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Will McClain's avatar

The deal could have been structured to only have the Big two revenue generating sports, football and basketball participate in the newly aligned corporate conference. It's truly not about the student -athlete anymore, which is why, former Cal great,Ron Rivera was hired as the General Manager.It seemed more logical, from a geographical standpoint, that both Cal and Stanford, would be the anchor institutions in a Newly organized,Pac-12 conference,( I do get it, the Conglomerate ACC(18 schools) would require our former schools to buy themselves out of the ACC for a quarter of a billion dollars each, and be released to return to their West Coast origins Has anyone kept tabs on the grueling wear and tear of the travel involved in this bi-coastal conference participation in games on the NIL/Portal/Title IX study habits.Attending their lectures and labs in the sky,must give a new meaning to frequent flyers Never ever hire and deploy a Commissioner who lacked understanding of the business of NIL ,or promotion of the conference,(you did, but no longer have a Pac-12 TV Network) but scheduled your games to start at 6pm PST, or 9pm on the East Coast, so that you couldn't build an East Coast fanbase, and so much more that was so egregious, that the Great History of the Pacific 12 conference was just allowed to implode and be destroyed.USC and UCLA were the first to see the debacle, but someone with a modicum of intelligence should have intervened.Bring Cal and Stanford back,it does make Geographical sense.

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Joseph Willliams's avatar

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Chris Witt's avatar

ACC = balancing athletics & academics and balancing public & private U's with quality of life and proud alumni.

Cal & Stanford were always an ideal fit and can develop new rivalries with UVA and Duke.

Miami, BC, Wake, GT all scholarly privates well located for jobs. More good state schools too.

It's continuity in that way. Plane rides are study halls now and classes can be remotely viewed if they want.

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Bhec's avatar

I say we go back to the table with media companies and negotiate a deal with them to keep the West Coast teams alive. We should we have to bow down to the rest of the country. Look at the API pre season rankings, we have more teams ranked than the Big 10. The Big 10 is getting alot more meat on the bone than the Pac schools! We have lots of players who are in the league (NFL) from the West Coast and we have top academics. The Pac 12 is not officially dissolved til Aug 2024. The right deal can get done if the right leadership was at the table. I bet Apple is still curious if you give them something that got some tender meat on the bone. Yes, you got to sell your soul to get it done!

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Bowlesman 80's avatar

Welp, having that many teams ranked is one reason the SEC and B!G have gone out of their way to cherry pick us to death.

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Scotty Owens's avatar

if you are so scholarly, why is your little school underwater financially? Math an issue within those hallowed halls of brilliance.?your false sense of superiority is why your little pissant conference dissolved in the first place. you are grovelling for a home...get over yourselved..Wow.

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Bowlesman 80's avatar

Bitter?

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KetamineCal's avatar

An American twist on the situation. Sigh. (Brief summary, a PhD student killed his faculty advisor. The student was from China doing grad work in the US. His advisor also did his undergrad in China but at a different school. The gun was presumably purchased in the US.)

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/acc-postpones-scheduled-meeting-to-address-expansion-in-wake-of-apparent-shooting-on-north-carolina-campus/amp/

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Charles Belden's avatar

Hate too be greedy, but if I had a choice, Big 12 and OSU, WSU along with Stanfurd. Would save a bundle on travel.

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OC Bear's avatar

some of those Varsity teams won't be going to the ACC and won't be looking for safe harbors as they will get cut/relegated to Club. The Bruins sponsor 25 sports and are making bank with the new BiG lucre. Cal has been running 30 sports and that has not been sustainable for a long time. Moreover, Edwards Field/Diamond is crumbling.

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Chris's avatar

Come to the ACC formerly know as the Atlantic Coastal Conference soon to be the ALL Coastal Conference or the APCC Atlantic Pacific Coastal Conference

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Rick Hirsch's avatar

Coast to Coast Conference -- C2C

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Bowlesman 80's avatar

Are we invited?

