but feels like a fairly redundant move: adding a co-defensive coordinator to a team whose head coach will likely be the real defensive coordinator. As a recruiter, he's joining a staff and program that's already heavily stocked. He'll help them, but I don't think this adds too much of an advantage that wasn't already there.
It's really kind of sad. I grew up in Walnut Creek, where his family had owned Lupoi Market, which was a fixture in the community for a couple of generations. That Tosh attended DLS, went to Cal and had become a prominent contributor to the staff was kind of storybook stuff. Unfortunately, the betrayal of his community and of basic human values was also its own sort of Shakespearean storybook tale.
Great news! For us anyway. After being a position coach for Nick Saban he was given the chance to be DC at Bama....and fell on his face. He lasted one season, had one of Bama's worst defenses in recent memory and Nick politely told him it was time to move on. Musgrave will be his Yoda and the Force always beats the Dark Side.
That “ co-coordinator “ thing just provides a more prestigious label/salary. If they wanted him as a coordinator there wouldn’t be the “co” part. It’s just recruiting.
Good shit both ways. Love the enthusiam and the back and forth. The cell phone flashlight idea is pretty damn good. I agree and think the You See Berkeley is garbage. General outreach to different groups while rather obvious cannot be overlooked like it has been. The best combo idea by far is the embrace the angry oski along with professor interactions as it reverberates an identity across Cal as an institution and team, I live for that shit especially when I was in high school. You have to make the people inside care before the outside does.
Nice response. Hopefully he gets it. My impression is that marketing is cash-strapped for the most part and ineffectual. Getting new donors via new channels other than the traditional begging letters, emails, and phone calls also could be important. My idea expressed in another thread is to integrate the donation options with the academic fundraising so folks could check a box and donate to Cal athletics while they are checking a box to give $100, $200, or another amount to L&S Leadership Fund, Doe Library Fund, and so forth. Even $10 or $20 would be helpful. Given that Cal generated $1 billion in donations in 2020, even a fraction of this amount would be helpful.
Of the 13 Cal players on the list, 8 of them became starters and the other 5 barely ever played. I'm not sure if that's a decent percentage or if it should be higher.
Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop hating Tosh Lupoi!
Prediction: Oregon fans will have a different opinion of faking injuries on defense to slow tempo than they did in 2010.
The rules on recruiting have changed with NIL legislation on the books.
Money in a coffee cup is so unnecessary now.
Meh. I'd be worried if he were at Colorado or Oregon State or something. Where he's going, the people that respond to his type of recruiting aren't going to Cal anyway. The only problem I see is his potential to get top recruits off of top 10 programs. We need more 4* recruits, to be sure, but his focus will be on national 5* recruits.
Those recruits responded and came to Cal while Tosh was here.
I doubt it. I think his best days are behind him.
Why do you say that?
Because before he was young and a rising star in the coaching world. He worked for a hot coach in Jeff Tedford and then Nick Saban at Bama. Now he is older. He is no longer a rising star. If he failed as a DC at Bama with all their talent, I don't see him successful at Oregon. Basically, his star has fallen. He's older and yesterday's news. And unless he knows how to land big NIL contracts for his recruits, the cup is worthless. Plus, for parents of recruits Tosh has a tarnished image. He certainly does not shine as an example of integrity. He's been a do whatever it takes kind of guy, fuck the rules. If it works its great for his career. But those kind of people shit on other people who they can't use. Fuck him. If our coaches can't sell off his shitty track record to get recruits then our coaches can't recruit. And, I believe our coaches can recruit just fine. Tosh's loss, but all he can do is blame himself and his own choices.
Not that it won't help, but feels like a fairly redundant move: adding a co-defensive coordinator to a team whose head coach will likely be the real defensive coordinator. As a recruiter, he's joining a staff and program that's already heavily stocked. He'll help them, but I don't think this adds too much of an advantage that wasn't already there.
They already have Tim DeRuyter, who is a damn good DC. My guess is that Tosh wanted the title for the hire.
I gotta stop hating him; takes too much energy and just frustrates the hell out of me……prick….. Maybe I’ll stop tomorrow……
It's really kind of sad. I grew up in Walnut Creek, where his family had owned Lupoi Market, which was a fixture in the community for a couple of generations. That Tosh attended DLS, went to Cal and had become a prominent contributor to the staff was kind of storybook stuff. Unfortunately, the betrayal of his community and of basic human values was also its own sort of Shakespearean storybook tale.
I hope he gets shingles...if he’s had chicken pox, the virus is already growing inside his body....just saying...
Great news! For us anyway. After being a position coach for Nick Saban he was given the chance to be DC at Bama....and fell on his face. He lasted one season, had one of Bama's worst defenses in recent memory and Nick politely told him it was time to move on. Musgrave will be his Yoda and the Force always beats the Dark Side.
the bad news is his HC is a pretty good DC anyway...
Is Mettauer playing tonight for Oklahoma?
Lupoi is a scurvy lying POS. Saban couldn't trust his game calling abilities so he's perfect for screwing up Oregon. F Lupoi
I knew he would go to Oregon. Hopefully everyone learns what a scumbag he is and we can trounce Oregon
That “ co-coordinator “ thing just provides a more prestigious label/salary. If they wanted him as a coordinator there wouldn’t be the “co” part. It’s just recruiting.
Absolutely. Lanning is basically the defacto defensive coordinator. All Lupoi would need to do is bring in the five stars
Eh, he used to be a recruiter. But now is a discredited bozo. I’m not too worried
Oy!
Well you can't leave us hanging spill the tea!
Of course no one calls them UC Madison.
Good shit both ways. Love the enthusiam and the back and forth. The cell phone flashlight idea is pretty damn good. I agree and think the You See Berkeley is garbage. General outreach to different groups while rather obvious cannot be overlooked like it has been. The best combo idea by far is the embrace the angry oski along with professor interactions as it reverberates an identity across Cal as an institution and team, I live for that shit especially when I was in high school. You have to make the people inside care before the outside does.
Nice response. Hopefully he gets it. My impression is that marketing is cash-strapped for the most part and ineffectual. Getting new donors via new channels other than the traditional begging letters, emails, and phone calls also could be important. My idea expressed in another thread is to integrate the donation options with the academic fundraising so folks could check a box and donate to Cal athletics while they are checking a box to give $100, $200, or another amount to L&S Leadership Fund, Doe Library Fund, and so forth. Even $10 or $20 would be helpful. Given that Cal generated $1 billion in donations in 2020, even a fraction of this amount would be helpful.
You emailed AD not to hire Tosh?
There were MANY of us that did
Of the 13 Cal players on the list, 8 of them became starters and the other 5 barely ever played. I'm not sure if that's a decent percentage or if it should be higher.
This is too depressing