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Let's not have it seem like the Big Ten is some paragon of academic excellence that would be kind to accept the poor crumb eaters of Cal and Stanford. Or UW. Truth is that the BIG would be damn lucky and improved in academic reputation by adding two of the top schools in the nation. Cal as the top public school, surpassing any of the BIG, and Stanfurd as a top private. We may be a second tier football school, admittedly, but let's never hang our heads about our international reputation for being a WORLD leading university! Fiat Lux!

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As a Big Ten alum, but also someone who wrote most of his MA thesis in the Stanford Library, I'd like to remind readers that the Big Ten is unlike other conferences because it is not just an athletic conference. All the schools are members of the Big Ten Academic Alliance (BTAA). Through the alliance, the schools do cooperative purchasing and licensing, collaborate on research programs, share courses and library resources, facilitate faculty networking and offer professional development programs. Together, they do about $9.8 billion in funded research. For the faculty and students, the alliance is an important reason for being a part of the Big Ten. This is why the conference is so adamant that members belong to the AAU (Nebraska had been at the time it was admitted and Notre Dame is always the exception to the rule).

While the athletic directors may be more open to adding non-AAU members, the university presidents, chancellors and faculty senates are intensely opposed to watering down the academic quality of the alliance. Uninformed writers will often suggest that the Big Ten is interested in schools such as Miami or Florida State that are not AAU members, but these folks have no idea of how the Big Ten operates. Also the Big Ten prefers to move slowly when considering new members because it takes time to integrate schools into the Alliance as well as the athletic conference. The more schools you bring in at the same time, the more difficult it is to integrate them into the system. Of course, when they are pushed to act quickly, such as in the case of USC and UCLA or earlier with Nebraska, they can. As for the new media contracts being negotiated by the Big Ten, I suspect the contracts will include clauses regarding how the addition of more schools would be handled.

Because Stanford, Berkeley, Oregon and Washington all have important academic connections with various of the Big Ten schools, there is more of a likelihood that the Big Ten presidents and chancellors would be receptive to adding them eventually to the Alliance and the Conference. Cal and Stanford need to pursue their academic connections with Big Ten presidents to build the case to join. In the interim, the fans in Palo Alto and Berkeley should start filling up the stadiums and arenas to show that their teams do have a strong, loyal following. Outside of the above mentioned PAC-12 schools, to my knowledge the only other universities of any interest to the Big Ten are Notre Dame (of course), Virginia and North Carolina. The latter two schools were approached back when Maryland joined the Big Ten, but preferred to stay with the ACC. Don't know if they now regret their decision.

By the way, Notre Dame plays in the Big Ten Hockey league and Johns Hopkins is an affiliate member whose lacrosse teams play in the league. Also former Big Ten member, Chicago remains affiliated with the Big Ten Academic Alliance. When you see the company that the Big Ten keeps, you can figure they might eventually want Cal, Stanford, Oregon and Washington to join them. Unfortunately, the other six PAC-12 schools had better have contingency plans should this happen.

Personally, I always have wished that the Big Ten and Pac-12 would follow the lead of the Ivy League and get out of Division 1. The two conferences could have still have had their champions play against each other in the Rose Bowl at the end of the year and forget about being part of the big money NFL minor league system. Alas, that's not happening.

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