I think the 4 corner schools will and should. Move to the big 12! The pac 12 brand is not good right now. They can't even pick the best expansion candidates. Boise state and fresno have way better national brands than smu or sandiego state.
Arizona and ASU belong in the Big 10. There is no alumni market for the Big 12 or Mountain West teams here. There is a huge, and growing Big 10 alumni network in Arizona. If it’s about having games people want to watch, then that’s the answer. These states aren’t like Midwestern states where different schools can easily drive to each other’s games. The distances are really far here. Will common sense prevail? Probably not.
Where cal really failed in the last decade was a failure to attract “t-shirt” fans. The majority of the eyes on USC and UCLA’s games are in LA, are fans, but are not alumni. This is where the money is in a large market.
We absolutely should be doing everything we can to fill the east bay football void left by the raiders. Hell run promotions for a free cal hat if you show up in raiders gear, have a “black hole” night, do something to attract non-alumni and alumni alike.
We are the public university with arguably the best academic reputation and research in the country. I get us not being the belle of the ball given how awful our game day experience has been and the lukewarm support of our students, but I’m somewhat shocked we are just down there with Waxzu and Oregon state
As an okie let's merge both Big 12 and PAC 12 for a super conference. Everybody is in and add UNLV for Vegas then go after ACC to complete a 32 mega conference.
It does appear that for Arizona, ASU, Colorado, and Utah to go with the BIG12 is the best survival decision at the moment. In fact, it may be the only option they have.
Money rules and at the moment the PAC12 commissioner has nothing with which to negotiate. Nada.
Cal's best case scenario is to run the table this fall in PAC12 play, demolish Notre Dame (this game has a lot riding on it) and play in the conference championship. Perhaps then the B1G may give Cal a momentary consideration but that is doubtful. The odds of Cal running the table are as good as the B1G offering Cal (the beggar) a seat at the table.
Even if Cal accomplished the impossible, I would not support a move to the B1G unless there was a Pacific pod of at least 6 original PAC12 teams. Again, currently this does not look like a possibility at the moment.
Should Cal even want to keep football ~ I doubt the powers that be do ~ then I'm all for joining some hybrid of remaining PAC12 and Mountain West combination.
SEC will add UNLV, SDSU, Hawaii and Boise State to keep up with B1G sources told me.
I love you guys who voted for Cal to blow them away, but this will be tough
Win this game, you will change the program.
If corner schools move huskies and oregon will bolt immediately
I think the 4 corner schools will and should. Move to the big 12! The pac 12 brand is not good right now. They can't even pick the best expansion candidates. Boise state and fresno have way better national brands than smu or sandiego state.
If what is said about big 12 poaching the four Pac-12 schools then the conference would be over . Stanford would go to Big Ten for sure
Stanford and Notre Dame are the two schools the Big Ten want to complete their conference
The PAC 6 should form a division in the Mountain West.
Arizona and ASU belong in the Big 10. There is no alumni market for the Big 12 or Mountain West teams here. There is a huge, and growing Big 10 alumni network in Arizona. If it’s about having games people want to watch, then that’s the answer. These states aren’t like Midwestern states where different schools can easily drive to each other’s games. The distances are really far here. Will common sense prevail? Probably not.
Cal better have watched NASCAR at Sonoma because they need to get the hell in gear and get off pit road while SC and UCLA lap us on track.
Where cal really failed in the last decade was a failure to attract “t-shirt” fans. The majority of the eyes on USC and UCLA’s games are in LA, are fans, but are not alumni. This is where the money is in a large market.
We absolutely should be doing everything we can to fill the east bay football void left by the raiders. Hell run promotions for a free cal hat if you show up in raiders gear, have a “black hole” night, do something to attract non-alumni and alumni alike.
I'm going to pretend I'm an ND fan and write to their AD not to join Big 10. Signed, GoIrish49
We are the public university with arguably the best academic reputation and research in the country. I get us not being the belle of the ball given how awful our game day experience has been and the lukewarm support of our students, but I’m somewhat shocked we are just down there with Waxzu and Oregon state
As an okie let's merge both Big 12 and PAC 12 for a super conference. Everybody is in and add UNLV for Vegas then go after ACC to complete a 32 mega conference.
We will not go quietly into the night, we will not vanish without a fight! Today we celebrate our independence from the tyranny of the Pac12!!!!!
It does appear that for Arizona, ASU, Colorado, and Utah to go with the BIG12 is the best survival decision at the moment. In fact, it may be the only option they have.
Money rules and at the moment the PAC12 commissioner has nothing with which to negotiate. Nada.
Cal's best case scenario is to run the table this fall in PAC12 play, demolish Notre Dame (this game has a lot riding on it) and play in the conference championship. Perhaps then the B1G may give Cal a momentary consideration but that is doubtful. The odds of Cal running the table are as good as the B1G offering Cal (the beggar) a seat at the table.
Even if Cal accomplished the impossible, I would not support a move to the B1G unless there was a Pacific pod of at least 6 original PAC12 teams. Again, currently this does not look like a possibility at the moment.
Should Cal even want to keep football ~ I doubt the powers that be do ~ then I'm all for joining some hybrid of remaining PAC12 and Mountain West combination.