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BerkeleyBear's avatar

Bad news. Missed opportunity to start a new and much more competitive west coast conference. Sellout to East Coast time zone on a welfare share grovelling to be P5. Could have been a leader of something new and exciting after decades of losing. Revealing that hardly anyone in the media talks about how competitive Cal will be in actually winning in the ACC, just $$. This move just proves that Cal football is simply a vessel for $$ with no real interest in winning. The fact that they will now have to travel 3000 miles for a football/volleyball/swim meet while professing to care deeply about global warming, well so much for that argument.

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Rick Hirsch's avatar

The west coast does not have enough football powerhouses, nor enough academically highly rated schools to form a new a conference. Anent your other concern, Cal had best step up the football program's wins record because the new deal is going to be performance based. The more wins, the more dollars.

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BerkeleyBear's avatar

What in the world gives any indication that Cal is ready to step up their game in football? They've had 70 years to do that. I respectfully disagree about the other schools, they could have formed a conference with other schools at a lower $$ amount that could have been exciting, more.locally based, and that Cal and Stanford could have been leaders in. The other sports could be funded with donations and diversion from other budget items. Prostituting Cal football so that' it's pretty much guaranteed to lose so that other sports can exist, count me out on that strategy.

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OC Bear's avatar

Stanford's President made it clear that the G5 was not an option for them.

And disagree with your conclusion. If the Chancellor has not seen the light about the need for a a winning football team, she would have just agreed for Cal to move to the MWC.

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BerkeleyBear's avatar

Imo the play wasn't MWC, it was rebuild the Pac with west teams. The OSU AD had it right. ACC is more of the same 5-7 a couple minor bowl games every decade except 3000 miles away

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OC Bear's avatar

the only play was to merge with the MWC. That would avoid any penalties for MWC teams leaving, That said, rebuilding the Pac with a bunch of MWC teams just relegates the rebuilt Pac to G5 status. And the TV money would barely cover Wilcox's salary. Stanford made it clear that they were not interested in such a plan, at least for them.

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Bryan's avatar

They had called for a presidents' meeting tonight but postponed it due to an apparent on-campus shooting at UNC. We may see that meeting take place tomorrow morning.

Additionally, the new ACC headquarters in Charlotte opens this week. That would be a great opportunity to announce expansion if the votes are there.

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Ray's avatar

This would be a nice bailout plan for Cal and Stanford!

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Dave Simppi's avatar

Unfortunately, I can definitely see a future where non-revenue producing minor sports are dropped.

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sycasey's avatar

It's going to happen.

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Bowlesman 80's avatar

Or they find self-support.

But that's a lot of bake sales.

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Rick Hirsch's avatar

Where is Dean Whitter when he's needed?

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Bowlesman 80's avatar

LOL. You're aging us.

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Scotty Owens's avatar

only in California would something be allowed to be called "50% self-funding..."

you people are hysterical...50% self funding....you are either self funding or you aren't!

did your GF get a 50% abortion when she was 50% pregnant? 50% self funding...

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Bhec's avatar

Like I said, I don't know if there are any options. The leadership waited so long and then got boxed in. Seems like they never had a plan B.

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Bowlesman 80's avatar

Or this was Plan A, in the first place.

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Rick Hirsch's avatar

If tonight's motion passes, I think the ACC (C2C) needs to expand even further. It needs to fortify the west coast as well as shore up Texas. I don't know what is the optimum number in this expansion era, but looking at the map, and identifying realistic, strong target schools with "assumed availability" and academic legitimacy, I would add Oregon St. and if possible San Diego St. I'd also add Rice and Tulane to accompany SMU. This would enclose SC and UCLA plus capture the San Diego market. Oregon St. would give some Northwest presence. That would make 22, but again, I don't know what number is optimal.

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Bowlesman 80's avatar

On delay because of an active shoot on UNC campus. Tonight is cancelled; likely reschedule the next few days.

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