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TezCalipoca's avatar

I'm not giving up on Tosh yet. Yes, OC fired immediately, do not even allow him to get back to the locker room from the field. but, our defense is good, they just cant' be on the field 90% of the game

Jamal Mohsin's avatar

Ron didn’t not conduct a proper HC search and was already set on bringing home a local kid to sell season tickets and rally donors

Cici's avatar

Well, looks like RR blew it.

Jamal Mohsin's avatar

He absolutely did

Cici's avatar

I feel especially awful for the players.

Old Bear 71's avatar

Whelp. That was one very sad disappointing performance. What we saw is what it is. A mess.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Yup. Pretty much a disaster.

Given this coaching staff’s relative inexperience, it’s incredibly unrealistic to expect them to make some massive headway this year. Best we can hope for is incremental progress.

But 8 or 9 wins is a pipe dream.

angelcarverblues's avatar

This is exactly what those of us who were pessimistic about Tosh were worried about. Slight improvement in recruiting is more than offset by a dive in coaching, making this a team whose fondest dreams are for a Wilcox level 6 or 7 wins.

Kcalbear's avatar

Shhh you will be accosted and called an idiot for saying this….

Bluehenbear's avatar

Was this loss “a great opportunity for our team.” FML

AndyPanda's avatar

Is it time to Fire Wilcox! yet?

That has been the preeminent proposed solution after Cal games like this for years on Wtf California Golden message boards.

Oh, wait. That was tried. And still, the UCLA & Clemson games were vintage Cal games.

Might be a different problem?

Kcalbear's avatar

Yeah what’s the problem arm chair bro?

CalBear’19's avatar

What do you think the problem could be?

Andrew's avatar

Well at least the raiders seems to have hired a decent coach

Old Bear 71's avatar

They have a good qb in the wings

Bob Dole's avatar

So maybe it’s not a good idea to hire someone who stabs you in the back

LosAltosOski's avatar

I need my HC to be a good at being a coach, not just elite recruiter and motivator. He needs to study schemes and play-calling if he is not hiring experts who can do that for him. This is just bad.

And I am sorry - this Clemson team is bad.

Kcalbear's avatar

Thank you I said this when he was in discussion and everyone was like F off. Nah bear never forgets.

Bob Dole's avatar

I wanted a proven coach even if it was an FCS coach but everyone blew their load over Lupoi

Kcalbear's avatar

Same spend money on a proven high CALiber coach and the recruits will come to us. The people running this site need to touch grass lol this guy literally stabbed us in the back. The tenacity…

Bob Dole's avatar

Literally have a guy in Davis doing great but gotta hire these bums. Shit even just hitting Rolo would have been smarter

NinjaNed's avatar

Curious to see how this affects recruiting. Like how you gonna get kids excited to play for you when this is what you're putting on the field.

SaucyBear's avatar

Myles Baker made a good decision apparently

Rick Chen's avatar

all money is green

LosAltosOski's avatar

I don't know. Are you excited to donate to NIL given this level of incompetence? I will support this football program. But Cal needs to do better stat!! And we cannot wait another year/game to figure it out.

Juice's avatar

I don’t think anybody ever kept Tosh around for his coaching, which was fine for a recruiting specialist helping a real coach but I’m really not feeling great about putting him in charge of an entire program

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

A defensive minded HC going with a complete unknown in Somerville who had zero play calling experience was always a head scratcher.

It looks like an unmitigated disaster right now.

LosAltosOski's avatar

I was hoping he hires competent OC and DC to make up for his personal lacking. That's what a good leader do. He is not a good head coach if cannot figure out that the coaches he has hired and his coaching philosophy is THE problem.

Juice's avatar

There’s a baseline level of competence required to even understand that’s what the problem is, hopefully he finds it

Zach Loyd's avatar

Honestly. I appreciate the D trying. They kept it a game. Only so much you can do. It was bound to happen. It’s a shame we had to be put through this. Like going for heart surgery and it being out of network and having your spleen taken out instead and the provider getting a raise. Like really? This is what we get? Morons. Complete morons. I’m gonna eat the shit out of chicken tenders or lobster rolls tomorrow. I don’t know yet. Fts

Kcalbear's avatar

How’s that traitor coach working out for you. Tosh Taco… lmao yall sunshine pumping now? Pathetic

CalBear’19's avatar

That’s on JKS. Why throw it into double coverage.

I think he has regressed unfortunately.

HaasBear's avatar

Bc it’s 4th down and you’re down 14 with 2 minutes. Can’t exactly throw a checkdown there.

CalBear’19's avatar

I’d rather him try to buy more time out of the pocket, roll out and try to find someone open. Hell, even tuck it and run is more logical.

But throwing it into double coverage is a big no no.

