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Calbears93's avatar

Chip Kelly worst UCLA coach and owns Wilcox…who has a Pac-12 record like Holmoe. Is what it is.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I believe Chip now has three 20+ point victories over Wilcox as Cals head coach.

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Calbears93's avatar

All those years stanfurd put a smart and physical team on the field with tough academic standards. Hope cal can do that one day. Fear Wilcox won’t recruit those players not will he ever attract the talent tedford did

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Those Stanford teams were physically dominant in the trenches on both sides...they controlled the LOS. Their OL never got overwhelmed like this....

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SallyBear's avatar

Next week will be the battle of 4-7 teams for that 5th win

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SallyBear's avatar

Byu with the ball and the lead with 38 seconds left

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GoldenHairs's avatar

watching usc game, they look pretty good

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

At the end of the day, they are still USC athletes...4*/5* guys...

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Just blitz on every play, they have the athletes and speed to blitz and contain the Cal offense.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

After this game, why wouldn’t you?

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I don’t understand why all teams didn’t. This is basically what WSU did. Nevada kind of did it but their DEs were good enough to beat Daltoso so they eased off that and just rushed 4. UW did the same during the start of the game but then kind of stopped when we hit some plays.

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Archon79's avatar

If USC loses can we just cancel next weeks game? Im ready for the season to be over.

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SadAndColdNortheastBear's avatar

Still want a shot at them. 4-7, 4-8, who cares? But beating SC would be fun (potential upside outweighs potential downside imo).

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Justbear's avatar

If we beat them, then we end the season feeling pretty good, at least that for that weekend.

If we lose, then it would be so depressing.

I still want to see Cal play because we won't have another game for 9 months.

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Archon79's avatar

One thing is for sure. Going 4-8 is a disaster considering what we were told about this team to begin the season.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

This team had expectation to go 8-4 with a winning Pac 12 record. Upside

Down Cal.

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Justbear's avatar

Is that any better than 4-7 though?

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Archon79's avatar

Yes 4-7 is better then 4–8.

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Justbear's avatar

Other than a winning percentage number, I can't tell any difference between the two records.

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Archon79's avatar

4-7 is a disaster, 4-8 is just a bigger disaster.

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SallyBear's avatar

They’re as beatable as they’ll ever be.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Agreed...it was disappointing from the get-go

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SallyBear's avatar

We’ll always have last week?

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TD_24's avatar

I forgot who said it but someone said our 1st ranked rush D was phony because we hadn't played anyone good on O the last month. Tonight sure showed it. 282 rush yards on us good lord.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

The whole conference has been so bad that none of these in-conference stats really mean anything this year.

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GoldenHairs's avatar

just got opened right up

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SallyBear's avatar

BYU takes the lead. Next week could be the futility bowl.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

SC still has a chance at a bowl

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SallyBear's avatar

If they pull out the win tonight

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

True...my bad. Thought they were 5-5 going into BYU

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Calbears93's avatar

I have seen a lot of bad cal football. That second half is right up there.

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sacman701's avatar

That was easily the worst half we've played under Wilcox. We've had other bad halves, but we had excuses for those. Today we just got run out of the stadium by a team that's nothing special.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Well said...just overmatched by an athletic, physically superior & confident defense.

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Justbear's avatar

I think it's just one of many terrible Cal football I've seen, and I don't really distinguish any of them.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

I guess part of it is how long you've been watching. Since 2001-ish for me. There were a few epic losses in that time where we looked like an FCS team.

But it feels like we rarely showed much promise inside the seasons with which those occurred, like we do with Wilcox. That's whats so frustrating about him the last 2 maybe 3 years. Completely, I mean entirely different Cal teams show up from week to week. You never know which unit is going to shit the beg, while other units look stellar. They rotate sucking and playing well.. And then every once in a while, they all come together. And every once in a while, they all play like shit at the same time.

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Calbears93's avatar

Always a problem when Daniel Scott seemed to be making every play on defense. Why is Lic Bequette still on the field? He never makes plays. Give the young kids a chance.

