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Joseph Kim's avatar

Well guys, if Wilcox is gonna commit to Cal like this, as fans, we gotta commit to our coach and get behind him. Wilcox quite possibly the highest character coach in all of CFB, that's something to be proud of and he never lost the team despite massive adversity. No more talk of Troy Taylor from me, Wilcox is our guy.

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PawlOski's avatar

Can we talk about Troy Taylor for OC tho?

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KetamineCal's avatar

Maybe if Musgrave leaves and Taylor hasn't found a FBS head coaching gig yet.

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Rugbear's avatar

You really like Troy Taylor! :-) I don't think Musgrave is going anywhere.

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KetamineCal's avatar

Sacramento does things to a man.

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Rugbear's avatar

Troy Taylor would have been a great hire, but we have Musgrave, who was an excellent hire. And, we don't want to hire a 3rd OC in 5 years if we can help it.

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PawlOski's avatar

My problem with Musgrave is that his strategy has at times been counterintuitive and cost us games.

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Rugbear's avatar

His schemes or our execution?

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diasfordays's avatar

Por que no los dos?

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Rugbear's avatar

sobre todo nuestra ejecuci├│n

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Rollah's avatar

Musgrave an 'excellent' hire?!

Are we seeing the same empty backfield on 3rd (or even 4th) down & short yardage to go?

3 pts vs. fcking AZ costing Cal a chance to go bowling, I can never equate Musgrave with excellent. Sorry for grading so harshly, maybe if he'd fallen on the sword after that game, then he might've risen to the level of 'meh' (like his boss).

PS, you're still the best, Rug, & the only reason I open these posts. Peace.

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Rugbear's avatar

Do you know what's in his playbook? Do you know why he gives those looks? Do you know how he schemes? The guy is solid, but no one is perfect. Btw, we didn't lose this year because of his schemes and or play calling, we lost because of piss poor execution when we faced speedy d-linemen. Most of our losses start and end with poor O-line play in those situations. AZ loss was even more magnified because of the poor play of the backup QB. Peace to you as well my Golden Bear Bro.

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Rollah's avatar

Obviously not (objection: leading question).

I don't know much, just that I don't see excellence when I look at Musgrave -- judging by results, he's a career has-been/never was. Maybe I'm equating excellence with perfection, which is admittedly unfair. If I'm equating it w/ excitement, than I absolutely stand by my comments.

I can't help but think of the line from Hoosiers (nod to Jimmy Chitwood if he's still reading this entire thread) when Chelcie Ross' character George tells Gene Hackman, "Cletus musta owed you somethin' fierce to drag your old bones out here'. Something like that; he's not innovative, his offenses don't dominate, and he bounces around for how many years now... current stop: Cal. Next stop: ???

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Rugbear's avatar

Musgrave has been a turnaround specialist. He's taken a number of basement NFL teams and put them in the middle of the NFL within a few years. I think he's a bright coordinator and solid for smart kids like at CAL. There are plenty of OC's who have bounced around. Try and hire a pro OC on CAL's salary allowance. Or, try and get a good college OC to CAL on our salary allowance. Wilcox got Musgrave to come to CAL for the love of the game. Now that Wilcox has negotiated for higher salaries for assistants he should be able to attract better quality assistants. All positives.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

So, I have sometimes wondered if Wilcox neuters his OC, as his generally risk-averse philosophy is the common denominator with both Baldwin and Musgrave...

Another common denominator, though, is the inconsistent play of the offensive line...tho I've never met him, I consider Rugbear to be my OL Consigliere, and he has referenced that OL coaching may leave more than just a little to be desired...

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Joseph Kim's avatar

I like the taste of your Kool-aid! That would be amazing, so while I assume he's gonna be HC or bust, we can still dream right?

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