My upstairs neighbors are only here sporadically as they still teach at IU. The husband is taking the semester off so is currently here. Not sure if he cares about athletics.
We already knew Oregon's roster was superior in every way to Oregon State's, but that was re-confirmed. Oregon did the same thing to Oregon State that Oregon State did to SD State last week. Play a competitive game into the 3rd qtr, and then have the roster advantages turn the game into a runaway that doesn't resemble the first ~2/3 of the game.
We learned that these Cougs aren't going to Coug It; the Apple Cup was the anthesis of Couging It. And during that goal line stand, that phrase crossed everyone's mind.
Does anyone know why the game today was scheduled 730pm ???? It is nice that we are ESPN but, We are only 1 of 2 games tonight. Who will be watching this game outside of our time or even out the Bay Area and San Diego
It's scheduled for that time because ESPN wants a game in the late window, and with the Pac-12 broken up they have limited options. It also makes sense, since this is a matchup of two west coast teams.
You'd also be surprised about ratings. People just leave ESPN on late into the night. Bars will have it on their TV screens. Last week the game in this window was Mississippi St. vs. Arizona St., and it drew 954k viewers.
ESPN doesn't have rights to either of those games. The remaining Pac-2 sold their rights to the CW, plus a couple of games on Fox. The B1G has contracts with Fox, NBC, and CBS, not with ESPN.
ESPN has the SEC (no west coast teams), ACC, and Big 12, plus the G5 conferences besides the Mountain West. That means their options for showing late games are basically: home games for Cal, Stanford, Arizona, ASU, Utah, Colorado, BYU, and New Mexico State. Maybe UTEP too (I think they're on Mountain Time). Out of those teams? Only Cal has a home game today. So they picked our game to fill that spot.
Yes, the new PAC -12 conference probably will not know what kind of TV money it would get at this point. Right now Cal and Stanford are only getting 30 percent of a slice for the next 3-5 years. That is like ordering a slice with everything on it and just get a cheese slice with some pepperoni. Yes, that is a nice slice but, not like getting everything you ordered and deserve on your pie. They maybe relevant so far but not respected. I get the ACC network and I admit I don't watch every single day. They barely get any coverage. If they get 2 minutes of coverage it seems alot. ESPN on last week victory over Auburn barely mentioned the victory.
I know this isn't the thread to bring this up. But, who out there thinks Cal and Stanford should go back to the Pac-12 in 2026. They shouldn't have left in the first place. They should have stuck it out with Oregon St. And Washington St. I realize they left to have some revenue from the ACC. But, now that the Pac-12 will have 4 new teams with them returning will give the Pac12 8 teams. This would cut a ton of expenses with travel for all sports and be part of becoming a new part of a Power 5 conference. I don't know what other ramifications this would cause but, I believe it will be beneficial long term .
The Pac-12 now is a glorified cover band. Call it something different. It's like the group out there calling itself Lynyrd Skynyrd simply because the org held the name rights. Yes; the NW state schools are the connective link. But not much stronger than Ronnie van Zant's brother is the singer of the band, and that's it.
The thing is, though, SDSU, Boise State and Fresno State and CSU are decent backup singers. Boise State alone has done more winning in the larger college football sphere than Cal, by far, over the past twenty years. And they have beaten Oregon with regularity. Sure, you’re correct it will not be the PAC-12 I grew up with, but this is not the world I grew up with.
I’ll say. What a pie in the face it will be though when PAC-12 Conferense gets a media deal that pays its members twice what Cal’s getting for these first six years of its ACC deal.
Like OSU and and Wazzu, Cal is digging deep to build our brand to adapt to the changing landscaping of college football. The status of a conference effects most everything that builds a brand, including recruiting, marketing, and team self-image.
The ACC was a port in the storm and our best choice given the alternative of the long haul of rebuilding the PAC 12. I believe there was a strong case made for including OSU and Wazzu in the ACC, but that was not "doable" at the time.
In fact, the P12 rebuild is OSU and Wazzu's due diligence to keep going, not leaving the P12 money on the table, and keeping a high idle until they, too, can get into a "power conference." The New P12 might be considered a "power conference" at some time in 5-10 years, but if the opportunity comes, OSU and Wazzu would and will jump at the chance to be in the ACC, the Big 12, the B!G, and/or whatever Super-Uber conferences evolve.
