The conversation is “centered around oregon and Washington” because Cal and LJSJU were vetted even before fUCLa and Suc.
The problem is it’s a literal death sentence for the pac if they take us, while if they take oregon and udubb we’d be struggling but alive.
Why do I say that?
Well A it would be no California presence other than potentially sdsu and more importantly B
Look no further than oregon and Washington’s 2 deeps and you’ll have your answer. Oregon has 0 Oregonians on the entire 2 deep and their best player on offense is from Palo Alto while their best player on d is from Elk Grove. I count no less than 10 from the bay in the 2 deep. Also who was the last talent that truly panned out from either of those states? Exactly.
Last year alone the Bay Area (150 mile radius) had 5 starting nfl qbs (Brady, Allen, Goff, Rodgers, Carr); 2 starting rbs (Najee Harris, Joe mixon); Davante Adams; bahktiari; etc
And that’s not a 1 off either.
The talent is superior and their decade after decade after decade.
So…if cal and furd are in the big ten and oregon and udubb are not. That is a death sentence for them. If they are in the big ten and we are not it’s a huge fucking risk because we could potentially go to the big 12 or the acc and their recruiting base is poof poof gone.
Imho they will try to follow us wherever we go. They can’t compete with suc and fUCLA for la anymore and so they tap on the bay and sac hard. Take it away and their collective 40 national championships (none other than udubb 1990 in a major men’s sport) becomes that much more glaring.
The Bay Area kids can still go to UW or UO regardless of what conference they play in or we play in. Harris and Mixon went to conferences that don't have Cal or Stanford in.
I understand what you’re saying but in a way you just proved my point for me.
Those are 2 5 star skill position guys who left for pedigree schools. Not oregon. The guys oregon gets are 4 stars and a ton of them to fill a ton of positions. If they lose the Bay Area I can guarantee they lose their grip by at least 50% which may not sound like a lot but when you now only get 5 Bay Area 3-4 star guys on your class sheet who are you replacing them with?
1 star oregon kids?
They would absolutely take a hit.
It goes from the backyard to a backyard where everyone else is now dipping their stick to perhaps even a fenced off backyard with a 150 pound Rottweiler if cal and furd went to another p5. And that’s a fallacy. You somehow are implying that if oregon and udubb leave cal and furd will fade into oblivion
So the type of players that Oregon and Washington are currently getting from Bay Area. Are they not going to Oregon or Washington just because they are not in the same conference as Cal or Stanford anymore? And if they don't go to Oregon or Washington, where are they going to go? And your point is that Oregon and Washington will not leave Pac12 unless Cal and Stanford go with them?
I think he means they will have a diminished recruiting presence/exposure in the Bay Area if they don't regularly play Cal and Stanford, which I think is fallacy.. If anything they'll get these kids more easily (in addition to USC/UCLA). The B1G'S west coast pod might as well be named The Bay Area Carpetbaggers.
It’s exactly what I mean. And you’re basically assuming that if Cal and Furd are fading into the MWC or something, and if by some miracle the SEC and Big 12 don’t up their Bay Area recruiting game i feel safe saying that the average 17 year old boy does not have a raging boner to take no less than 6 East coast trips per year and basically sacrifice the entirety of their college years to being on an airplane.
For you and me?
Sure I’m an Alaska 100K gold mvp and I fly another 10k a year in my sr20 on business and that’s the norm.
An 18 year old? Not so much
The majority of them want to go to frat row and smash mystery trim, not be like me where you’re catching a red eye to hit Chicagoland for a meeting.
I’m not saying some won’t do it, but believe it or not not every 3-4 star kid is going to college solely for football.
The conversation is “centered around oregon and Washington” because Cal and LJSJU were vetted even before fUCLa and Suc.
The problem is it’s a literal death sentence for the pac if they take us, while if they take oregon and udubb we’d be struggling but alive.
Why do I say that?
Well A it would be no California presence other than potentially sdsu and more importantly B
Look no further than oregon and Washington’s 2 deeps and you’ll have your answer. Oregon has 0 Oregonians on the entire 2 deep and their best player on offense is from Palo Alto while their best player on d is from Elk Grove. I count no less than 10 from the bay in the 2 deep. Also who was the last talent that truly panned out from either of those states? Exactly.
Last year alone the Bay Area (150 mile radius) had 5 starting nfl qbs (Brady, Allen, Goff, Rodgers, Carr); 2 starting rbs (Najee Harris, Joe mixon); Davante Adams; bahktiari; etc
And that’s not a 1 off either.
The talent is superior and their decade after decade after decade.
So…if cal and furd are in the big ten and oregon and udubb are not. That is a death sentence for them. If they are in the big ten and we are not it’s a huge fucking risk because we could potentially go to the big 12 or the acc and their recruiting base is poof poof gone.
Imho they will try to follow us wherever we go. They can’t compete with suc and fUCLA for la anymore and so they tap on the bay and sac hard. Take it away and their collective 40 national championships (none other than udubb 1990 in a major men’s sport) becomes that much more glaring.
That logic doesn't make sense.
The Bay Area kids can still go to UW or UO regardless of what conference they play in or we play in. Harris and Mixon went to conferences that don't have Cal or Stanford in.
I understand what you’re saying but in a way you just proved my point for me.
Those are 2 5 star skill position guys who left for pedigree schools. Not oregon. The guys oregon gets are 4 stars and a ton of them to fill a ton of positions. If they lose the Bay Area I can guarantee they lose their grip by at least 50% which may not sound like a lot but when you now only get 5 Bay Area 3-4 star guys on your class sheet who are you replacing them with?
1 star oregon kids?
They would absolutely take a hit.
It goes from the backyard to a backyard where everyone else is now dipping their stick to perhaps even a fenced off backyard with a 150 pound Rottweiler if cal and furd went to another p5. And that’s a fallacy. You somehow are implying that if oregon and udubb leave cal and furd will fade into oblivion
So the type of players that Oregon and Washington are currently getting from Bay Area. Are they not going to Oregon or Washington just because they are not in the same conference as Cal or Stanford anymore? And if they don't go to Oregon or Washington, where are they going to go? And your point is that Oregon and Washington will not leave Pac12 unless Cal and Stanford go with them?
I think he means they will have a diminished recruiting presence/exposure in the Bay Area if they don't regularly play Cal and Stanford, which I think is fallacy.. If anything they'll get these kids more easily (in addition to USC/UCLA). The B1G'S west coast pod might as well be named The Bay Area Carpetbaggers.
It’s exactly what I mean. And you’re basically assuming that if Cal and Furd are fading into the MWC or something, and if by some miracle the SEC and Big 12 don’t up their Bay Area recruiting game i feel safe saying that the average 17 year old boy does not have a raging boner to take no less than 6 East coast trips per year and basically sacrifice the entirety of their college years to being on an airplane.
For you and me?
Sure I’m an Alaska 100K gold mvp and I fly another 10k a year in my sr20 on business and that’s the norm.
An 18 year old? Not so much
The majority of them want to go to frat row and smash mystery trim, not be like me where you’re catching a red eye to hit Chicagoland for a meeting.
I’m not saying some won’t do it, but believe it or not not every 3-4 star kid is going to college solely for football.
Okay I reread your original comment. Did you edit it? It looks different from what I read the first time.
Anyway, I don't think there's any chance that Big 10 takes Cal and Stanford and not Oregon and Washington, so you can forget that.