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Allegedly ND is going to bat for us according to Larry Williams.

"Notre Dame, an ACC member in all sports but football, is "pushing hard" for ACC to add Stanford & Cal"

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38159813/troy-taylor-says-stanford-intends-remain-power-5-imagine-anything-else

Interview with Troy Taylor, with two interesting points:

First is that, in his opinion, travel for the players is no big deal. They'd rather take a 5-hour flight and play big-time P5 teams instead of a 1-hour flight to play MW or AAC teams.

Second is that sources at furd are saying there will be resolution by the end of the week. Not sure how that can happen if they are really just in an early exploratory phase.

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Cal & Stanford’s would be similar to Hawaii, when Hawaii goes out on the road for men’s or women’s basketball and they have to go to the mainland to play a game they don’t just travel back-and-forth they go out on 2 14 Day Road trips to mitigate the travel costs and I would imagine both Stanford and Cal would have to do something similar. Joining the ACC would be bad for Cal and Stanford. As I mentioned earlier the best path forward for Stanford and Cal and the rest of the Pac 12 members would be to take Idaho and Idaho State Montana Montana State those schools would have to move up to FBS but they wouldn’t have to pay an exorbitant exit fee they could immediately join the conference.. now Idaho and Idaho state would probably have to build new stadiums but I would think those schools would be very open to doing that if they knew they were going to be in the Pac 12 conference and have an opportunity to play for the Rose Bowl every year . Then after the 24 season they could get their pick of the mountain west schools to join say UNLV, San Diego State, Colorado State, Air Force along with SMU & Rice. The travel for the remaining Pac 12 schools would be a lot more manageable and they would also retain control of having your conference champion in football be able to play in the Rose Bowl. Maybe those member institutions could get $20-$25 million per school from a TV media rights deal

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I do not support an ACC merger, for the same reason that I opposed the B!G.

This sucks for student-athletes and as a former one at Cal, I feel I have a sound perspective.

I get alums and fans here are begging for anything anywhere, but let's stop being selfish and think about what this does to our lads traveling in tight seats, sore after a game and with a mid-term 48 hours after they land! Most of you were not student-athletes and if you were told that this would be your life style you would have opted out of attending Cal. Be real.

Our leadership team failed us on multiple levels, this will only perpetuate that. They will claim how great this deal is and how hard they work and y'all will fall in lock step with this bullshit.

Now, let's get to recruiting. UNC and Cal are recruiting you. What is the first thing UNC says to you? Come to UNC, at worst you travel cross country 1x a year, go to Cal and you travel cross country 3 - 4 times a year while maintaining your eligibility. Where do you think that recruit is going to go, where would you go? And yet y'all be the first to say Cal sucks at recruiting.

Other than $$$$ there is nothing to support/see here.

Someone had to say it.

Now, go eat a taco.

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Hmm… I have yet to hear compelling reasons why we think enough ACC schools will vote for this to clear the hurdle. I get why Cal in particular would probably accept a painfully low percentage but seems too many variables/negatives to put our hopes on this one. I REALLY hope we wind up in a good place but seems more likely ACC doesn’t move forward and we’re back to MWC discussion.

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This makes a lot more sense. Old but still relevant.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/p5m0yb/comment/h974lu8/

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This definitely will not be a permanent solution. ACC might dissolve in a few years so all the travel would be temporary while we get East Coast exposure, so I'm starting to like the idea.

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one positive benefit of joining an "east" conference... those analyst at ESPN and east coast media may pay a little more attention.

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it would be hilarious to think, cal & stanford lobbying ACC to take them.. saying we want to be part of ACC, we'll take anything, let's work it out, look at the all the benefits, it'll be an awesome arrangement, this can work..... while ACC tries to squeeze as much out of them.... then big 10 says "ok we'll take you for chump change" and then CAL & Stanford immediately saying YES.

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Aug 9, 2023·edited Aug 9, 2023

Newellbany and I were talking about this yesterday - don’t think there’s any chance Cal and Stanford join the ACC. None of it makes sense…none.

But who benefits by dragging Cal and ‘Furd into this fantasy just so the ACC can pass on them? ESPN? I mean, most people can agree that the Bay Area schools to the Atlantic Coast Conference is patently absurd.

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Seems like the best of a series of bad options, if the Big 12 is out and the Big Ten is not answering our calls. Maybe we can borrow a few Falcon Heavies from Elon to help with the travel?

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The Regents are a feckless bunch …

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I think the big hurdle might be the ACC fans themselves. Read some of the threads; they are not onboard with this; they need convincing. Totally a different situation than with the B1G and Big 12 dumbos enthusiastic support of poaching the Pac.

I don't think a three school add makes much sense for the ACC. If they are going to go that route, it needs to be a bigger, bolder grab (e.g., Cal, Stanfurd, SDSU, SMU, Tulane, and Connecticut...or maybe Cal, Stanfurd, Wazzu, Oregon State, SDSU, UNR, UNLV, Boise State, SMU and Tulane in some kind of western pod). This would ease the travel burden a bit for the western schools (sans Connecticut). The flipside is that the realized travel burden is really not all that bad for the ACC schools if it is only Cal and Stanford, but gets worse for the existing schools as more schools from the south and southwest are added.

And, of course, this all depends on the media G*ds/devils and whether they see any value here. It's a risk because some individual success is required for each school to raise its valuation, but not everybody can win.

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This is scary: the UC Board of Regents "offered Chancellor Christ full support as she and her leadership team pursue their options." Holy shit, talk about out of touch. Also, now we have Michael Drake vouching for The Clueless One and her sidekick, The Empty Suit. These three stooges are our champions!!! Cal is screwed and doomed.

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rumor from a Clemson blogger that Carolina is also a No vote, so we can't lose anymore.

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