No one, here, is slighting or relegating OSU or Wazzu, but the last straw was Oregon and Washington leaving, which tipped over the Corners schools (Utah, Az, ASU, and Colorado). The Titanic (the Pac12) hit an iceberg, which $C deliberately steered us into. The ACC was a rescue that suited our needs. Every school was scrambling for the same, but OSU and Wazzu, despite have strong football programs, were not attractive enough of TV markets for the power conferences. It's up to OSU and Wazzu to shine light on the reality of the power conferences' mistake(s) in passing them by. We can all thank $C for selling us all short and whispering such slurs into the ears of a media eager to capitalize on the LA market and fracture the Power conference (P12) that was daring to defy the control of the big media. Larry Scott f'ed things up, but he might be more of a hero than we presently realize.
We, survivors can hate each other or reserve our hate the core causes of our plight(s).
This would make sense for every sport except football, which at this point should just be its own beast without impact every other sport’s conference alignment.
At this point, Cal has more relevance in the ACC than it would in a Mountain West with PAC-12 branding. U$c and fUCLA destroyed the conference. It’s irreparable at this point. Within the next 5 years the media interests will devise a super conference that likely has regional divisions or something. Cal’s travel expenses in the ACC pale in comparison to the conference money they get. I feel bad for Wazzu and OSU but I also don’t want Cal lowering itself and taking a bad deal to pretend the Pac 12 still exists. Call it the All Coast Conference. Fixed. 😉
Yeah; something like this. Not sure if it will be a super conference, but the media deals will implode or evolve and things will get adjusted. It really feels like the NCAA should solve football, and without that anchor other sports can follow a more logical conference solution (again) - and hopefully some version of the old Pac 8/10/12 is rekindled.
I mean something like the Notre Dame model. A rational conference solution for all non-football sports, so something returns like the Pac for Cal. For football it's whatever solution gets worked and in the best interests of Cal.
Rejoining the PAC whatever it will makes a lot of sense in so many ways, but how does the money shake out? Plus the ACC agreement apparently wouldn’t let Cal out until 2036! That’s why some of the ACC teams are squirming to get out- it’s a LONG term deal.
I was hoping they'd win this because it just feels too typiCAL that we'd give them their first win. Granted this ain't the same old Cal anymore, I hope! Also FSU players might just give up on the season after this. Deion Sanders to FSU next year, anyone?
Thanks for the list of all the games this weekend to watch.BUT, all times should be PDT. We are still on daylight savings time until early November. The actual time listed are correct in watching any of the games... Go Bears !!!!!! Let's make it 3-0
Akron QB Ben Finley threw for 358 yds and four TD’s yesterday in the Zips’ come from behind victory.
UCLA trails Indiana 35-13 at the Rose Bowl.
My upstairs neighbors are only here sporadically as they still teach at IU. The husband is taking the semester off so is currently here. Not sure if he cares about athletics.
Sam Jackson just made a big reception as Auburn plays New Mexico.
Auburn's Freshman QB is killin' it.
And Auburn just intercepted NM. ...which eventually led to a TD.
Did we learn more about Washington or WSU from the Apple Cup? Did we learn more about Oregon or OSU from the Civil War?
We already knew Oregon's roster was superior in every way to Oregon State's, but that was re-confirmed. Oregon did the same thing to Oregon State that Oregon State did to SD State last week. Play a competitive game into the 3rd qtr, and then have the roster advantages turn the game into a runaway that doesn't resemble the first ~2/3 of the game.
We learned that these Cougs aren't going to Coug It; the Apple Cup was the anthesis of Couging It. And during that goal line stand, that phrase crossed everyone's mind.
Congratulations to Washington State beating one the team's that truly abandoned the PAC 12.
To bad OSU could not do the same.
See u guys tonight for the Bears game
Does anyone know why the game today was scheduled 730pm ???? It is nice that we are ESPN but, We are only 1 of 2 games tonight. Who will be watching this game outside of our time or even out the Bay Area and San Diego
It's scheduled for that time because ESPN wants a game in the late window, and with the Pac-12 broken up they have limited options. It also makes sense, since this is a matchup of two west coast teams.
