I need more notifications of this sort. Like who had what for breakfast on the team on what day, etc. Possible details, not too much, on bowel movements too.
By waiting until the first day of classes, they're able to secure a scholarship for spring and finish out their degrees. It's a coordinated decision with the football staff.
This can be a good thing or a bad one. If the talent was not there it was good to clean house; if these guys were strong contributors, then this will hurt and weaken the squad. Either way, recruiting will now take center stage. Cal has recruited poorly over the last few years, so I hope Wilcox has a new head recruiter of Toshian proportions.
I like the dynamism of the new setup. Guys are freer to move on from a program where it does not seem to be working out for them, freeing up space and, as Old Bear 71 pointed out, scholarships for guys who feel that they may be a better fit. It can work out for both the programs and the individuals. One of the keys to Sonny Dykes success at SMU and now TCU has been getting players to transfer there.
Perhaps because I'm a Berkeley person, I'm somewhat in favor of more autonomy for student-athletes.
I think it's a double edged sword. Gives programs a chance to swing for the fences that they otherwise might not have had, even if it means cases like Femi where we just straight up get poached for $. Overall I'm ok with it. At the end of the day the players get more freedom and ultimately have to live with the consequences of their choices just like every other aspect of life, as opposed to having a decision made in high school determining their future forever.
I know some people will say "other students can't transfer that easily!" well, perhaps that's true. But other students also don't provide the same amount of direct value to the school as some of these players do. Cal made a few years tuition off of me; they make a lot more than that from the football players.
Errrrrr....I would argue that Cal's reputation is mostly based on academics and that they get far more leverage off of the undergrads and grad students that move on to be all-stars in academics and other realms, as compared to sports. And the amount of money the professors bring in dwarfs anything that our athletic department does, which is mostly a resource drain now. Now...in terms of alumni engagement and donations, sports do matter, but not because of particular players so much. I would love to see the day when our boosters pony up money to support the grad students and adjuncts that don't make a living wage and are barely scraping by, or want to pony up money to bring in top shelf professors (rather than blow mills on an unproven football talent). Our priorities are kinda jacked.
I agree with what you said. I think you misunderstood the point I was making. In terms of immediate return on investment, the average football player brings in more dollars than the average undergrad. Academic reputation as a whole versus sports reputation? Sure. A random group of 85 undergrads vs the 85 on the football team? It's not close. Which is why players get scholarships, tutor support, etc.
Opens up more scholly space?
Musical chairs continues!
I WONDER, IF THE DIASPERA AMOUNG CAL PLAYERS ALMOST OVER? GERBEAR
I need more notifications of this sort. Like who had what for breakfast on the team on what day, etc. Possible details, not too much, on bowel movements too.
Yikes on the last one
I thought transfer portal closes till Spring?
By waiting until the first day of classes, they're able to secure a scholarship for spring and finish out their degrees. It's a coordinated decision with the football staff.
Thx
Deadline to enter was Jan. 18.
Sounds like these guys were not integral to the linebacking corps. We do need to add some new faces
This can be a good thing or a bad one. If the talent was not there it was good to clean house; if these guys were strong contributors, then this will hurt and weaken the squad. Either way, recruiting will now take center stage. Cal has recruited poorly over the last few years, so I hope Wilcox has a new head recruiter of Toshian proportions.
That is my question: Rats/ship or fresh start?
My guess is more like fresh start, since they probably got told they were no longer first string.
So they can enter the portal, still, but must wait for Spring to get picked up? Can they be recruited in this interim?
Everybody panic!
I dunno
I miss the literal meanings of “commitment” and “committed”.
I like the dynamism of the new setup. Guys are freer to move on from a program where it does not seem to be working out for them, freeing up space and, as Old Bear 71 pointed out, scholarships for guys who feel that they may be a better fit. It can work out for both the programs and the individuals. One of the keys to Sonny Dykes success at SMU and now TCU has been getting players to transfer there.
Perhaps because I'm a Berkeley person, I'm somewhat in favor of more autonomy for student-athletes.
I think it's a double edged sword. Gives programs a chance to swing for the fences that they otherwise might not have had, even if it means cases like Femi where we just straight up get poached for $. Overall I'm ok with it. At the end of the day the players get more freedom and ultimately have to live with the consequences of their choices just like every other aspect of life, as opposed to having a decision made in high school determining their future forever.
I know some people will say "other students can't transfer that easily!" well, perhaps that's true. But other students also don't provide the same amount of direct value to the school as some of these players do. Cal made a few years tuition off of me; they make a lot more than that from the football players.
Errrrrr....I would argue that Cal's reputation is mostly based on academics and that they get far more leverage off of the undergrads and grad students that move on to be all-stars in academics and other realms, as compared to sports. And the amount of money the professors bring in dwarfs anything that our athletic department does, which is mostly a resource drain now. Now...in terms of alumni engagement and donations, sports do matter, but not because of particular players so much. I would love to see the day when our boosters pony up money to support the grad students and adjuncts that don't make a living wage and are barely scraping by, or want to pony up money to bring in top shelf professors (rather than blow mills on an unproven football talent). Our priorities are kinda jacked.
I agree with what you said. I think you misunderstood the point I was making. In terms of immediate return on investment, the average football player brings in more dollars than the average undergrad. Academic reputation as a whole versus sports reputation? Sure. A random group of 85 undergrads vs the 85 on the football team? It's not close. Which is why players get scholarships, tutor support, etc.
I think what you are saying is fair enough.
And if we addressed the things above ^^^ we would get a lot more campus support for athletics (which I, personally, would support).
As long as Cal becomes a powerhouse and one to benefit from all of these new changes. When will that be? In 5 years?