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SadAndColdNortheastBear's avatar

pretty consistently against UCLA these past few years (2018 blowout, 2020 COVID surprise, today)

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WilderThanGene's avatar

Chip knows how to twist the knife

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SadAndColdNortheastBear's avatar

Yep, I remember feeling especially pissed after the 2018 game

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Justbear's avatar

we are winning the Time of possession. And we didn't even stick to the run game.

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sacman701's avatar

Time of possession has never meant anything.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

haha remember in week 1, Penn State beat Wisconsin with only ~17 minutes time of possession for the entire game (to Wisconsin's ~42 minutes) and still won the game.

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Justbear's avatar

It just shows how slow our offense is. Our team can't play from behind.

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Joseph Kim's avatar

Well at least we also get chase back next year. No way this game helps his NFL prospects

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Calbears93's avatar

Please lord move on. He is not a good passing QB. Bottom quartile in D1 at best. Good instincts and running ability behind a mediocre line. We really need a good passing QB who can find tigers over the middle. Give Milner the start last game…nothing to lose!

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sacman701's avatar

Garbers may decide that he just wants to take his degree and get on with his life.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

maybe even take his talents to South Beach

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GoldenSD81's avatar

I think he would be great at SDSU.

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Archon79's avatar

Chase should go to a school that will use him correctly and recognize what he is, an RPO dual threat QB with limited arm talent

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GoldenSD81's avatar

He would be great in the ucla power spread.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

Chase just signed a 4 year extension, he's a done deal for the next 4 years.

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Archon79's avatar

Wait, NFL? Garbers???

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Chase is the blessing and the curse. It’s true hostage situation right now for the Cal offense.

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goldenone's avatar

It's time to move on from Chase. He's had his chances in those program defining games and hasn't performed...

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Justbear's avatar

The biggest problem is we haven't had anyone challenge even close to Garbers ability.

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TezCalipoca's avatar

He was never leaving early

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Joseph Kim's avatar

Hey I'm trying to find positives, lol

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TezCalipoca's avatar

Beat furd one more time!

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WilderThanGene's avatar

They should put Chase in at safety to rattle his little bro

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KetamineCal's avatar

Rubenzer Redux

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Oski Disciple's avatar

Remember when we were leading, 14-10? That was fun.

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SallyBear's avatar

Yeah… only one actual scoring drive of more than 20 yards this game.

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Calbears93's avatar

True. Brutal. Offense was so bad I just don’t get it.

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TezCalipoca's avatar

Those were the good old days

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Archon79's avatar

Anyone penciling USC as a win after what we saw tonight is delusional.

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Justbear's avatar

We just ran a 18 play drive that ended in turnover on downs. Do they realize they are down multiple TDs in 4th quarter? This is ridiculous.

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SadAndColdNortheastBear's avatar

I'll be happy if we rob USC of a bowl game next week

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Joseph Kim's avatar

Blitz > Musgrave

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GoldenSD81's avatar

It’s that easy to stop this offense. Just blitz them into submission. Musgrave and Garbers can’t adjust to beat the blitz and Musgrave doesn’t have the patience to call run play after run play and match downfield. He gets cute and impatient and decides to pass.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

If you’re USC all you have to do is continually blitz this OL and Garbers. If I’m an opposing DC I would call A gap blitzes over and over until Cals offense can show the ability to stop me. It’s that easy to stop this offense.

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Calbears93's avatar

Maybe a screen? We tried that once in the fourth quarter. Remember our run game with Chris Brooks? Feels like last year.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Musgrave is way too smart and good of an OC to call a simply screen. Fuck it, I’m going deep on 4th and short.

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SallyBear's avatar

Too obvious.

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BiPolarPolarBear's avatar

Terrible game plan by Musgrave…

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Bowlbasaur's avatar

18 play drive in garbage time to get 0 points. Forget Toyota Tercel offense this is a rusted out Yugo.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

I see it more like a 1993 Camry LE Wagon that finally blew it's head gasket today

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goldenone's avatar

Piece of s---

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SallyBear's avatar

0 points against ucla’s backup defense. When the starters are already one of the worst in the conference.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

kick the field goal!