I’m going to be frank, I think the offense is too complicated for him and the the whole offense. They need to simplify it, less thinking, more reacting.

97Bear's avatar

So so bad…. Tosh and company need to walk the walk instead of all talk.

LosAltosOski's avatar

I hope the reporters will ask Tosh what he will do differently. Practice better/harder ain't it. This starts with him.

SaucyBear's avatar

Complete disaster. And those comments I made against UCLA where everyone said to mute me I stand by them.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

What most people don’t understand is that we simply don’t have the time for a rebuild.

We spent a lot of money. Right now, it’s been a waste.

SaucyBear's avatar

Yalls are only waking up to this now but it was written on the wall against UCLA. Other said it in this thread. We have gotten worse.

Bluehenbear's avatar

JKS and WR need to earn their next start.

GoldenHairs's avatar

feel bad for jks

HaasBear's avatar

THREE POINTS AGAINST AN ABYSMAL CLEMSON TEAM.

HaasBear's avatar

Somerville needs to be gone tonight. Anything else is an embarrassment

LosAltosOski's avatar

I like to watch Cal football. But it is so painful to watch this level of incompetence. We are getting beat by bad team and we play even worse.

Cici's avatar

All Tosh, no delivery

Bluehenbear's avatar

Throw the ball 20 yds to gain 4

Cici's avatar

Worse than Wilcox, by far.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

It’s not even close.

All around, it’s as poorly coached of a Cal football team as we have seen since Holmoe’s 1-10 team.

HaasBear's avatar

Feels like this team is worse than any of the Wilcox teams.

Krazy4Cal's avatar

Somehow Tosh literally did what I thought was not possible...have an offense worse than JW teams

concernedparent's avatar

Worse special teams too.

Old Bear 71's avatar

Utter regression

cheeksbossman's avatar

Expected some growing pains with Tosh as a first time HC but man this is really pathetic

LosAltosOski's avatar

Yes - but this is incompetent.

TezCalipoca's avatar

How far has clemson fallen, that are relieved to beat Cal

angelcarverblues's avatar

The only thing this team is good at is getting other teams to play down to its level. And that luck seems to be running out.

LosAltosOski's avatar

Does that remind you of the UCLA blow up yet?

Mark's avatar
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I feel like cal hired a bunch of coaches who want to be on a good team but don't actually know how or want to do real coaching.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

He prioritized guys who can recruit.

But no one can coach.

This is as unprepared a Cal roster as I’ve seen since Holmoe.

HaasBear's avatar

Embarrasing

Bluehenbear's avatar

Killed by a draw on third down. Smdh

CalBear’19's avatar

What an embarrasment.

GoldenHairs's avatar

clemson has way better plays

Bluehenbear's avatar

Perfect play call and execution for the situation.

Bluehenbear's avatar

Lucky break there. That would’ve been game over

Bluehenbear's avatar

Should we be using our timeouts?

RightWayRiegels's avatar

A head coach actually has to know how to be a head coach.

RightWayRiegels's avatar

This is the Desean Foster UCLA experiment at a slightly better school …

RightWayRiegels's avatar

Hiring a former player with no prior head coaching experience.

TezCalipoca's avatar

If the OC isn't fired, then I want them both fired. Let's act like we are serious about football

GoldenBear88's avatar

The handwriting has been on the wall since the third quarter. Clemson will just run, run, run and burn time off the clock. Even when the offense does get on the field they can't do anything. In the back of my mind I knew we were going to lose because everytime Cal plays a "statement" game, they just can't seem to pull through. Sigh.......

AndDriveDriveDrive's avatar

Off topic but I HATE this unicorn skin cream commercial

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

My skin has never looked so good….

Zach Loyd's avatar

This will be my last year following. I know I’ve said it before. But when I go to the nc state game it will be my last. I will dress as Beavis on Halloween and Beavis loves fire. FIRE SOMERVILLE.

Zach Loyd's avatar

His dumb ass better be gone by then.

LosAltosOski's avatar

We can't stop the run when we know it is coming... That's tough to stomach, but that's still better than the ineptitude I am seeing from offense and ST. We are not very good.... and that's just disappointing.

Jimmy Chitwood's avatar

Sorry, maybe sacrilege, but JKS needs to be better if they’re gonna win 7 this year.

Somerville is a disaster, but JKS is missing way too many reads.

HelloBowlesHall's avatar

He’s in his head. With this o line and very little creativity from his OC, I can understand why.

Bluehenbear's avatar

The offensive style just doesn’t fit his skills.

Old Bear 71's avatar

Most teams improve across their first three games. First time I’ve see Call get progressively worse

sacman701's avatar

Lopa's good in coverage but he is a very poor tackler.