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bigaddi's avatar

Cal basketball has lots of work to do to get over the past 5 years. A realistic goal for this season should be finishing above .500

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

I was very bully on their chances to make a push for the bubble…re-evaluating that after tonight.

The L isn’t as much the problem as how they came about it…shredded by opponents 3’s again, missed free throws, and disappearing acts by key rotation members Celestine/Newell…and NO impact by your backup big, Okafor…a puzzling lack of toughness in the paint by Aimaq…and then of course Askew’s turnovers.

We’re absolutely better and this season will have plenty of fun moments…but they got run off the court by the team that’s predicted to finish 8th in the WCC. Problematic loss for their Tourney profile, which was always a long shot, TBH. But I was hopeful.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Brown’s not ready to contribute.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

The Fox guys (Brown, Okafor, Celestine, Newell) gave them nothing tonight.

Bluehenbear's avatar

Still no bench points

Bluehenbear's avatar

Missed a lot of 3 pointers too

Bluehenbear's avatar

Would like to see +\- for this game cuz askew’s gonna have big - number.

They were up by 7 and then the bottom fell out

Gobears512's avatar

I'm always curious with a guy like Askew playing so poorly but it's early in the season... do you pull a guy like that or see how if he plays better. My frustration says pull him but maybe that's not the best answer ?

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Problem is THIS is the player he’s been for 3+ years. Not sure it’s realistic to expect any change.

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Devin Askew is brutal. Sigh.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Yeah he’s not very good.

bigaddi's avatar

Theres a reason he couldn't get minutes at Kentucky or Texas

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Bad loss. Time to re-evaluate my NCAA Tournament expectations unfortunately.

Gobears512's avatar

#2 seed instead of #1 seed in the west ? Damn

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Nah, this is not a Tournament team. It was a big ask, and they’ll be better than last year, but UOP isn’t very good and they’re kicking the schitt out of this Cal team. They’re tougher, faster and more confident.

Gobears512's avatar

Yeah I know. But we certainly might get better over the season and anything is better than what we were. Man the wheels came off in a hurry.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Oh, absolutely. We’re already better and there will be some real fun times. I already really like this team and I have real faith in Madsen and this staff to coach these kids up. Looking forward to seeing the kids in San Juan Capistrano over Thanksgiving. And they’re still missing Kennedy, who’s their best on-ball defender and an athletic slasher that is key to their O. They’ll be better.

BUT, a small sliver of Chitwood thought they could go really go from 3-29 to 20+ wins and a visit to the Bubble, and that dream took a real hit tonight. Now you probably HAVE to get a couple out of at Butler, v Ole Miss, v SDSU to get to 20…based on what we saw tonight, THAT could be tough.

But again, from where we’ve been, this is still going to be a fun and glorious year.

Gobears512's avatar

Man ! I like your summary ! And I also kind of hoped against hope we would be some Cinderella team and surprise everyone. Having said that I now remembered that we are Cal and the lesson is we aren't allowed to have nice things

Bluehenbear's avatar

Tyson returns 🤞

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Yeah, this team is probably only going as far as he’ll take them, unfortunately.

Gobears512's avatar

Once again I'm not able to watch ... how good is Jaylon Tyson this game ?

Bluehenbear's avatar

Whole team plays better with him out there but he took a bad tumble. Hope he can return

Gobears512's avatar

Thank you! His stat line is insane for a guard but I wasn't sure how it looked in "real life". Appreciated.

OC Bear's avatar

Zero points off of the bench.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Plenty of work to be done on the defensive end.

bigaddi's avatar

These announcers can't be serious. Why are they still making excuses for Mark Fox. That man was a terrible coach and should remain far away from the game of basketball

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

It’s going to be interesting to see what this team’s identity turns out to be.

bigaddi's avatar

Defense not looking great, but one guy isn't fixing all these miscues by himself

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

No but he’s a lockdown defender. That helps.

OC Bear's avatar

need to get back on D; giving up too many layups.

bigaddi's avatar

Askew is going to be a tough watch this whole season. Hopefully other guards start to step up and take minutes away from him. Other than that not much to complain about with this team

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Yeah he’s looking to take the air out of the ball with every touch.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Newell is a dark horse 2nd-team All-PAC 12 selection in the making.

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I already love Jaylon Tyson’s game.

Get excited folks!

GlueAndBold's avatar

My other team's currently beefing it, ready to pick my spirits back up!

WilderThanGene's avatar

Burke's gonna be correcting Braun's pronunciation of "Celestine" all year

Go Eat A Taco's avatar

I know it is an OOC game but this is the most EXCITE I've been to watch a game in over 5 years!!