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Bongo Bear's avatar

USC up against BYU. Think we'll win next week?

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Bongo Bear's avatar

Me neither

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

It'll be a dogfight....Memorial will be empty, and they're still USC...quicker & faster than most of the Cal players.

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SallyBear's avatar

We’ll have nothing to play for and USC may be playing for a bowl game. That one could get ugly.

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Justbear's avatar

how many plays did we run in this drive? I know we won't win, but do they have any urgency?

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Throw the ball to Sturdivant every single time....get the kid some looks.

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Joseph Kim's avatar

lol "give me a chance" crawford not happy with that throw

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TezCalipoca's avatar

Gotta save that clip for a meme

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Justbear's avatar

this offense is sooooo slow.

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goldenone's avatar

Put in Sturdivant but it was too little too late. And why is Remigio a breakaway threat on returns yet can't make a grab and get any YAC in the offense? Weird.

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GoldenHairs's avatar

same story as washington game death by blitz over and over

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Krazy4Cal's avatar

Of course we convert 4th down when it doesn't matter.

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BiPolarPolarBear's avatar

I just saw the score and I thought I saw -14 to 42…

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Calbears93's avatar

I mean really?

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Oh my goodness

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

The level of confidence this dogschitt UCLA D has played with this entire game is a problem for Wilcox....UCLA has played like they were never going to lose this game. Never.

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Joseph Kim's avatar

shoulda also ran hurryup to counter blitz. musgrave total brainfart this game

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GoldenSD81's avatar

We finally ran a screen!

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Exactly...even Helfrich was wondering where that was....

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Calbears93's avatar

Announcers finally calling for it!

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Calbears93's avatar

Good thing screens coming now.

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Musgrave has finally adjusted.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Wow! Finally a screen pass...WHERE'S that been?

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Joseph Kim's avatar

what do you know a screen, lol

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Justbear's avatar

oh garbers shovel passed it

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Justbear's avatar

why did they blow it dead?

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

The speed with which the wheels came off the wagon tonight is jarring...

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SadAndColdNortheastBear's avatar

The wheels were affixed to the wagon using elmer's glue and silly string

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WilderThanGene's avatar

the wagon was magnetically levitating above the wheels before the power went out

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SadAndColdNortheastBear's avatar

Explains the lighting gimmick every time UCLA scored

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WilderThanGene's avatar

There needs to be an investigation into those lights!

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Bowlbasaur's avatar

Cal was up 14-10 at one point. Ooof

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Calbears93's avatar

First half was competitive and this second half is flat out embarrassing. Some of the worst football I’ve ever seen. Defense completely confused and tackling poorly and offense completely inept against a mediocre team. This is grounds for Wilcox to be fired.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

We got beat down like this for all 4 quarters by Utah once, if I recall correctly.

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

That was with a 3rd string, true FR QB and missing most of the O-line....this is different.

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WilderThanGene's avatar

But Garbers is technically at <1 years of experience right now because the dial resets to 0 at some point

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Oski Disciple's avatar

So for the 63rd year in a row we won't beat our three rivals in the same season. Shit!

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Thank you - Eisenhower was president, no?

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GoldenHairs's avatar

was looking winnable 1st half what happened

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Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Smoke & mirrors...take away the muffed kick and this is a blowout.

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SallyBear's avatar

9 second half yards of offense happened.

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LABear1983's avatar

Bad game planning, no adjustments, and bad matchups

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Justbear's avatar

Chip Kelly to UW?

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GoldenSD81's avatar

Wilcox better hope Kelly goes somewhere outside of the Pac 12 because Kelly takes him to the woodshed over and over.

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Justbear's avatar

I think we lose tonight

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Joseph Kim's avatar

Well I guess we help Chip get locked in at UCLA

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goldenone's avatar

Rout in progress

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Krazy4Cal's avatar

Defense wants to challenge the offense with who is worse.

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bearspot's avatar

This defense has the more difficult task.

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Krazy4Cal's avatar

This is very true. Cal just can't ever handle a dual threat QB. Always scares me when we face QB like this.

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