You'd also be surprised about ratings. People just leave ESPN on late into the night. Bars will have it on their TV screens. Last week the game in this window was Mississippi St. vs. Arizona St., and it drew 954k viewers.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/
Even with limited options . I don't know they have the TV rights but, the Civil War or the Apple Cup games would probably draw more appeal .
ESPN doesn't have rights to either of those games. The remaining Pac-2 sold their rights to the CW, plus a couple of games on Fox. The B1G has contracts with Fox, NBC, and CBS, not with ESPN.
ESPN has the SEC (no west coast teams), ACC, and Big 12, plus the G5 conferences besides the Mountain West. That means their options for showing late games are basically: home games for Cal, Stanford, Arizona, ASU, Utah, Colorado, BYU, and New Mexico State. Maybe UTEP too (I think they're on Mountain Time). Out of those teams? Only Cal has a home game today. So they picked our game to fill that spot.
Yes , I am surprised. But, still had a SEC team that can draw fans to watch all over the South where they are crazy about college FB no matter what.
Memphis Wins !!!! I know it is weeks a way but, can CAL be just as physical.
Not weeks away, but next week.
I am sorry . You are correct.. Well we better be prepared because FSU will be out to prove not as bad as they look right now
Don't know about that. Locker room seems to have collapsed after todays game.
Down goes FSU (again). Can't imagine the student body will be enthused for next week.
Bottom feeders
Missed FG .. FSU has a chance to tie with a drive
WOW!!!! It looks like FSU is about to go down again.
Yes, the new PAC -12 conference probably will not know what kind of TV money it would get at this point. Right now Cal and Stanford are only getting 30 percent of a slice for the next 3-5 years. That is like ordering a slice with everything on it and just get a cheese slice with some pepperoni. Yes, that is a nice slice but, not like getting everything you ordered and deserve on your pie. They maybe relevant so far but not respected. I get the ACC network and I admit I don't watch every single day. They barely get any coverage. If they get 2 minutes of coverage it seems alot. ESPN on last week victory over Auburn barely mentioned the victory.
FSU on track for just over 200 yards of offense
Right now they putting a helluva drive
I know this isn't the thread to bring this up. But, who out there thinks Cal and Stanford should go back to the Pac-12 in 2026. They shouldn't have left in the first place. They should have stuck it out with Oregon St. And Washington St. I realize they left to have some revenue from the ACC. But, now that the Pac-12 will have 4 new teams with them returning will give the Pac12 8 teams. This would cut a ton of expenses with travel for all sports and be part of becoming a new part of a Power 5 conference. I don't know what other ramifications this would cause but, I believe it will be beneficial long term .
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Are you the new Bob?
Speaking of which - where is Bob? Does he need a wellness check?
He's been kicked off for repeated violations. I wonder if he found a new forum to express his ideas.
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No
The Pac-12 now is a glorified cover band. Call it something different. It's like the group out there calling itself Lynyrd Skynyrd simply because the org held the name rights. Yes; the NW state schools are the connective link. But not much stronger than Ronnie van Zant's brother is the singer of the band, and that's it.
The thing is, though, SDSU, Boise State and Fresno State and CSU are decent backup singers. Boise State alone has done more winning in the larger college football sphere than Cal, by far, over the past twenty years. And they have beaten Oregon with regularity. Sure, you’re correct it will not be the PAC-12 I grew up with, but this is not the world I grew up with.
It was Power conference status more than $.
I’ll say. What a pie in the face it will be though when PAC-12 Conferense gets a media deal that pays its members twice what Cal’s getting for these first six years of its ACC deal.
The New P12 will still not be a P5.
Like OSU and and Wazzu, Cal is digging deep to build our brand to adapt to the changing landscaping of college football. The status of a conference effects most everything that builds a brand, including recruiting, marketing, and team self-image.
The ACC was a port in the storm and our best choice given the alternative of the long haul of rebuilding the PAC 12. I believe there was a strong case made for including OSU and Wazzu in the ACC, but that was not "doable" at the time.
In fact, the P12 rebuild is OSU and Wazzu's due diligence to keep going, not leaving the P12 money on the table, and keeping a high idle until they, too, can get into a "power conference." The New P12 might be considered a "power conference" at some time in 5-10 years, but if the opportunity comes, OSU and Wazzu would and will jump at the chance to be in the ACC, the Big 12, the B!G, and/or whatever Super-Uber conferences evolve.
No one, here, is slighting or relegating OSU or Wazzu, but the last straw was Oregon and Washington leaving, which tipped over the Corners schools (Utah, Az, ASU, and Colorado). The Titanic (the Pac12) hit an iceberg, which $C deliberately steered us into. The ACC was a rescue that suited our needs. Every school was scrambling for the same, but OSU and Wazzu, despite have strong football programs, were not attractive enough of TV markets for the power conferences. It's up to OSU and Wazzu to shine light on the reality of the power conferences' mistake(s) in passing them by. We can all thank $C for selling us all short and whispering such slurs into the ears of a media eager to capitalize on the LA market and fracture the Power conference (P12) that was daring to defy the control of the big media. Larry Scott f'ed things up, but he might be more of a hero than we presently realize.
We, survivors can hate each other or reserve our hate the core causes of our plight(s).
This would make sense for every sport except football, which at this point should just be its own beast without impact every other sport’s conference alignment.
At this point, Cal has more relevance in the ACC than it would in a Mountain West with PAC-12 branding. U$c and fUCLA destroyed the conference. It’s irreparable at this point. Within the next 5 years the media interests will devise a super conference that likely has regional divisions or something. Cal’s travel expenses in the ACC pale in comparison to the conference money they get. I feel bad for Wazzu and OSU but I also don’t want Cal lowering itself and taking a bad deal to pretend the Pac 12 still exists. Call it the All Coast Conference. Fixed. 😉
Yeah; something like this. Not sure if it will be a super conference, but the media deals will implode or evolve and things will get adjusted. It really feels like the NCAA should solve football, and without that anchor other sports can follow a more logical conference solution (again) - and hopefully some version of the old Pac 8/10/12 is rekindled.
I don’t miss the PAC 12.
We were too comfortable with mediocrity and being passed up by our cupcakes of years gone by.
Our focus, wherever we are, is to win, win, win, so we have relevance in whatever “Super Conference “ evolves.
I mean something like the Notre Dame model. A rational conference solution for all non-football sports, so something returns like the Pac for Cal. For football it's whatever solution gets worked and in the best interests of Cal.
I like it. PAC 12, except for FB. ACC would have to disintegrate, much like the P12.
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Rejoining the PAC whatever it will makes a lot of sense in so many ways, but how does the money shake out? Plus the ACC agreement apparently wouldn’t let Cal out until 2036! That’s why some of the ACC teams are squirming to get out- it’s a LONG term deal.
Looks like week 3 isn’t when FSU gets its groove back. They look bad. They can can go ahead and skip next week and circle week 5 for improvement.
I was hoping they'd win this because it just feels too typiCAL that we'd give them their first win. Granted this ain't the same old Cal anymore, I hope! Also FSU players might just give up on the season after this. Deion Sanders to FSU next year, anyone?
Okay, when we hear the $C-like Tomahawk chop of FSU, we need to train our minds to hear:
“Go o Cal Bears,
Go o Cal Bears,
Cal Bears Go.”
Memphis
This is the way.
I'm hoping Auburn looks great against UNM. That might signal good things for CAL.
Hank Brown will be the starting
QB. Should be interesting.
Power 5 (4) goes down. Turned on Tv while getting ready for bed and see UNLV take down Kansas.
Yeah, that was nice to see. Rebs should get an invite to PAC-12 down the road.
Agreed. It would mean Nevada, too, but Nevada is rebuilding strong.
It would be cool, but the two schools very much aren't tied together. Nevada didn't get added to the MWC until 2012.
Oh, I had heard the were a #MeToo package. In that case, just UNLV, which also brings Basketball.
Fifita throws an int. Wow.
Thanks for the list of all the games this weekend to watch.BUT, all times should be PDT. We are still on daylight savings time until early November. The actual time listed are correct in watching any of the games... Go Bears !!!!!! Let's make it 3-0
Bob R is posting this morning on Bear Insider, this might be premature.
Well, I hope he was able to read all the nice things we said about him. I must have mixed up my information from Big C.
I'll leave this here for a day or two then take it off, I guess.
RIP Bob R/GB49. You enlivened our lives.
Are you serious? That is a very sad news.
Sad, indeed.
That's very sad to hear. Here's to GB49. Go Bears.
Go Bears, Bob R.